I HATE Hipsters!!!!!!!!!

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I left Brooklyn in 2005. I was already starting to see the initial surge of hipsters into Bushwick. They were starting to stay on the L train past Bedford Ave and Lorimer St. Now when I go through the old hood, I barely recognize it. I really don't have a problem with the ones who come in and try to blend in. One lived next door to my wife's uncle, right across the street from Bushwick HS, and he was cool; when I went up to NY one time I visited my wife's uncle and son came out on the stoop like "Yo, Freddie, we're playing dominoes again tonight, right? I got cold Coronas!"

However, I hold a special hatred for the ones like this broad who come in and try to change the culture and way things have been done for decades like they running thangs.

Sorry for the long read; this spoke to me cause this was right near where I grew up, and I know the stores in question... :damn:

EAST WILLIAMSBURG — When Caprice Esser starts her work day each morning, the freelance hairstylist feels inundated by a cacophony of salsa and merengue tunes that rise up from two record shops on her Moore Street block.

"They play music out on the sidewalk ... the stores are so close to each other that I have to hear both at the same time," Esser, 31, lamented about the beats pulsing outside San German Records and Johnny Albino Music Center. "It's seven days a week, eight hours a day."

Esser — who just moved to the street last May — has placed constant 311 calls and spoke up at a Williamsburg Community Board 1 meeting this month with her complaint.

"It's a violation," she claimed of the sounds. "I'd be happy if they would just turn it down to a reasonable level."

According to the city's administrative legal code, speakers or any "sound reproduction device" are prohibited from being placed outside a business without a permit.

"No person shall operate...any sound reproduction device, for commercial or business advertising purposes or for the purpose of attracting attention to any performance, show, sale or display of merchandise," the law reads.

In addition to the speaker prohibition, the city'sNoise Code calls for a general limit for a commercial establishment's noise level to "42 decibels as measured from inside nearby residences (not as loud as a normal conversation level would be inside the residences)."

But owners of the shops — both nearly 50-year-old family businesses that serve the Puerto Rican community and other longtime Latino residents in the neighborhood — insisted they have done nothing wrong and that they never received complaints until a recent batch of new young people started arriving on the street.

"How would you feel if somebody came to your block and started telling you what to do?" exclaimed Jesse Millan, 38, owner of San German Records whose father opened the business in 1967 after moving to New York from Puerto Rico. "It's quiet now. We used to have two speakers and now we just have one."

Millan said his shop — the third-oldest Latin record store in the city, he claimed — had not gotten a noise ticket since he became owner 14 years ago, and that new residents should respect the history of the block.

"It's like the Christopher Columbus syndrome, you move somewhere and forget anyone was there before you," Millan said in his shop one recent afternoon. "Now cops have to come down all the time because she [Esser] always calls 311 so they have to ... but they haven't given me any tickets."

But on Nov. 16 (the day after DNAinfo.com visited his shop and called the city's Department of Environmental Protection to question the speakers' legality) the city issued a summons, a DEP spokeswoman said.

"A notice of violation was issued...for operating any sound reproductive equipment for commercial business or business advertising purposes or for attracting attention to any sale or display of merchandise," she said, citing section 24-244(b) of the city's Noise Code.

The penalty, she said, was up to $700 in fines.

Millan claimed he had been unaware of the law prohibiting outdoor speakers.

"I was under the impression you could have speakers 3 feet to your property line at a certain decibel level," he said.

He maintained that the 46-year-old speaker was intrinsic to the block's identity, much like the neighboring Moore Street Market with dozens of local produce and food vendors.

"There are generations of people who come to this community to obtain food, music and other goods directly tied to their Puerto Rican culture," he said. "The people who decide to join our community should consider that this has been a Puerto Rican community for over 75 years and it's not the community that needs to adjust to them but the opposite."

Across the street from San German the owner of Johnny Albino Records also defended his broadcast of CD tunes on the sidewalk.

"Eighty percent of what I sell is what I play," said Manny Rivera, 43, whose father also opened his shop 47 years ago. "If I have to turn my speakers off I think I'll go out of business," he said, noting that the decline in CD sales due to online music downloads had already wounded his family business.

Rivera said he had turned down the music but that it can be difficult to monitor the noise level since some CDs play more loudly than others.

Rivera claimed he did not believe he was breaking the law, and that new residents should have been prepared for the music on the block.

"I asked them, 'Did you hear the music?' They said yes, and I said 'What did you think you were going to change?'" Rivera claimed of his conversations with new neighbors who had complained about the noise. "It's just like if you rent an apartment with a Chinese restaurant underneath it — you're going to smell soy sauce."

Williamsburg Councilwoman Diana Reyna's Chief of Staff Antonio Reynoso said the speaker debate has existed for years, but he emphasized the music's importance for the local Latino community.

"I know it's illegal...I don't condone it," he said of the outdoor speakers. "But I understand the businesses' perspective...The culture and identity of that block was defined by stores like those."

Reynoso also said he feared that the loss of the speakers would harm the street's character.

"You have to be very aware of the community you're moving into," he said of new residents, and claimed that the loss of the street's traditional culture "starts with the music being turned down."

Reyna declined to comment about the controversy.

Meanwhile, Esser maintained that the stores were operating unfairly.

"It may be a part of the culture but it's also a violation," she said of the noise level. "It's a law, and if they're not going to abide by the laws, what about everybody else?"

I got my 1st apartment on cook& flushing right after high school right across the street from the bushwick houses back in 05'

Literally overnight I saw cac hipsters move in droves. It got unbearable so I left and moved back to the Stuy only to find they strong armed that shyt too
 

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no offense but afro punk culture seems like a homo sexual safe haven. :yeshrug: :patrice: :stopitslime: :usure:

It's just one of the ways punk breaks down along specific lines, like queercore or riot grrrl. Seems kinda cool, someday I'll go to the music festival they have in Brooklyn.
 

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Thank goodness these chumps are aren't common in the Bronx.

Trust me they're coming and they're everywhere. My grandparents live in Hillside queens right next to Jamaica and Everytime I visit I see another cac jogging or walking their dog. Hillside is mostly Punjabs so I was surprised
 

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The worst offenders. Ran into a chick in Midtown Detroit that tried to tell me what Detroit was really like....i was like "listen heifer, :ufdup: just cuz you bought a fix-me-up on Ashland don't mean you know the hood. One block of fukked up don't validate you. You don't know this culture, this world, these people. You don't know the oppressive laws because they never applied to you ect. ect."

An older white dude came up to me and was like :obama: and said "i lived off 6 Mile my whole life and i'll NEVER know what its really like, and I don't pretend to either i'm glad you said that".

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You can eat whatever you want in moderation. But do't deny your girl trying to give you a good habit just because hipsters do it. That's illogical.
I almost got in to a fit with a white boy that yelled "seven mile" while he was wearing skinny jeans up at o.u.
 

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I got my 1st apartment on cook& flushing right after high school right across the street from the bushwick houses back in 05'

Literally overnight I saw cac hipsters move in droves. It got unbearable so I left and moved back to the Stuy only to find they strong armed that shyt too

My n1gga.... :myman: Bushwick Houses was where I grew up.... Went to PS 257 right across the street. Last time I was up top, I drove by the old hood. Saw a white girl jogging by the projects like everything was sweet. :dwillhuh: I saw that they even switching the old Red Market up on Moore Street. EVerything is changing. :to:
 

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My n1gga.... :myman: Bushwick Houses was where I grew up.... Went to PS 257 right across the street. Last time I was up top, I drove by the old hood. Saw a white girl jogging by the projects like everything was sweet. :dwillhuh: I saw that they even switching the old Red Market up on Moore Street. EVerything is changing. :to:

shyt is crazy man....it really hurts my soul.....i guess this is how the italians felt when black people came to canarsie
 

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i remember wearing glasses in hs the type hipsters wear now and gettin ridiculed and laughed at, screw hipsters, screw vintage, screw some corny bike, flannel, some gay ass beard, they all got tha robin thicke haircut now as well

I got myself some Warby Parker glasses, these (https://www.warbyparker.com/eyeglasses/men/beckett/revolver-black-matte) in black. If there's one thing I can commend hipsters on, it's the thick glasses. shyt's so much better than the metal frames.
 

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SHE UPGRADED

first chick id smash, 2nd id have a conversation with....even though they are both air heads.

1st chick dresses like a high school student tho.
:ld: but my thing is, why give the 2nd girl more respect/a real convo when you already KNOW she just as dumb as the other broad? just cuz she rockin some thrift store jawns?

shyt like that is what be gassin these hoes to thinkin that hipster fashion make em more special

i treat em the same :camby: shyt i'd prolly smut out/dog the hipster one worst just for thinkin a wardrobe change would raise her status, i hate when people think they gettin away with somethin by makin petty changes like that
 

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i remember wearing glasses in hs the type hipsters wear now and gettin ridiculed and laughed at, screw hipsters, screw vintage, screw some corny bike, flannel, some gay ass beard, they all got tha robin thicke haircut now as well
dawg i had a homie that was on that Fonzworth steez all the way back during G-unit/Dipset days :huhldup: he was legit about that fashion life but of course he had to beat a lot more nikkas the fukk up cuz they would try him on the regular, i done seen dude turn the fukk up on some wannabe thugs while rockin a fukkin bowtie and some suspenders in a parkin lot, straight beasted on one of them nikkas and had the whole club like :wtf::damn::wow::whew:

it's socially acceptable to dress like that now but you had to be cut from a completely different cloth to dress crazy back then, dawg was easily the most turnt up/:pacspit: down for whatever nikka i ever met in my life :pachaha:

now those same nikkas rockin shyt he was wearin over 10 years ago :snoop: and dont got half the heart he had, i can't respect the trend hopping
 
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:ld: but my thing is, why give the 2nd girl more respect/a real convo when you already KNOW she just as dumb as the other broad? just cuz she rockin some thrift store jawns?

shyt like that is what be gassin these hoes to thinkin that hipster fashion make em more special

i treat em the same :camby: shyt i'd prolly smut out/dog the hipster one worst just for thinkin a wardrobe change would raise her status, i hate when people think they gettin away with somethin by makin petty changes like that


Ur right they should be treated the same. I'm used to dating hood rats all thru high school so people tend to treat girls ur not used too w/ a bit more respect.

Id definitely be more inclined to hang out in public with the first chick.
 

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Ur right they should be treated the same. I'm used to dating hood rats all thru high school so people tend to treat girls ur not used too w/ a bit more respect.

Id definitely be more inclined to hang out in public with the first chick.
atleast yall got more high quality hipster hoes up in toronto, atleast 5 out of every 10 actually do the shyt they talkin about to some degree

down south hipsters are just :flabbynsick: status most of the time :beli:we got the lowest tier down here :smhcraig: that's why i got a way shorter patience with em :camby:
 
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