I Got a Job Offer Today, Need Negotiation Tips!

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

I wouldn't do it...

 

[Darts]

Two of my career goals for 2015 were to work on a new project and get a raise, which means switching companies. Tuesday, I got a call from a consultant about a job and today I had my interview. At the end of the interview, the manager asked me when I could start (). 20 minutes into my trip home, I got the call about being offered the job.
I'm excited about the offer but I feel an immense amount of stress over it right now. I'll list the pros and cons

CONS:
Job is a 4-6 month temp to perm position. After that, the consultant assured me that the company does hire most people. -- I'm concerned about giving up my stable job for something that might not pan out in the end.
For the 4-6 months that I'm a temp employee, I'll have no benefits -- I've never had to navigate the healthcare system on my own. I wouldn't know where to start...Obamacare? Not only that but I won't be getting any contribution to my 401K during that time. Also, even if I do get the job, I won't be eligible for 401K company contribution until 1 year into being employed
Although I want to move on, I didn't expect the opportunity to present itself so quickly. | I'm being a punk I know it...
If after the 4-6 months, it's possible that they don't make me perm | Unemployed?? No bueno


PROS:
The salary I was offered is $8K more than what I currently make
I'll be working on a cutting edge project, with a company that will look great on my resume
I could be made a permanent employee!! Once permanent, I can renegotiate for more money.
Benefits kick in upon being made permanent:
2 Weeks Vacation / Year, 5 Days Sick Days / Year, Short & Long Term Disability (Company Paid), 401K with matching contributions after 1 year, Health Insurance (Company pays 80% of coverage cost), 8 Paid Holidays
No RISK No REWARD! This could be a huge learning experience for me

I kinda feel pressured by the consultant to take the job; he wants my answer by tomorrow. They want me to put in my two weeks on Monday and I'm honestly not feeling that. Since I have a job, I feel like I'm going to push the envelope and see how bad they want me.

I've decided to play my hand and alter the original terms...First of all I'm going to tell him that I'll give him my final decision on Monday, rather then tomorrow. Then Monday, I'm going to accept the offer but only if they pay me one more dollar and give me a future 3 week start date.

I'm goin in!!! From the $1,000 to $100,000 Coli Brehs, gimme some negotiating tips!

Also I want to mention that I might have another interview within the next two weeks...

1. Take the job, based on the mindset that high reward comes with some risk in this life. Also the fact that you are getting these interviews is evidence that the economy/job market is starting to heat up and might be red hot in 4-6 months, which could give you more options. (If the other new interview/job has better benefits, fukk everything and get that lol.)

2. Explore Obamacare...I mean it was designed for situations just like this lol. You may even end up with a plan that's cheaper and fit your needs than what a company would offer. You could look into opening an IRA account for your retirement savings, which is basically the same thing as a 401k. Also the government has started a program called 'myRA', so that's possibly another option to explore.

3. Don't start flexing at this stage in terms of negotiation. Start the job and be a great, irreplaceable employee and you will gain more leverage in terms of being permanent and negotiating a higher salary/benefits .

 

[Diondon]

What's your age? fukk it I would go for it.
Negotiation really hinges on experience and qualifications
Mention that you're taking steps to be certified in that field (whatever it is) something that gives you a leg up on the competition

 

[Ms.CuriousCat]

Take the new job. Its 8k more per year. You can continue your health benefits thru COBRA...that shouldnt be a concern at all. As far as your 401k...you can contribute to your retirement out of pocket as well. You'll have to speak to the company that handles your 401k for the details.

The only concern would be the fact that you are going from a secure job into a contract one. I would take the new salary and job offer to my current employer and see if they will match/beat. If they say no, then I would hand in my notice.

At this new, temporary job...I would start looking for a new job before my contract was up. If I found a new job, I would tell this contract job that they can either hire me on as a full employee or I'll have to move on.

I definitely wouldnt go in there swinging my dikk around tho...sayin I'll let you if I want the job when I let you know...and I'll leave my current job when I wanna leave. You're making things a little difficult for no reason. Even if the agree, you might be walking into a new job having already kinda rubbed your bosses the wrong way.

This

Also money is good but think about how this move may benefit you and the part it plays in helping you achieve your long term goals and how it fits in your bigger picture.

Imo that's more important than the 8k

 

[Uncle Trill]

Erm ...Well i mean you could erm... wait so how much did you ? i mean did they?....

I think you should.... err.....

 

[Ms.CuriousCat]

Also an extra week and and extra dollar

 

[DemureNatural]

What's your age? fukk it I would go for it.
Negotiation really hinges on experience and qualifications
Mention that you're taking steps to be certified in that field (whatever it is) something that gives you a leg up on the competition

30 YO Black Female...I love hiking and romantic healthy dinners cooked by beautiful men:-)

 

[DemureNatural]

Also an extra week and and extra dollar

Wishful thinking?

 

[Allergic2Latex]

You're considering moving to a company where you won't get benefits for 6 months?
But... Lisa needs braces

 

[Diondon]

30 YO Black Female...I love hiking and romantic healthy dinners cooked by beautiful men:-)

 

[DemureNatural]

you want a tip? Suck dikk like your life depends on it. jj/p

But foreals, don't be greedy - just be glad you got a job offer... nikkas out here starving for a paycheck. Be polite and kind - and put the team first. Don't demand shyt because there are 10 other nikkas behind you willing to work damn near free

It's funny. I don't see it as being greedy, since all the risk is on me...as you said 10 other people being me waiting for a job. I see it as me making sure I have some cushion should they choose to hit me with the okie doke.
Not only that, but i'm sick of hearing 'be happy you have a job'...My current employer basically told us that...I think it's a way of mind fukking you into staying where you are, under their circumstances longer. fukk that...I know my worth

be very careful with with contract jobs. they say they'll hire you but u goto understand, things can change. u can get letgo or fired a lot easily than you would if u had a full time job. also, during holidays, u dont get paid.

I've been working on defense contracts since 2009 and you're right, they all work differently but so far, I've been fortunate to have been picked up twice and never went a day without work. I've never not been paid for hours worked, evah! My issue isn't that this position is a contract position, but a temp to permanent one.

Tough. You can put out feelers to try and increase your position at your current job by asking, within reason, for sweeter
terms. However, a couple things to consider:

1. Are you indispensable at your current job. You can hold out, spread your resume and make contacts, and wait for something full-time
that calls for you. If you aren't a huge asset, your very expression of wanting more at your current job can cause them to look at you
as "one foot out the door" and they open the Rolodex for other potential hires. Rocking the boat should only be necessary if you absolutely
need to make a career move and are willing to lose everything to gain more.

2. The 8k may not be worth the new environment. If you have been with your current place any significant length of time, switching things up
can put you in an environment where you hate going daily and you work performance will show it.

Obviously, nothing ventured, nothing gained, but if you don't have savings already, just in case you jump ship and it doesn't work out, you could
be paying for this for a couple years in debt and lost productivity. If your current situation isn't too bad, that 8k may not be worth it right this moment.

1) According to my latest performance review, yes...but our Program Manager has the "cog" philosophy...everyone is a cog and is replaceable. I know if I leave a huge knowledge bank will be gone, but overall I'm as replaceable as anyone else. They'll suffer for about a year until another person gets up to date with how things work in our lab. All that being said, I've put my feelers out there to see what's available on other projects...I know I wouldn't be so unsure if this was a permanent position...
2)You're right and those 4-6 months would be my time to show off and if I hated it, it would show LOL

 

[Ms.CuriousCat]

Wishful thinking?

It's not that, you're just rubbing people the wrong way. If you want to negotiate it has to be something important. Like negotiating on the health care. Otherwise petty stuff just makes it seem like you're not serious or not someone to be taken seriously.

 

[Warren Moon]

Two of my career goals for 2015 were to work on a new project and get a raise, which means switching companies. Tuesday, I got a call from a consultant about a job and today I had my interview. At the end of the interview, the manager asked me when I could start (). 20 minutes into my trip home, I got the call about being offered the job.
I'm excited about the offer but I feel an immense amount of stress over it right now. I'll list the pros and cons

CONS:
Job is a 4-6 month temp to perm position. After that, the consultant assured me that the company does hire most people. -- I'm concerned about giving up my stable job for something that might not pan out in the end.
For the 4-6 months that I'm a temp employee, I'll have no benefits -- I've never had to navigate the healthcare system on my own. I wouldn't know where to start...Obamacare? Not only that but I won't be getting any contribution to my 401K during that time. Also, even if I do get the job, I won't be eligible for 401K company contribution until 1 year into being employed
Although I want to move on, I didn't expect the opportunity to present itself so quickly. | I'm being a punk I know it...
If after the 4-6 months, it's possible that they don't make me perm | Unemployed?? No bueno


PROS:
The salary I was offered is $8K more than what I currently make
I'll be working on a cutting edge project, with a company that will look great on my resume
I could be made a permanent employee!! Once permanent, I can renegotiate for more money.
Benefits kick in upon being made permanent:
2 Weeks Vacation / Year, 5 Days Sick Days / Year, Short & Long Term Disability (Company Paid), 401K with matching contributions after 1 year, Health Insurance (Company pays 80% of coverage cost), 8 Paid Holidays
No RISK No REWARD! This could be a huge learning experience for me

I kinda feel pressured by the consultant to take the job; he wants my answer by tomorrow. They want me to put in my two weeks on Monday and I'm honestly not feeling that. Since I have a job, I feel like I'm going to push the envelope and see how bad they want me.

I've decided to play my hand and alter the original terms...First of all I'm going to tell him that I'll give him my final decision on Monday, rather then tomorrow. Then Monday, I'm going to accept the offer but only if they pay me one more dollar and give me a future 3 week start date.

I'm goin in!!! From the $1,000 to $100,000 Coli Brehs, gimme some negotiating tips!

Also I want to mention that I might have another interview within the next two weeks...

As an analyst for companies to save money just know they want to save 20-30k over a span of 6 months. So calculate insurance, matching 401k, salary, recruiting fee and just know they have to get 20-30k less than that. Get cool with the company so when the contract ends they want to keep u

 

[DemureNatural]

As an analyst for companies to save money just know they want to save 20-30k over a span of 6 months. So calculate insurance, matching 401k, salary, recruiting fee and just know they have to get 20-30k less than that. Get cool with the company so when the contract ends they want to keep u

How likely I'd it that should i get a perm offer that i can successfully negotiate to get a piece of that 20k? Because by then, the middle man will be cut out... theoretically there should be more money available to me personally

 

[Scientific Playa]

Need negotiation tips for a temp position? I'm really missing something here and not connecting the dots.
The rapid when can you start response was a red flag and non- professional in my opinion. They are saying you're good enough to patch a whole in their system but not good enough to be put on permanently from jump street. They are selling air castles in the sky and playing tricky mind games. Any company that doesn't value you from the start isn't worth gambling one's future on. Plus they probably work the f k out of temporary staff, let them go after the time period is up and then wash rinse and repeat the process with another mark.

Bottom line, temp jobs are modern day slavery.