Diondon
Thanks to the lawyers uh, I marbled the foyer
Jesus Christ
I got time, I'm going here today: the Post-LeBron East (2018-present)...
- Thread starter murksiderock
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That's the finals we wanted
My mind is foggy, but I'm trying to remember when all that detonte bullshyt started coming to the forefront.
All I can remember from that era was being pissed the Celtics beat the Cavs. I was mad when he left for Miami, but I totally understood
JP_614
Superstar
The magic has the Cavs number all season. I remember going to a regular season game. Bron had 40 and we still loss. Dwight had like 4 points with 22 rebounds. That spacing and the 3 ball was killing us. Hedo and Lewis.I just wish Bron would've advanced vs that Orlando squad.
Neither were super teams. It was 1 star vs 1 superstar, and Bron was the superstar.
I don't even think that series went 7 games
90% of all Lebron slander comes from Kobe and Jordan stans.
That's just objectively true.
The weak East was just one narrative among several narratives in a series of moving goal posts to find ways to criticize him.
That's just objectively true.
The weak East was just one narrative among several narratives in a series of moving goal posts to find ways to criticize him.
The God Poster
LWO representa
I’ve said I think it will be hard for Bron to not be in the spotlight as much when he retires. His stans got it worse. Lol
Ima pray for y’all
Ima pray for y’all
With all due respect, Kobe's been dead for 4 years and if his thread got unstickied from the main page of the Coliseum you'd all have a fukking conniption.I’ve said I think it will be hard for Bron to not be in the spotlight as much when he retires. His stans got it worse. Lol
Ima pray for y’all
So let's not pretend it's Lebron fans who have some vested interest in making sure their favorite player remains visible.
The God Poster
LWO representa
Yikes I hit a nerve
You comparing a thread memorializing someone’s death to @murksiderock making multiple Bron threads in the matter of 1 week because talking about teams remaining would be so bad. Murk the homie too. It’s not just the national media who won’t embrace the next gen I see
Shame on you @Remote do better
I'm not saying the thread should come down and I'm not necessarily comparing these things.Yikes I hit a nerve
You comparing a thread memorializing someone’s death to @murksiderock making multiple Bron threads in the matter of 1 week because talking about teams remaining would be so bad. Murk the homie too. It’s not just the national media who won’t embrace the next gen I see
Shame on you @Remote do better
What I am saying is that it seems silly to accuse one fan base of trying to prop up a player, when you guys are doing the same thing.
Yikes I hit a nerve
You comparing a thread memorializing someone’s death to @murksiderock making multiple Bron threads in the matter of 1 week because talking about teams remaining would be so bad. Murk the homie too. It’s not just the national media who won’t embrace the next gen I see
Shame on you @Remote do better
Not surprising it'd be Remote doing that shyt
murksiderock
Superstar
I'm talking about the remaining teams too. I'm just also talking about Bron...Yikes I hit a nerve
You comparing a thread memorializing someone’s death to @murksiderock making multiple Bron threads in the matter of 1 week because talking about teams remaining would be so bad. Murk the homie too. It’s not just the national media who won’t embrace the next gen I see
Shame on you @Remote do better
murksiderock
Superstar
2003-2018
15 years in The East, Bron went to 10 East Finals, including 8 consecutive ('11 to '18), 9 in 10 years ('09 to '18), and 10 in 12 years ('07 to '18). So for a dozen years, 12 of his 15 years there, he was pretty much a lock for The Final Four...
The East, and the entire league by proxy, was spotted his first 3 years that he was learning to be a great pro, and he lapped everyone. To this day, no one besides Russell has ever executed this kind of dominance as a #1, and I know how yall feel about Russell's era
...
LeBron in his East career, went 35-10 in total playoff series. That broke down into a 3-6 Finals record vs a 32-4 East record---->which itself broke down to 9-1 in the ECF; 10-3 in the Semis; and 13-0 in Rd1...
Why hasn't any player done this? I'm the last 26 years, why hasn't anyone else run this inferior conference to this degree?
•Chauncey Billups was a "star" in the sense he was the face of a franchise, but he was never on anyone's level. Still, he was the leader of a team that went to 5 consecutive ECFs in this period. His 13-4 (12-3 vs East teams) playoff record from 2004-08 is the closest thing comparable to Bron's 35-10 record...
•T-Wade went 22-10 in these 15 years; 19-8 vs East teams. His playoff record without LeBron in this time frame is pitiful---->homeboy was 14-2 with Bron as a teammate, undefeated vs The East (12-0), but just 8-8 without Bron, 8-7 vs The East. He definitely wasn't dominating the conference and some of you nikkas say he was better than Kobe at some point...
Just for reference in this same period of time that Wade was 8-8 without Bron, Bron was 21-8 without Wade...
•the Garnett/Pierce/Allen C's went 11-5 in 6 years, 2-2 to LeBron (2-3 including the Nets year), 10-4 vs the East. They were really good for 6 years but they weren't dominant outside of 2 years...
Pierce in particular spent his whole career out East so his East record on this frame of time was 13-9...
•Dwight was 6-6 overall, 6-5 in the East. But we know you guys value that one series his better team beat Bron's
....
•Rose was 3-5 overall...
•Paul George was 5-6 overall...
•DeRozan and Lowry were 4-5...
And Melo never even made the ECF, so that speaks for itself...
If you add up all the stars total record in that 15 years, they had a 67-41 playoff record (.620) vs Bron's 35-10; they were a combined 4-12 vs Bron, but 63-29 vs The Field...
So we've established guys in this current post-Bron East can't dominate ut even though it's the inferior conference...
Guys in Bron's 2003-2018 East were terrible vs him and weren't dominating unless they were playing with him...
And guys before him, 1998-2003, in the weakest East ever, let Jason fukking Kidd run off two Finals in the same conference and era that had Iverson and McGrady abd Allen in their primes...
Time to kill the talking point that dominating a weak conference is something you could roll out of bed doing. Nobody else did it, nobody else is doing it....
15 years in The East, Bron went to 10 East Finals, including 8 consecutive ('11 to '18), 9 in 10 years ('09 to '18), and 10 in 12 years ('07 to '18). So for a dozen years, 12 of his 15 years there, he was pretty much a lock for The Final Four...
The East, and the entire league by proxy, was spotted his first 3 years that he was learning to be a great pro, and he lapped everyone. To this day, no one besides Russell has ever executed this kind of dominance as a #1, and I know how yall feel about Russell's era
...LeBron in his East career, went 35-10 in total playoff series. That broke down into a 3-6 Finals record vs a 32-4 East record---->which itself broke down to 9-1 in the ECF; 10-3 in the Semis; and 13-0 in Rd1...
Why hasn't any player done this? I'm the last 26 years, why hasn't anyone else run this inferior conference to this degree?
•Chauncey Billups was a "star" in the sense he was the face of a franchise, but he was never on anyone's level. Still, he was the leader of a team that went to 5 consecutive ECFs in this period. His 13-4 (12-3 vs East teams) playoff record from 2004-08 is the closest thing comparable to Bron's 35-10 record...
•T-Wade went 22-10 in these 15 years; 19-8 vs East teams. His playoff record without LeBron in this time frame is pitiful---->homeboy was 14-2 with Bron as a teammate, undefeated vs The East (12-0), but just 8-8 without Bron, 8-7 vs The East. He definitely wasn't dominating the conference and some of you nikkas say he was better than Kobe at some point...
Just for reference in this same period of time that Wade was 8-8 without Bron, Bron was 21-8 without Wade...
•the Garnett/Pierce/Allen C's went 11-5 in 6 years, 2-2 to LeBron (2-3 including the Nets year), 10-4 vs the East. They were really good for 6 years but they weren't dominant outside of 2 years...
Pierce in particular spent his whole career out East so his East record on this frame of time was 13-9...
•Dwight was 6-6 overall, 6-5 in the East. But we know you guys value that one series his better team beat Bron's
....•Rose was 3-5 overall...
•Paul George was 5-6 overall...
•DeRozan and Lowry were 4-5...
And Melo never even made the ECF, so that speaks for itself...
If you add up all the stars total record in that 15 years, they had a 67-41 playoff record (.620) vs Bron's 35-10; they were a combined 4-12 vs Bron, but 63-29 vs The Field...
So we've established guys in this current post-Bron East can't dominate ut even though it's the inferior conference...
Guys in Bron's 2003-2018 East were terrible vs him and weren't dominating unless they were playing with him...
And guys before him, 1998-2003, in the weakest East ever, let Jason fukking Kidd run off two Finals in the same conference and era that had Iverson and McGrady abd Allen in their primes...
Time to kill the talking point that dominating a weak conference is something you could roll out of bed doing. Nobody else did it, nobody else is doing it....
AND BRON WAS ON SUPER TEAMS
Devil Plisken…CMS
Veteran
The Lakers were pretty much the only team that existed out West in The 80s..Magic went to The Finals 9 times. Beat on a lot of teams without a top 75 guy for the most part. Nobody made a big deal about the shyt
We’ve lost our perspective as a society
We’ve lost our perspective as a society
Because they're the reason we call it the "weak ass East"
