“I have never heard of a country that developed on AID” 👀

[PatCake]

Are you Rwandan? This is a lie.

South Africa’s soldiers are in DR Congo at the request of the Congolese government under a SADC peacekeeping mission, separate from the UN peacekeeping exercise.

There are no South African soldiers serving in Burundi.

I'm South African. The South African ambassador to DRC lives 4 blocks down my street breh. I grew up with him I braai with him
We spent years in Burundi.
We've been involved in instigating the Civil war in DRC to help keep the western countries' interest in DRC.

What'yu talking about there's thousands on soldiers who go to DRC on 'special missions' and come back richer than ever!

I love my country but SA's been US' sock puppet for a while now

 

[CoryMack]

Aid is given in exchange of something
Korea, Japan, and to an extent Israel received aid in exchange for letting their countries basically become U.S military outposts
Not sure that makes sense for a lot of African countries so the U.S will require raw materials and natural resources which disincentivizes other forms of development and is prone to corruption

it would make as much sense for any african nation to sign a similar agreement such as japan and s korea signed. except it wasn't and isn't in europe's plans for africa to make any substantial improvements. there's a video of a white man giving a lecture on why the rest of the world needs africa to stay undeveloped.

 

[CoryMack]

We've been involved in instigating the Civil war in DRC to help keep the western countries' interest in DRC.

what do you mean

 

[Secure Da Bag]

@Secure Da Bag - a short word on Japan

Did you know that if Japanese economists listened to Western experts/aid advisors in the late 40s/50s, Japan’s export economy would just be rice, fish, and toys? Maybe some silver too.

I recommend you check out ‘Governing the Market’ by Robert Wade, about how state directed capitalism caused Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan to become prosperous.

I see your "Governing the Market" and raise you "Prince of Yen" if anyone wants to see the one time communism worked.

 

[#BOTHSIDES]

Yall running the bootstraps argument remix?

@Secure Da Bag - a short word on Japan

Did you know that if Japanese economists listened to Western experts/aid advisors in the late 40s/50s, Japan’s export economy would just be rice, fish, and toys? Maybe some silver too.

I recommend you check out ‘Governing the Market’ by Robert Wade, about how state directed capitalism caused Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan to become prosperous.

Part of my MA was in developmental economics. I’m aware. Someone else in this thread already mentioned Europe. Japan is a not so straightforward story.

It’s not necessarily the strings attached which are THE problem. It’s what the aid is being used for which slows down African development.

A significant proportion of Western aid to Africa is used for budgetary support and military assistance. However, Africans will tell you that their biggest hurdles in development come in the form of weak or non existent physical infrastructure like modernized freight railways, power plants, ports etc. Western aid stopped funding infrastructure projects in the 1970s.

A prime example is electricity. You cannot industrialize without a big base power supply and multiple grid systems set up using a mix of renewable and non-renewable energy. Outside of private investment and state owned investment from China and Russia, Africans are in need of that sort of capital. Western aid will fund a health clinic (not a terrible thing) but won’t fund construction of the power plants to ensure that clinic has power.

Two great posts @Nkrumah Was Right

 

[karim]

Funny that they are interviewing Paul Kagame, because up until at least 2023, 40% of Rwandas budget was based on budget support aka development aid.

 

[PatCake]

what do you mean

DRC people are powerless and have been supressed by those mining thr Countries minerals for free!

The people want to own their land and their mines.
They use the divide and conquer method to keep rebel groups up and running, if people don't come together to agree on something they'll keep mining.

DRC is the richest country in Africa in terms of minerals but everyone is suffering but the higher ups.
Nobody wants those mining companies there!

If the people come together and properly revolt against it, they'll have to leave.

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

I see your "Governing the Market" and raise you "Prince of Yen" if anyone wants to see the one time communism worked.

I’ll check it out. Thanks!

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

I'm South African. The South African ambassador to DRC lives 4 blocks down my street breh. I grew up with him I braai with him
We spent years in Burundi.
We've been involved in instigating the Civil war in DRC to help keep the western countries' interest in DRC.

What'yu talking about there's thousands on soldiers who go to DRC on 'special missions' and come back richer than ever!

I love my country but SA's been US' sock puppet for a while now

If there are South African soldiers in Burundi, how many are serving there right now? I’m curious.

Describe to us how RSA is instigating conflict in DRC and why Rwanda is correct, please.

The same RSA that’s part of the BRICS, facing sanctions from Trump over Afrikaners, and is pursuing Israel at the ICJ is an American “sock puppet”?