I just found the goat site..http://talkaboutmarriage.com/coping-infidelity/

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black folks have a consierably lower marriage rate than white folks. u know this. and why are u focusing on just marriage. cheating is cheatin, weather it be in marriage or just a relationship. i think ur puttin too much onus on just white folks when all races cheat just the same
A white woman's honor is in question?

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No, all races do not cheat "just the same" fukk outta here with this nonsense. You have cold hard data staring you in the face that shows white women are involved in the highest divorce rates, and now you on some "Well cheating is cheating". Using logic, you should be able to extrapolate that maybe, just maybe a higher percentage of white women are cheating because of all the failed marriages they are involved in.
 

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this proves wrong that mostly fine/attractive/video vixen/model/athlete chasin/celebrity groupies are the only time or most likely to cheat females. Some of yall think that the if a female is avegae lookin, God fearin, religious, strong family backround, the she is less likely to cheat. Fucc outta here with that shhyt. U think the byytches on the above site are all some supermodel dimes walkin around? Hell nah. Females cheat, it doesnt matter what demographic, race, nationality, socio-economic class, "happily married" it doesnt matter. A cheating byytch doesnt have a color. Some of yall dudes need to wake the hell up.

I have been with females that have had longtime boyfriends and even husbands and i didnt even know they were married. These females had dudes at home thinkin they had this sweet, innocent female, that would never cheat, but i was knockin the bottom out that thang at my crib and in my car. and it was with black chiks & white chicks.

So this notion that "good girls dont cheat is a Gat damm myth and a lie

this is true hoever wifing a known cheater or hoodrat or former stripper etc. will most likely lead to getting cheated on by say soemone without those tendencies but even then it could happen.

it doens't matter if your wife is a fat and fugly, here is a true story, one of my good friends his brother found out his wife was cheating on him, this woman is straight UGLY AS HELL, got fat after the two kids, while my friend's brother is nearly 40 but looks like hes 30, has his own company goes to the gym and all that, so anyways this fat slore was always going out with her girlfriends late at night, why do i now this you ask? cuz my friend came to me knowing my expertise in catching women in the act of behaving like strumpets asked me, i told him that she is most likely cheating, to install a keylogger and also buy a usb recorder and slide it under her carseat and activate it before she goes out:ehh:. So he did and :whew: oh boy found out his fat ass ugly wife was cheating, making out in her car with some guy, giving him a blowjob, saying that she loved him, and she's going to leave her husband and family for him:laugh:.

now this was a fat ugly ass woman with two kids that if you met her you thought she was the good ol wife but nope, luckily for him he got over it, still gotta pay that child support and vaginamony though but hes out clubbing, partying enjoying that life.

it doesnt matter what color, her weight, how many kids she has for you, if she goes to church, if shes a stay at home mom, if you live in the middle of nowhere, if shes 21 or 54, if youve been married 2 years or 15, if she was in a busive relationship and you saved her, if she was broke and homeless and you saved her it doesn't matter :wow:
 

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the weird thing is with affairs and cheating women do not follow hypergamy, you can be in shape, have money, have a good sex game, be faithful and all that and your wife will smash the pool cleaner making 5 bucks a hour and fall into the fog and leave her marriage and children and run off with him.

the affair fog is a very very dark and dangerous thrilling exciting place where a woman will leave everything and anything and not turn back until she is out of the fog.


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A white woman's honor is in question?

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Ronnie Lott to save the day!

No, all races do not cheat "just the same" fukk outta here with this nonsense. You have cold hard data staring you in the face that shows white women are involved in the highest divorce rates, and now you on some "Well cheating is cheating". Using logic, you should be able to extrapolate that maybe, just maybe a higher percentage of white women are cheating because of all the failed marriages they are involved in.

how the fucc am i savin the day when im simply bein fair. u keep putting all the focus on marriages and u arent even considering that the white man in a marriage could be the reason for the divorce. have u thought about that? What evidence do u have that all races dont cheat the same? just because a white woman is divorced it doesnt mean shes the reason.

u keep skippin over the billions of people who cheat on eachother all over the world, guys and girls alike. u keep puttin all this blame on white women and im simply sayin white men cheat, black men cheat, latinos, asian, indians etc. and it doesnt have to be in marriagee. why cant u get that concept thru your head?:mindblown:
 

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this is true hoever wifing a known cheater or hoodrat or former stripper etc. will most likely lead to getting cheated on by say soemone without those tendencies but even then it could happen.

it doens't matter if your wife is a fat and fugly, here is a true story, one of my good friends his brother found out his wife was cheating on him, this woman is straight UGLY AS HELL, got fat after the two kids, while my friend's brother is nearly 40 but looks like hes 30, has his own company goes to the gym and all that, so anyways this fat slore was always going out with her girlfriends late at night, why do i now this you ask? cuz my friend came to me knowing my expertise in catching women in the act of behaving like strumpets asked me, i told him that she is most likely cheating, to install a keylogger and also buy a usb recorder and slide it under her carseat and activate it before she goes out:ehh:. So he did and :whew: oh boy found out his fat ass ugly wife was cheating, making out in her car with some guy, giving him a blowjob, saying that she loved him, and she's going to leave her husband and family for him:laugh:.

now this was a fat ugly ass woman with two kids that if you met her you thought she was the good ol wife but nope, luckily for him he got over it, still gotta pay that child support and vaginamony though but hes out clubbing, partying enjoying that life.

it doesnt matter what color, her weight, how many kids she has for you, if she goes to church, if shes a stay at home mom, if you live in the middle of nowhere, if shes 21 or 54, if youve been married 2 years or 15, if she was in a busive relationship and you saved her, if she was broke and homeless and you saved her it doesn't matter :wow:

^^^^preach
 

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^^^^preach

if its your car and your computer nothing wrong with putting a usb recorder or using a keylogger.

im a nice guy anyone who enters my house is perfectly fine to use my computer to check their facebook or hotmail, or twitter:guilty:, go right ahead girl:birdman:
 

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]My wife and I have been married for 3 years. I am 27 and she is 23. We have a 2 1/2 yr old daughter. In December we decided to let my dad move into our home to help him straighten out his life. He is an alcoholic, and compulsive gambler.

I worked about 50 hrs a wk., and that left my wife and dad a lot of alone time. After a few months she started drinking heavily with my dad and our relationship was deteriorating. One night I went to bed and they stayed up drinking (one of many times) and I got up a few hours later and over heard my dad telling her how he loved her and wanted to "lay naked in the rain with her". I freaked out and the next day he apologized and told me how bad he felt and that it would never happen again. My wife told me he had to leave. Me, being a loving son, still wanted to save my dad. I really believed that he was sorry and that he was just drunk and that he wouldn't let it happen again. I talked to him and my wife and told them that i could forget about it because he really did need help and I didn't want to just give up on him because of it.

He stayed. About a month or so later, the same situation (I went to bed and they were up drinking) I over-heard him saying how he wants to cuddle with her and he told her he loved her and she said it back. I started throwing punches at my dad and my wife pulled me off of him. The next day we all had a talk and agreed that he had to move out. He just had to find a place to go first. After a few days of looking for a place for him I was in denial that my wife or my dad could do this to me and decided to let him stay.

Well, it is now July and I caught my wife and my dad doing the dirty. I beat the sh!t out of my dad (the ambulance took him away) and I am living at my mom's house for the time being.

I would really like to make things work with my wife because I love her dearly, but this is the most disgusting thing that I could imagine happening. We have a 2 year old daughter that I refuse to let be raised by a step father of any sort. I just don't know what to do. Any advice would be helpful.

Thank you in advance,
 

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LOL, here we go with the "black women do it too" shyt. Anytime something negative is said about any other race of people, someone has to come along with "well don't act like black women don't do it too."

But if something positive is said, "yeah, black women need to start doing this." :rudy: fukkers, we're already doing it.

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http://talkaboutmarriage.com/coping...air-another-father-my-sons-baseball-team.html

It's been two months since I discovered her batphone and all the risque and graphic texts and photos and conversations and life shattering information it contained. I was devastated that day and continue to be more devastated each passing moment. It was with a guy that she has known for years and whose son I have coached for years, alongside my son in baseball. I have to see this loser (lost his house and wife recently, and now lives at home with his mom... nice) almost every other day at practices and games, and she doesn't care. Many parents on the team know about the affair and shy away from both of them at games, but they are both there and sometimes talk to each other on the sidelines as I'm out on the field with the boys. It's heart-wrenching.

She has never apologized, shown remorse, or slowed down her escapades. In fact, now that I know about it, she seems to be more pursuing him with even more vigor and is almost flippant about it. She still lives in our house with me and our three wonderful children, although she's staked the couch as her bed now. She is a stay-at-home mom (although staying at home is no longer the right term for it). She stills sees him practically every day for lunch while the kids are in school (and I think she pays), every other evening until 11:30 and much, much later on the weekends. She suggests that since I don't like the way she's acting (as it's not very becoming of a married mother of three) and have so much trouble with it, I should leave. Until I discovered what was happening, she was loving and caring and thoughtful and I thought she was perfect. We have a great house in a great neighborhood, with great neighbors, friends, and family. A truly wonderful life, or so I thought. She had mentioned that she felt we were drifting apart and she felt more like a roommate the past year or so, but we were still doing things together, going away on trips together, having sex regularly, etc. Typical 17 year marriage stuff, but nothing "newlywed hot". I do regret not paying more attention to her and doting on her more, but life with three kids and lots of activities and work got in the way sometimes. That doesn't excuse my inattentiveness, but it doesn't give her justification for tearing our world apart either.

I have told her that I'm willing to try to forgive her past transgressions and work on restoring our marriage to something even better than it ever was, however, she is determined to continue her affair and has threatened divorce multiple times because she knows that is not what I want for our family. Every time I confront her with my frustration on how she's treating me with such venom and hatred that is far from justified, and so far from her normal behavior, she leaves the house and doesn't return for hours, if at all, stating that I'm crazy and I'm not handling this well (first time dealing with infidelity, so I haven't had lots of experience fortunately). Several of my friends have seen her sitting in parking lots all over town, sometimes with him in the car, sometimes by herself... texting, of course. When they do get together in the evenings and weekends, I'm pretty sure it's in parking lots behind local office buildings. Quite the parking lot romance. She is so addicted to the affair, it is text book.

Her mother, her sister, several of her friends, and my family (with whom she was very close) no longer talk to her and she claims that if people don't support her pursuing her happiness after she's spent the past 17 years making everyone else happy, then she doesn't need them in her life any more. She was very family oriented before all this. This new her is so different and so vulgar and so cruel. It's sad.

I have met with a lawyer and he's informed me that I can't kick her out, I can't change the locks, I have to maintain status quo (although I don't have to pay for hotel rooms or lunch for her boyfriend, but it's tough to stop those particular charges on the credit card if she's allowed to use it for day-to-day stuff as usual). It's beyond frustrating though that she can have her cake and can eat it too. I've tried outright ignoring her; she gets pissed at me and claims I have no respect for her. I've tried pouring out my heart, but she says that there is no way I should love her after what's she's done and she could never love me after that. In fact, she says she has no love for me now at all, only hatred, and that the only thing I have over her boyfriend is money and a job. I think I could add many other things to that list, but I don't think that will get me anywhere.

Anyone had any success with 180 or any other strategy when their spouse was so filled with hatred as soon as their affair was exposed? I still do love her, although I haven't told her that for a few weeks, and I do want to try everything possible before throwing in the towel. I think my family deserves that I make every possible attempt at salvaging something that I cherished so much before giving up. Any thoughts, suggestions, or ideas would be so appreciated. Thanks everyone.
 

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I'll leave this here, I found this on :hamster: best advice I ever got into the insights of women.

You either love women or understand them, you can't do both..
Once you take the red pill, there's no going back.


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You basically have said everything I'm feeling. Quit reading my mind nicca...


But yeah, honestly I'm not going to lie. When I was younger I was a hopeless romantic (simp) I use to write poems to girls I liked in middle school ( ACTUAL POEMS bruhs, not know "roses are red" shhit) and all of that. My father both schooled me on the game as well as let me experience for myself what it was like. He always tells me now that he use to HATE to think of the day I'd get my heart broken and become cynical towards women because I was always such a caring boy. But he explained to me then and now, that women aren't really looking for "feelings" as opposed to "security". Women want a man who is sure of themselves, confident, and willing to live without them. Women NEED to know that they are expendable in any given relationship. If your woman is your everything and she KNOWS this from the jump, then she has the advantage. Which means she has license to do any and everything she wants, including disrespect you, talk down to you, fukk over you,etc.

"A woman looks at a man the way a man looks at money" My Father always taught me. "A man will spend his entire life chasing dollars because Dollars equal a better life, a better car, a better house. But when they get enough of it then it becomes disposable, they lose respect for it, for what it took to accumulate it." This is why you see Floyd Mayweather burning $100 dollar bills at the club. Why you see T-Pain rocking a chain that says nothing but "BIG ASS CHAIN" in diamonds. Why you see Jay-Z and Kanye West tearing up $200,000 plus luxury cars in videos. What it took to gain that wealth has been trivialized, it's in abundance and therefore it has become disposable.

Women are the same way. A woman will spend half her time searching for the "right man" a man who respects her, loves her, listens to her, is attentive, romantic, etc. A man who truly loves her and supports her equal a better life, better house, a better car. But when that man is truly and unconditionally open to her and they get enough of it, then he becomes disposable, she loses respect for him, for what it took emotionally to forge that connection and openness. The "mystery" of him is no more. This is why you see women who constantly chase after "thug *****s". This is why you hear about wives fukking thier husbands friends, associates, coworkers. This is why you have music videos with Rhianna glorifying unstable relationships full of arguing, drug use, and insecurity. Talking about falling in love in a "hopeless place", because in that "hopeless place" is the thrill of the unknown. What it takes to have a man who can provide security, comfort, open displays of affection, and love has been trivialized, it is in abundance and therefore has become disposable.


Even as a married man I still, and forever will, see my wife as a woman first. I'm as open with her as I've been with any woman however, she knows that she is NOT irreplaceable. I will dump her just as quickly as I would have before we were married and have made this quite clear. Before we were married I broe up with her before and just cold turkey stopped talking to her. She knows that as a man I've been taught and raised that I need NO woman to define my life or make me fulfilled. If she disrespects me its a wrap. If we're having a conversation or argument and she begins to speak to me in a manner unbecoming of my status as a MAN, I calmly ask her " Who the Fukk do you think your talking too?" Not like I'm Ike Turner, but like a MAN who will not be talked down too. As a RULE I make it a principle to not talk down to my wife, I treat her as an adult and a grown woman, and she WILL do the same at all times. I've told her, as well as any other woman I've dated that this is NOT a request, it is a DEMAND. My father taught me that when it comes to women never EXPECT respect. DEMAND it. I give it to her and she will give it to me.
A lot of men let puccyy dictate how they treat women, they'll put up with certain things in order to make sure they are still smashing that Ass at the end of the night. I get this, but as my father taught me, " She wants it just as much as you do." this is key. If I need to allow a woman to run roughshod over me just to get some sex then something is WRONG in this equation. If I stand my ground on an issue and it equals no sex, then that woman is probably giving up the goods on the side anyways.


I'd love to go back to the fairy tale of my youth, where girls were exotic, heavenly creatures to be admired and romanced. Where beng inspired to write a poem about a female was a thrilling gesture.Where I could dream about getting a girl to love me based upon the virtue of my character. Sadly, that world does NOT exist, and honestly it never did. The "Game" is the same as its been since the beginning of time. My father, when I was a kid, use to always watch cartoons and animated movies with us. One time we were watching Bambi, and he pointed to a scene in which grown up Bambi sees the female doe and falls in love. He's dancing around the forest all "twitterpated" and in awe of this beautiful creature. Suddenly another male aggressively shows up and begins to make off with the female. Bambi, at first confused, tries to lead off with the female, but the aggressive male buck comes between them. The female doe begins to walk off with the aggressive male buck until Bambi, coming to understanding with the way the world and nature truly is, becomes enraged and engages the Male Buck in combat. It is a thrillingly violent sequence (for a childrens movie) that ends with Bambi triumphantly subduing his adversary, his prize the right to mate and have children with the female doe. My father would watch this sequence, tell me to pay attention "Because this is a lesson I'd learn later in life" and say "that's it!" at the end of the sequence.

The point is that the female doe didn't give two flying fukks how much Bambi was in "love" with her. How much he was frolicking at the sight of her. She was perfectly happy to go mate with the aggressive male buck until Bambi wised up and fought for his right to mate. His right to sire children. His right to call himself a Buck. It was the AGRESSIVENESS that got Bambi the woman, his unwillingness to be disrespected, his DEMAND for proper loyalty. NOT his emotions.


THIS is the way of relationships. A man must never allow his emotions for a woman to be the end all and be all of the relationship. For if it is, he will NOT have his woman for long, she'll be off smashing the next male Buck.
 

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marry them former cheaters they change

I'm not sure if this should be in this side of the forum or in sex in marriage. I apologize if I posted incorrectly

Hi all. I've been married to my DH for 5 years and together with him for 7.5 years. No PAs or EAs for the both of us.

I am a former cheater. In all of my adult relationships, I either cheated on my bf's or was open about seeing other people. Once i met the dh, that all stopped. We just celebrated our 5 year anniversary and for the first time in a long time, I'm having fantasies about cheating but more of a problem is me reliving my past. I'm going back to my memories of cheating and satisfying myself to the thought of them. What I'm worried about is not me cheating, but this can't be healthy and it sure isn't fair to my H. It would hurt me to find that he was satisfying himself while thinking about previous sexual episodes.

I seem to be concentrating on previous cheating episodes. Also I am fantasizing about watching my husband being with another woman. I was willing to explore this option with my bf's in the past but it just never happened. I know this would be a deal breaker if my husband knew about this, he's firm on not introducing a 3rd party to the sex relationship. Like the cheating, it's not something I'm even considering. I just feel very guilty for fantasizing about these things.

Any former cheaters in here experience the same problems?

Former cheater having fantasies of cheating + reliving old memories
 
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