i hope nikkas aint forgot about Cam Newton

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How did ATL fall from 13-3 to 4-12.

How did Denver go from a mediocre 8-8 team to Superbowl favorite?

Just because? Because they either LOST or ACQUIRED talent. Talent matters in this league. Nobody is winning off sheer will alone. Cut that shyt out.
Nobody is saying a team has to be perfect to win, but you get better talent = you get better as a team. Teams add talent without compromising other parts of their team all the time. Seattle did it, the Broncos did it. nikkas in here making no fukking sense.

Breh you put it perfectly, but watch breh still argue with you for no reason. :snoop:


Some people just like to argue when there's no point.
 

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Breh. You can tell he not ready. That's ok. It's his first year in the playoffs. Y'all will say the whole NC team suck before y'all point the finger at the leader of the team though. LOL.

- Dude couldn't fathom a pocket escape for nothing in the world though he saw the o-line switch up and how hard they started coming down on him.
- Threw a crucial interception of what was a game changing drive.
- Took wayyyyyyyy too much clock time trying to be super QB for a drive that amounted to no points, but a punt. * minute drive in the 3rd quarter wen they were down.

If that was any other QB, nikkas would be going ham.


Staff and better coaching/better D. They lack on receivers though with a not so great quarterback. Do you watch them? What perfect team do you personally know of? Please list one, I can tell you where they lack.

So the fact that they got better talent didn't have shyt to do with it? You are trying to tell me they would be just as good on D with 2 trash corners, as they are with Sherman and Browner? Stop it.

Seattle got better, because they got better talent. They were able to get better on D (by adding talented players) while still keeping their offense in tact It's not about having NO weaknesses, it's about fixing obvious problems with your team. If you are not getting better you're getting worse.
 

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Cam is bettern then Kaep. You didn't see 49ers fan being like "If we had Cam this would be a for sure win" did you? Did you see any Saints players saying "If we had Carolina's D, we'd have won" Even though Cam is undoubtedly better and your defense is undoubtedly better? Y'all some sore losers lol It's really pathetic.

Teams with less win all the time..... Hope y'all don't even make it back out the season next year. Then we can see those excuses too. :wow:
So your point is talent doesn't win games? :ehh:
 

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The interception on his final drive looked like the 49ers jumped offside so I assumed it was a freeplay but of course the refs didn't call it.
fukking excuses. And this happened right after y'all got the BS roughing the passer call that basically gave Carolina a new set of downs when they were about to be like 3 and 18.

Imagine if the 49ers used that as an excuse to let Carolina score? nikkas lost and Cam got his feewins hurt. So what.
How did ATL fall from 13-3 to 4-12.

How did Denver go from a mediocre 8-8 team to Superbowl favorite?
1. Lost a crucial receiver. Closes things up for other receivers. Matt Ryan ain't that great, so shyt gets real. Probably some purposeful losing their as well.

2. Uhhhhh, a revived Peyton Manning + A Prime Wes Welker to loosen up that O?

Do y'all nikkas watch the games. :damn:

So your point is talent doesn't win games? :ehh:
Where did I say it didn't? Every team is lacking talent though. it's not a viable excuse as to why a team loss though because wvery team is lacking something.

Couldn't every team now use better talent at certain spots? According to y'all, no team should be winning anything since they are lacking in some places. That doesn't make any sense.
 

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So the fact that they got better talent didn't have shyt to do with it? You are trying to tell me they would be just as good on D with 2 trash corners, as they are with Sherman and Browner? Stop it.

Seattle got better, because they got better talent. They were able to get better on D (by adding talented players) while still keeping their offense in tact It's not about having NO weaknesses, it's about fixing obvious problems with your team. If you are not getting better you're getting worse.
What talent did Seattle gain from 2012 to 2013?

@DaChampIsHere are you a Birds fan?
Who are the Birds?

If that's the Falcons, I absolutely abhor them.
 

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fukking excuses. And this happened right after y'all got the BS roughing the passer call that basically gave Carolina a new set of downs when they were about to be like 3 and 18.

Imagine if the 49ers used that as an excuse to let Carolina score? nikkas lost and Cam got his feewins hurt. So what.

1. Lost a crucial receiver. Closes things up for other receivers. Matt Ryan ain't that great, so shyt gets real. Probably some purposeful losing their as well.

2. Uhhhhh, a revived Peyton Manning + A Prime Wes Welker to loosen up that O?

Do y'all nikkas watch the games. :damn:


Where did I say it didn't? Every team is lacking talent though. it's not a viable excuse as to why a team loss though because wvery team is lacking something.

Could every team now use better talent at certain spots? According to y'all, no team should be winning anything since they are lacking in some places. That doesn't make any sense.
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WTF are you talking about? :mjlol:
 

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fukking excuses. And this happened right after y'all got the BS roughing the passer call that basically gave Carolina a new set of downs when they were about to be like 3 and 18.

Imagine if the 49ers used that as an excuse to let Carolina score? nikkas lost and Cam got his feewins hurt. So what.

1. Lost a crucial receiver. Closes things up for other receivers. Matt Ryan ain't that great, so shyt gets real. Probably some purposeful losing their as well.

2. Uhhhhh, a revived Peyton Manning + A Prime Wes Welker to loosen up that O?

Do y'all nikkas watch the games. :damn:

So in ATL's case, Lack of talent made them a worse team
And in Den's case, the addition of talent made them a better team
You realize that right there just blew up the entire point you are trying to make in this thread don't you?
You get better talent, you get better as a team. If Carolina had better talent in their receiving core, they would be better as a team. You up in here looking stupid as hell talking about "well no team is perfect..", as if talent disparity doesn't matter at all and teams don't get better by adding better players every year.
 

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What talent did Seattle gain from 2012 to 2013?
Why 2012? Seattle was a good team in 2012 and they're still good. Why use that as the cutoff point?

How did they go from a bad team to a good team, is the question. Answer: The talent on their field got better. That's how all teams get better.
 

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So in ATL's case, Lack of talent made them a worse team
And in Den's case, the addition of talent made them a better team
You realize that right there just blew up the entire point you are trying to make in this thread don't you?
You get better talent, you get better as a team. If Carolina had better talent in their receiving core, they would be better as a team. You up in here looking stupid as hell talking about "well no team is perfect..", as if talent disparity doesn't matter at all and teams don't get better by adding better players every year.

Even 49ers fans and NFL experts said they was going to be a better team this time around against Carolina because of the return of Michael Crabtree and Aldon Smith.
 

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So in ATL's case, Lack of talent made them a worse team
And in Den's case, the addition of talent made them a better team
You realize that right there just blew up the entire point you are trying to make in this thread don't you?
Yes, but you all will claim Cam is so great. if you admit that Cam is a Matt Ryan quality player and not the great quarterback that you are playing him as then you will have a point.

So what is it? Is he great or just a fraud like Ryan?
IMO, Peyton doesn't necessarily have any great WRs he's throwing too either.
 

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Atlanta had things that went wrong. They lost their best red zone player in Turner and replaced him with someone who isn't that good in the redzone.
The OL lost vets for young guys who suck.
We lost our only very good defensive player and replaced him with someone solid.
Our CB's were too young.
Julio got hurt and that was the end of our chapter.
 
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