I have to admit this...Cody Rhodes sucks

[SpacelySprockets]

All black talent is Big Time, but we still gonna give them they big respect and label them that at ALL TIMES.

Hope you don’t have a problem with that



Word, other than Darius Lockhart (who I know of by proxy via he’s wrestles in my city in the same fed as my boy who’s a wrestler)

and AR Fox. I don’t think I’ve heard it any of them.

You did a really great job identifying them


Now tell the coli what is their contract and life situation like

You’re halfway there, then we can pivot complete your journey on trying to shyt on AEW

It went from "what black wrestlers are even out there for AEW to sign" to "what are their contract and life situations like before we jump the gun"
Stop Juelzing and just accept the harsh realities
You know how independent wrestlers work beloved none of these nikkas are signed to ROH, WWE, or Impact they're all free to be snatched up if AEW actually gave a fukk to do so

 

[Bryan Danielson]

It went from "what black wrestlers are even out there for AEW to sign" to "what are their contract and life situations like before we jump the gun"
Stop Juelzing and just accept the harsh realities
You know how independent wrestlers work beloved none of these nikkas are signed to ROH, WWE, or Impact they're all free to be snatched up if AEW actually gave a fukk to do so

Wait how is that juelzing Superman?

That’s a legit question, like as far a as black wrestlers...ok New Day is out there, Cedric Alexander is out there, J Gresham is out there, Black Pope is out there, Jay Lethal is out there..... just like all them other indies guys.

Yes, they ALL are out there. But can they sign, that’s another different question.


Harsh realities

I get it though, the WWE has done so much racist shyt in their 50+ years of existence that it’s only naturally to believe that “that” is the norm and standard for everyone else

 

[Reality Check]

Wait how is that juelzing Superman?

That’s a legit question, like as far a as black wrestlers...ok New Day is out there, Cedric Alexander is out there, J Gresham is out there, Black Pope is out there, Jay Lethal is out there..... just like all them other indies guys.

Yes, they ALL are out there. But can they sign, that’s another different question.


Harsh realities

I get it though, the WWE has done so much racist shyt in their 50+ years of existence that it’s only naturally to believe that “that” is the norm and standard for everyone else

Didn't New Day members just sign extensions this year? Think Cedric is AEW bound the second his contract is up so he can join his wife

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Didn't New Day members just sign extensions this year? Think Cedric is AEW bound the second his contract is up so he can join his wife

Man, I don’t know what these great black men and women’s contract situation looks like.

I don’t know what they aspirations are either, niccas act like AEW are like SLAVEOWNERS and if they want you, they gonna have you Or if they don’t have you then they racist


That “all or nothing” logic with no nuance or even facts to make their cases

 

[SpacelySprockets]

Wait how is that juelzing Superman?

That’s a legit question, like as far a as black wrestlers...ok New Day is out there, Cedric Alexander is out there, J Gresham is out there, Black Pope is out there, Jay Lethal is out there..... just like all them other indies guys.

Yes, they ALL are out there. But can they sign, that’s another different question.


Harsh realities

I get it though, the WWE has done so much racist shyt in their 50+ years of existence that it’s only naturally to believe that “that” is the norm and standard for everyone else

Yes, the people that I named can sign. I specifically didn't name any people who are held up by contracts with the exception of Chris Bey who JUST signed with Impact after AEW sat on their hands with him.

 

[supertrekker]

Even in his prime he was a mid card ROH talent at best.

 

[supertrekker]

I think just want him to have a gimmick. Like give me a reason to invest in him besides the fact he secured the deal and made all this happen

Before HHH was the boss, he got over with 4 distinct gimmicks

Blue Blood HHH (95)
DX HHH (97-99)
"My time is now" HHH (99-01)
"Evolution" HHH (2003-05)

HHH put in the work to transition to the "authority figure" character

None of Cody's gimmicks gave him any real moments in WWE.

HHH never got over with the Blue Blood gimmick. His DX work was his best. Evolution had Ric Flair who is a legend and Bautista and Orton got over better than he did. He was the leader but he wasn't the biggest star.

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

The black guy who got signed via a predominantly white tag team and pinned the world champ in a tag match? That's not a solo entity

nikkas gave u a butter biscuit and youre satisfied, for as shytty as WWE is with handling black talent and their underlying racism, they at least give black people jobs and that has never been an issue with them, they may not utilize them to their fullest extent but they at least hire them... so it actually says a whole lot when a company as shytty and racist as WWE looks way more diverse and progressive than you do when it comes to hiring black talent especially when youre supposed to be the progressive one, look on NXT and youre liable to see Keith Lee, Lio Rush, Swerve, Velveteen Dream, look on AEW and the most youll see weekly is Scorpio Sky because he has two cacs as partners and maybe on a good week you'll see Private Party if they aren't rotting on Dark

Nobody said anything about making a black world champion off of the rip, im saying hire more black male wrestlers period who are signed as solo entities but yall still stuck on "bbbut private party and 1/3rd of SCU", "bbbut the tag team wrestlers beat Jericho and the Bucks back in October!!!!"... AEW has been around long enough at this point to where they can sign a new white wrestler every other week but it takes time for them to sign more black people

nikka, what's a "solo entity?"

Again, 5 months into this experiment.

It went from, "they don't have any Black wrestlers"

to "no Black wrestlers are prominent"

to "No solo Black entities are prominent".

What the fukk?

Scorpio Sky is the star in SCU, everybody knows that.

1 of those dude barely even wrestles.

There's a reason that Scorpio Sky was the first person in AEW to pin the World Champion Jericho, and it's not because he's not respected by the company.

He even main evented Dynamite the next week to face Jericho again. This time as a "solo Black entity"

When's the last time a "solo Black entity" main evented Raw?

Like I said, you dumb nikkaz just take some hoe ass Tariq Nasheed "butter biscuits" jargon and run with it.

Nobody's saying they can't improve on it.

I'm saying that for 5 months in, you're dealing with a company with a Black woman as it's CBO in the front office

You've had 2 tag team champs, one of them had a Black man PROMINENTLY featured who pinned the world champ & main evented Dynamite

You've had an Asian & a Native American be the only 2 women's champs.

Is it perfect?

No.

Is it better than any other MAJOR company has EVER DONE in such a short time span?

Yes.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

nikka, what's a "solo entity?"

Again, 5 months into this experiment.

It went from, "they don't have any Black wrestlers"

to "no Black wrestlers are prominent"

to "No solo Black entities are prominent".

What the fukk?

Scorpio Sky is the star in SCU, everybody knows that.

1 of those dude barely even wrestles.

There's a reason that Scorpio Sky was the first person in AEW to pin the World Champion Jericho, and it's not because he's not respected by the company.

He even main evented Dynamite the next week to face Jericho again. This time as a "solo Black entity"

When's the last time a "solo Black entity" main evented Raw?

Like I said, you dumb nikkaz just take some hoe ass Tariq Nasheed "butter biscuits" jargon and run with it.

Nobody's saying they can't improve on it.

I'm saying that for 5 months in, you're dealing with a company with a Black woman as it's CBO in the front office

You've had 2 tag team champs, one of them had a Black man PROMINENTLY featured who pinned the world champ & main evented Dynamite

You've had an Asian & a Native American be the only 2 women's champs.

Is it perfect?

No.

Is it better than any other MAJOR company has EVER DONE in such a short time span?

Yes.

These coli E saving any other Fed haters/trolls really don’t care about black wrestlers.


They be having circumstantial fake outrage


If they did care, they would be supporting and stanning guys like Moose, Jay Lethal, J Gresham, Dezmond Xavier and would’ve protected AR Fox at all cost

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

These coli E saving any other Fed haters/trolls really don’t care about black wrestlers.


They be having circumstantial fake outrage


If they did care, they would be supporting and stanning guys like Moose, Jay Lethal, J Gresham, Dezmond Xavier and would’ve protected AR Fox at all cost

Exactly.

nikkaz talking about a "solo Black entity"

 

[SpacelySprockets]

nikka, what's a "solo entity?"

Again, 5 months into this experiment.

It went from, "they don't have any Black wrestlers"

to "no Black wrestlers are prominent"

to "No solo Black entities are prominent".

What the fukk?

Scorpio Sky is the star in SCU, everybody knows that.

1 of those dude barely even wrestles.

There's a reason that Scorpio Sky was the first person in AEW to pin the World Champion Jericho, and it's not because he's not respected by the company.

He even main evented Dynamite the next week to face Jericho again. This time as a "solo Black entity"

When's the last time a "solo Black entity" main evented Raw?

Like I said, you dumb nikkaz just take some hoe ass Tariq Nasheed "butter biscuits" jargon and run with it.

Nobody's saying they can't improve on it.

I'm saying that for 5 months in, you're dealing with a company with a Black woman as it's CBO in the front office

You've had 2 tag team champs, one of them had a Black man PROMINENTLY featured who pinned the world champ & main evented Dynamite

You've had an Asian & a Native American be the only 2 women's champs.

Is it perfect?

No.

Is it better than any other MAJOR company has EVER DONE in such a short time span?

Yes.

For an alleged black man you sure are offended at me wanting to see more representation in a so-called progressive company but okay I'll entertain your goalpost moving and playing dumb.

A black solo entity is somebody who gets signed by the company as a singles star and not as a part of a tag team therefore Private Party and SCU don't qualify, Sonny Kiss qualifies. I hope that mathematical equation is simple enough for your stupid ass to understand.

When AEW first did their round of signings and announcements the complaints were "they don't have any singles black wrestlers signed outside of Sonny Kiss" and way back then y'all nikkas was screaming "bbbbut Scorpio Sky" and "bbbbut give them more time" and you're still screaming the same shyt a year later because they don't have shyt else to show for it outside of Private Party who is an afterthought of tag team reduced to AEW Dark half of the time and not even on their current tag team rankings.

The reason Scorpio Sky is the main star in SCU is because his other partners are fukking 50 years old so he's kind of there by default. You nikkas keep bringing up him pinning Jericho back in October and having ONE singles match against him for the title despite the fact that he hasn't done shyt since. And let's for your sake say Scorpio Sky actually was a prominent singles wrestler in AEW, that's STILL only one nikka out of a sea of cacs on their roster. It's still not enough especially in comparison to other companies so please shut the fukk up about Scorpio Sky. He's ONE token black male who gets consistent TV time and you dumbass nikkas think I'm supposed to sit there and be satisfied with that, shut the fukk up.

The fact that you even bring up WWE's treatment of black wrestlers as a measuring stick to show how good AEW treats black wrestlers in comparison(which you are completely wrong about) says a lot. I haven't watched RAW consistently in a minute but I'm pretty sure Bobby Lashley and Ricochet have main evented fairly often, granted Ricochet is in a bit of a crossroads at the moment he did have his time. Street Profits who are a fully black tag team and Montez Ford have main evented and gone head to head against one of their biggest stars. And that's not to justify WWE's treatment of black wrestlers because that is a whole other issue, but it says a lot when they look more progressive in comparison to AEW. A company with a black woman as the CFO(the ONLY black staff member btw) whos only CFO because she's Cody's wife and hasn't done shyt to give black wrestlers a platform doesn't mean a thing to me.

"Is it better than any other MAJOR company has EVER DONE in such a short time span?

Yes."

Cap and bullshyt, Ron Killings is the second ever TNA World Champion. I truly don't give a shyt that they have had Japanese and Native American womens champs, Japanese people are not short of proper representation in wrestling by any means. I am talking about BLACK male wrestlers. Like I fukking said, what the fukk is Scorpio Sky main eventing one time 5 months ago in comparison to seeing Keith Lee, Lio Rush, Velveteen Dream, and Swerve Scott in prominent positions on a weekly basis?

 

[SpacelySprockets]

These coli E saving any other Fed haters/trolls really don’t care about black wrestlers.


They be having circumstantial fake outrage


If they did care, they would be supporting and stanning guys like Moose, Jay Lethal, J Gresham, Dezmond Xavier and would’ve protected AR Fox at all cost

nikka what Everybody with a criticism about AEW isn't a stooge or troll. I'm simply a black wrestling fan who wants our people to be treated fairly in ALL companies, this just happens to be a thread about Cody and AEW and AEW happens to claim to be the progressive company. I don't even fukk with WWE like that and literally only follow them to see what Bianca and Montez are up to and I stopped watching NXT after how they booked her against Rhea and Charlotte because that black people can only go so far in comparison to their white counterparts in that company.

I'm literally begging AEW to give me a reason to invest so that I don't need to follow WWE for black representation, I WANT to see them do good and make the right decisions. Me watching black wrestlers get the shyt end of the stick in WWE is exactly why I would have expected a company like AEW to offer that platform and show they are different and they have completely ignored that and therefore they aren't exempt from criticism about it just like WWE isn't. I don't give a fukk if they've only been on TV for 5 months when these nikkas sign somebody new every week, Cody always has a list of wrestlers he wants to sign and none of them are ever black.

I literally named a bunch of black wrestlers that I support who I would have liked AEW to sign I didn't know if I didn't stan a specific group of people per your requirements that it made me not actually care, good to know though. Ironically enough, I fukk with everybody you named with the exception of Moose who is a woman beating Tessa Blanchard apologist, so please miss me with the bullshyt.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

nikka what Everybody with a criticism about AEW isn't a stooge or troll. I'm simply a black wrestling fan who wants our people to be treated fairly in ALL companies, this just happens to be a thread about Cody and AEW and AEW happens to claim to be the progressive company. I don't even fukk with WWE like that and literally only follow them to see what Bianca and Montez are up to and I stopped watching NXT after how they booked her against Rhea and Charlotte because that black people can only go so far in comparison to their white counterparts in that company.

I'm literally begging AEW to give me a reason to invest so that I don't need to follow WWE for black representation, I WANT to see them do good and make the right decisions. Me watching black wrestlers get the shyt end of the stick in WWE is exactly why I would have expected a company like AEW to offer that platform and show they are different and they have completely ignored that and therefore they aren't exempt from criticism about it just like WWE isn't. I don't give a fukk if they've only been on TV for 5 months when these nikkas sign somebody new every week, Cody always has a list of wrestlers he wants to sign and none of them are ever black.

I literally named a bunch of black wrestlers that I support who I would have liked AEW to sign I didn't know if I didn't stan a specific group of people per your requirements that it made me not actually care, good to know though. Ironically enough, I fukk with everybody you named with the exception of Moose who is a woman beating Tessa Blanchard apologist, so please miss me with the bullshyt.

Dude


Did I say specifically AEW?


I don’t think I said that, YOU PROJECTED THAT.

I like CLEARLY and LITERALLY said “ANY NONE E FED”

Some of y’all be sooooo defensive toward the E y’all not even reading shyt properly


Here’s the thing, it’s not even about AEW with some of folks criticisms. It’s more about hating/trolling the next big threat to the E or closest competition.

Cuz prime example, I know for a fact say that NWA Power and AEW where to switch places and POWER was the current big darling. Niccas would be having these same conversations about that.

Niccas did it to Impact back in the day, they did it to ROH, some tried it with Lucha Underground, some occasionally try it with NJPW (around G1 and WK)

I feel you that maybe not everyone is a troll or stooge, but when generally some of the same posters in here been doing the same shyt over the last few years to whatever company is the darling of the moment.... at some point you have to call a spade a spade

 

[SpacelySprockets]

Dude


Did I say specifically AEW?


I don’t think I said that, YOU PROJECTED THAT.

I like CLEARLY and LITERALLY said “ANY NONE E FED”

Some of y’all be sooooo defensive toward the E y’all not even reading shyt properly


Here’s the thing, it’s not even about AEW with some of folks criticisms. It’s more about hating/trolling the next big threat to the E or closest competition.

Cuz prime example, I know for a fact say that NWA Power and AEW where to switch places and POWER was the current big darling. Niccas would be having these same conversations about that.

Niccas did it to Impact back in the day, they did it to ROH, some tried it with Lucha Underground, some occasionally try it with NJPW (around G1 and WK)

I feel you that maybe not everyone is a troll or stooge, but when generally some of the same posters in here been doing the same shyt over the last few years to whatever company is the darling of the moment.... at some point you have to call a spade a spade

Any other fed/AEW nikka same difference.. your point was that I'm a WWE stooge and you doubled down on it with your "so defensive about the E that y'all not properly reading" comment

Sure this forum has their fair share of annoying pro-WWE troll stooges but you responded to someone who responded to me and made that point clearly directing it about me.

You know damn well you don't recognize me from doing any WWE stooging whether it be in recent times or over the years, I am on record shytting on this company more than any other company. I legitimately don't fukk with that company like that, but because EYE made a point that criticized a "non-E fed" that in this particular case happened to be AEW(their lack of black wrestlers in particular) it prompted you to mention stooges and trolls, so who is the one projecting again?

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Any other fed/AEW nikka same difference.. your point was that I'm a WWE stooge and you doubled down on it with your "so defensive about the E that y'all not properly reading" comment

Sure this forum has their fair share of annoying pro-WWE troll stooges but you responded to someone who responded to me and made that point clearly directing it about me.

You know damn well you don't recognize me from doing any WWE stooging whether it be in recent times or over the years, I am on record shytting on this company more than any other company. I legitimately don't fukk with that company like that, but because EYE made a point that criticized a "non-E fed" that in this particular case happened to be AEW(their lack of black wrestlers in particular) it prompted you to mention stooges and trolls, so who is the one projecting again?

I’m gonna be honest with you chief.....

the person I responded to, I was responding to him based off a few things he said specifically in “his” post. It was never about you

I was just responding to him on the GENERAL.

I don’t even think I properly was even following y’all conversation (now you gonna make me go back) I genuinely just saw his post

I guess this answers my question on why you feel like I’m attacking you specifically because until you brought that up, I had legitimately absolutely no idea on what your issue was.

Do what you do, I just still in general find it weird how some people (again not saying YOU) love to always find ways to negatively crush every other company not affiliated with the E (again not saying AEW, I mean ANY COMPANY) but then give all the fukked up evils of the WWE a pass or look the other way