OP... that was... just... one of the greatest reads in Internet history... 
I have to Admit, Kanye West is the Total Package
- Thread starter Walt
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Cerebral Labyrinth
All Star
Uppin - this should never leave the front page.
Walt is the epitome of greatness.
Walt is the epitome of greatness.
Dead End
Rican B*stard
LOL, good stuff
The_King_of_Everything
Yeah.
Kanye is necessary evil 
Basically what you're saying is he's the truth.
And thats why I like ye.....
He's what all these lil nikka's want to be and he doesn't even want to be what he is, but what he is is success.
And if he's not successful he feels like a failure, he can't go back to being hood, and he doesn't fit in the that true upper tier of High class white folk. Him and Jay stuck in that black man purgatory too rich for hell and this "heaven" on earth is for white people only.
They never truly belong, can't trust anybody...
And thats why I like ye.....
He's what all these lil nikka's want to be and he doesn't even want to be what he is, but what he is is success.
And if he's not successful he feels like a failure, he can't go back to being hood, and he doesn't fit in the that true upper tier of High class white folk. Him and Jay stuck in that black man purgatory too rich for hell and this "heaven" on earth is for white people only.
They never truly belong, can't trust anybody...
Could be the most ingeniously basic and retarded rebuttal in history. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I might have to shark this shyt for future purposes...
My girl: You no good nikka, I seen the pictures of them naked btiches in your phone, my friend saw you out at the bar making out with some random bytch, and I put a hidden camera in our bedroom and caught you fukking a bytch on tape.
Me: Basically what you're saying is I've never cheated on you.
*George Jefferson struts away from the ho*
Good lord Walt you shytted on the man. You have quite the vocabulary good sir. Keep it unfiltered and don't dumb it down for the negras
Jesus, I had to go back and re-read all of that.
still applies
still applies
TrueEpic08
Dum Shiny
I didn't think one man could do it, but he has managed to embody the absolute worst aspects of Jay-Z, Nas, Pac, Ice Cube, and Common while distilling any of their valuable qualities from the mix.
He's a diva and a demagogue, a bratty fashionista, a shameless opportunist, a convenient social critic, a man who will cum on the blouses of hampton spouses while simultaneously wifing up a beverly hills socialite who embodies whoredom in nearly all possible aspects of the word. He's the ultimate black limousine liberal, the college nikka talking in coded academic language about inequity, black self-love, black owned business, leading pointless "black out" days in front of the campus library, then joining a Fortune 500 company as soon as he graduates and marrying a white chick first chance he gets.
The leader of the meaningless new world in which complexity has been reduced to Che Guevara wearing bling, where 40's the new 30 and nonsense is the new complexity, where inchoate juvenile temper tantrums are the new grist for the mills of revolution.
A man who's mother's death is tied to the ultimate act of vanity and insecurity, who gets riled up after bumping his head on "wrong way" signs like a weak, spoiled, confused child, whose pursuit of the mother of his child was inspired by her online sextape.
He who shall speak truth to power, our great provocative, populist artist, thugging it out with the Gwyneth Paltrows of the world referring to him as her "nikka." Ghostproducers, ghostwriters, shallow lyrics that tap into the emptiness and disconnectedness of the black middle and upper middle class, cliche takes on interracial dating, consumerism, sex, and blackness that would shame the most tired slam poet. The type of black person who doesn't feel a sense of authenticity in the white or black world and feels the urge to align himself with whichever one fits his mood for the day, as he tries on philosophies, indignation, and societal outrage like one of his funky leather outfits or a pair of designer shades - what will look best this season, and to whom? As even activism and justice become just another name brand or champagne, something so bathed in capitalist ethos that it rates and resonates as a buzzword or a quip.
Our great prophet of megalomania, the attention whore who resents the trappings of attention, Mr. anti-Hamptons with his Beverly Hills family, the man who hates to be a celebrity so much that he impregnated a woman who is a celebrity for the sole sake and reason of being a celebrity. You gonna just snap my photo while I'm on my way to a shi shi lunch? Well then I'm gonna expose the prison-for-profit system! The master of substituting empty, over the top rhetoric for insightful or meaningful thoughts, buffoonish gestures for truly defiant acts. Kanye ain't a celebrity, he for the people - which is why his malformed chipmunk face was the main image he chose to project on a bunch of big ass buildings across the country, and why he's calling his album Yeezus.
And he's crack for a lot of black people, the same way Ayn Rand is for a certain lot of whites, because both appeal to a warped sense of persecution while confirming their most basic, shallow notions of how the world is and how it should be, a world in which contradictions empower rather than hinder a person's character or message.
I never thought I could find anyone in hiphop more vile and reprehensible than Puffy, but Kanye has surpassed him at this point for the simple fact that a lie disguised as the truth is always worst than an outright lie.
As seemingly one of few people on this forum who unironically loved Yeezus, this is an excellent critique of what Kanye has become ideologically.
I disagree with you calling him a lie disguised as truth, in a sense. I'm always interested in watching what Kanye does musically and in the media because he really reveals what the ideologies of the Black upper and middle classes really are and what they truly strive for within the American capitalist context. What the hell else would you call Watch the Throne? If you were to take the basic sentiment, intellectualize it, and sell it for $25 in book form, you'd be shocked at how it resembles the rhetoric of many Black "social commentators." Yeezus would, I suppose, be the verso of Watch the Throne then, substituting refined, classist arrogance for braying attempts at reading intersections of his class, race, and sexual fetishes in his personal context. The latter appeals to my aesthetic sensibilities more (especially in the way that he did it musically), and there's value in reading and examining it seriously (because even if it is "braying," the fact that it's braying and empty compared to, say, Death Grips' insanity says something about a culture, Black or otherwise, that calls what Kanye does radical and debates it ad nauseam), but in terms of Kanye's personal politics and actions, he's the equivalent of M.I.A. eating truffle fries and birthing a son into the Bronfman family while talking about her support for the LTTE and stating the obvious about governmental surveillance (full disclosure, also a musician I love listening to).
Let's also talk about the music, which seems to be some ultra-controversial thing (especially among hip-hop heads) with everyone either falling all over themselves to either praise it as the most experimental thing they've seen in a long time or as worthless garbage. Robert Christgau, in a pithy one-sentence review, expressed a sentiment that I expressed when Yeezus was released: "Sign spotted on church in the wild: Death Grips‑-Be Like Them." Not that it doesn't sound good, very, very good, even, but all Kanye did was take the styles of Death Grips, Arca, Hudson Mohawke, and Shabazz Palaces (maybe even some Killer Mike and El-P, and two of which were collaborators of his), and mollify it, giving it nice pop sheen to not make it too abrasive and incomprehensible for the average listener. That's his prerogative, but let's not be deluded about what the album actually is.
Unlike @Walt here (I'm assuming), I liked Yeezus a lot. Probably because of what it is and what it's willing to be (something that a lot of other mainstream rap albums, which trade in the same types of class and race politics on different scales, aren't even remotely willing to do). But I'm not going to look at his post and deny the truth of a large majority of it because of the aesthetic and even intellectual pleasure I get from listening to the album. It's very blatant about everything it tries to be, and some of what it tries to be reflects very badly on him and on the lazy intellectualism of Black intellectuals in general.
TrueEpic08
Dum Shiny
*Realizes that Walt posted rant two months ago... and I replied to it instinctively*
Listen to Billy Woods and read a post without looking at the date, and this is what happens.
Whatever.
Listen to Billy Woods and read a post without looking at the date, and this is what happens.
Whatever.
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