I guess the Bucs made the wrong pick..

[Supa]

Mariota is elite in the redzone with protecting the ball, light years ahead of Jameis. at the excuses "bu bu but he has a better running game and an easier schedule" yadda yadda yadda. Bottom line is that Mariota is playing better than Jameis. Statistically and situationally. You making up all these shyt ass excuses, breh just acknowledge the truth. Mariota is making elite football decisions, statistically & situationally Jameis is mediocre. He's not a bust he's just average.

How many redzone INT's does Jameis have?

Mariota is 3rd in fumbles, 1st in lost fumbles but I guess you'll ignore that . He was 4th in fumbles, 1st in lost fumbles last year in 12 games . When you add in fumbles Jameis has 30 total career turnovers to Mariota's 28. Jameis has played in 4 more games though

They were on the 23 so I guess you're right about the redzone and his elite ball security

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Jameis is the blk Andrew Luck. Don't know if thats good or bad

 

[Supa]

Mariota missed like 6 games with injury last year tho, had he stayed healthy he prob would have had way better numbers...

Can't we just appreciate both

He missed 4 games.

 

[AVXL]

How many redzone INT's does Jameis have?

Mariota is 3rd in fumbles, 1st in lost fumbles but I guess you'll ignore that . He was 4th in fumbles, 1st in lost fumbles last year in 12 games . When you add in fumbles Jameis has 30 total career turnovers to Mariota's 28. Jameis has played in 4 more games though

They were on the 23 so I guess you're right about the redzone and his elite ball security

Why are you talking career totals?

Mariota is the better QB now and has outplayed Jameis. Even with you frantically searching the internet to find stats to support what you're saying, at best you can only make the case that's he's not that bad in comparison to Mariota. Give it up breh Mariota > Jameis, it's ok

 

[LinusCaldwell]

The thing is also Mariota hasn't been able to free himself from the play calling. Titans are pretty predictable and he's still been able to excel while being handcuffed

 

[Supa]

Why are you talking career totals?

Mariota is the better QB now and has outplayed Jameis. Even with you frantically searching the internet to find stats to support what you're saying, at best you can only make the case that's he's not that bad in comparison to Mariota. Give it up breh Mariota > Jameis, it's ok

You didn't answer my question. How many redzone INT's does Jameis have?

I'm bringing up career totals because you and others who praise Mariota ignore the fact that he turns the ball over just as much. For some strange reason Jameis can't escape that stigma

They're basically even at this point but if Murray, Henry, Walker, and Wright missed the majority of games and Jamies had all his weapons healthy I'm guessing Mariota's numbers would be negatively effected. He'd have less TD's, less passing yards, lower completion percentage, and lower efficiency. Jameis' numbers would be better accross the board. If you're unbiased and don't have an agenda this is obvious.

 

[ProfessorXavier]

Jameis is the blk Andrew Luck. Don't know if thats good or bad

Nah he's Eli imo

Can't wait until the peak

 

[ProfessorXavier]

Why are you talking career totals?

Mariota is the better QB now and has outplayed Jameis. Even with you frantically searching the internet to find stats to support what you're saying, at best you can only make the case that's he's not that bad in comparison to Mariota. Give it up breh Mariota > Jameis, it's ok

That Titans Line is just

They ride for the kid Marcus

 

[ProfessorXavier]

They're both good. But a lot of the coli did count out Mariota from the start and it's starting to look funny in the light

That draft thread

 

[AVXL]

You didn't answer my question. How many redzone INT's does Jameis have?

I'm bringing up career totals because you and others who praise Mariota ignore the fact that he turns the ball over just as much. For some strange reason Jameis can't escape that stigma

They're basically even at this point but if Murray, Henry, Walker, and Wright missed the majority of games and Jamies had all his weapons healthy I'm guessing Mariota's numbers would be negatively effected. He'd have less TD's, less passing yards, lower completion percentage, and lower efficiency. Jameis' numbers would be better accross the board. If you're unbiased and don't have an agenda this is obvious.

Mariota has more yards passing, more TD passes and a better completion percentage than Jameis in the redzone. True they both have not thrown a red zone INT, but again Mariota has outperformed Jameis (LIKE IVE BEEN SAYING THIS WHOLE THREAD). If you didn't have an agenda you could see that.

 

[AVXL]

Say dumb shyt brehs. Winston has 27 TD's and 1 INT in two years-no picks this year.

So what you saying

Jameis has put up comparable numbers with one weapon and no line. Meanwhile Mariota has had an elite rushing attack and line.

Ya nikkas continue to amaze me with your stupidity.

Jameis has not played up to the level of Mariota. Statistically and situationally I don't understand why you can't see it

 

[Champ_KW]

I never understood the lack of nuance when discussing QB play. It's literally 10 other people on offense with the QB. To dismiss a QB's surrounding talent is a very juvenile way of looking at things. Nobody in here would trade Walker for Brate. Or Murray for Quiz Rodgers, Sims, Barber....or whoever they called up from the practice squad that week. All these advanced stats being thrown around, I dare any of you pull up those offensive line grades on the season. They're on two different teams. Different circumstances.

 

[AVXL]

I never understood the lack of nuance when discussing QB play. It's literally 10 other people on offense with the QB. To dismiss a QB's surrounding talent is a very juvenile way of looking at things. Nobody in here would trade Walker for Brate. Or Murray for Quiz Rodgers, Sims, Barber....or whoever they called up from the practice squad that week. All these advanced stats being thrown around, I dare any of you pull up those offensive line grades on the season. They're on two different teams. Different circumstances.

No two team will ever have completely identical situations doe...are you suggesting we never compare QBs because the talent surrounding those QBs is different?

 

[Supa]

First you said:

Mariota is elite in the redzone with protecting the ball, light years ahead of Jameis.

Then you said:

True they both have not thrown a red zone INT.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

First you said:


Then you said:

Is it oochi wally wally or is it one mic

Also have to factor he's played 1 less game. There is a td and 25 yard difference between the two in the red zone. So its not that glaring of a difference.