I just re listened to Urban Legend by TIP

[ISO]

Oh 50 def has 20, but I don’t think his 20 outside of his 3-4 biggest hits are fukkin with TIs 20.

Be Easy
24s
Rubber Band Man
Bezzle
Motivation
U Don’t Know Me
ASAP
Get Loose
Swagga Like Us
Live Ya Life

10 records off the top of my head that are beating everyone on that list besides Hate it or Love It and How We Do (which I think are two of his biggest hits even tho they are Game’s).

And I intentionally didn’t include any songs from his Biggest album in King.

Then once you get into some of his older features that put him on like Never Scared (Bonecrusher), Soldier, newer features like Fancy w/ Drake, Shoulder Lean, etc.

I dunno I just think TI’s catalogue is way too deep. 50 had a couple Barry Sanders like years but it was a short run, T.I. really put up that Emmitt Smith career

Window Shopper smacking a lot of those songs

Truthfully the songs I listed can go toe to toe with them T.I. songs

80M views on the low can go against any T.I. girl song


50 got 20 without getting into his mixtape I Smell p*ssy bag and all that. Tip advantage is features he was a friendlier nikka in his prime but features shouldn’t hold as much weight as ya own record.

 

[spliz]

What was more a nail of a coffin what 50 did to Ja while he still released New York and Mesmerized or what TI did to Flip?? Name me a Flip single after Urban Legend and Down with the King dropped breh

He did fukk over Flip but like I said it was a bytch made move. He dodged Luda to come at Flip for no reason and u actin like Lil Flip was on the level of a Ja Rule bruh. And u clearly don’t know the climate cause yea while Ja had an undeniable record in New York after that shyt STILL wasn’t the same for him. Ja was everywhere one day and people were clowning him live on 106 and Park literally overnight. U had to be there to understand the difference.

 

[ISO]

Nikkas sit here and cut ass on Candy Shop all day while bumping mahia hi mahia ho ho

 

[spliz]

And don’t get me wrong TIP got some solid shyt . He has a solid catalog, I even like his more underground features like Lac’s and Price’s and Crown Me. nikka also had dope features like the Slim Thug 3 Kings shyt. Soldier by Destiny’s Child etc etc. It honestly would be a dope battle if he wasn’t such a bytch made nikka and talked his way out of it.

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

He did fukk over Flip but like I said it was a bytch made move. He dodged Luda to come at Flip for no reason and u actin like Lil Flip was on the level of a Ja Rule bruh. And u clearly don’t know the climate cause yea while Ja had an undeniable record in New York after that shyt STILL wasn’t the same for him. Ja was everywhere one day and people were clowning him live on 106 and Park literally overnight. U had to be there to understand the difference.

Obviously there was a difference but wasn’t Ja kind of on his way out even a little before 50?? What he was doing wasn’t going to last that long regardless nikka was just a NY Nelly to the people

 

[spliz]

Obviously there was a difference but wasn’t Ja kind of on his way out even a little before 50?? What he was doing wasn’t going to last that long regardless nikka was just a NY Nelly to the people

Ja just came off a hit record and number 1 on 106 and Park when 50 came thru and shytted on his whole shyt. Put it like this. Mesmerized was number 1, a few weeks later. He drops another single and the audience is literally clowning this nikka live on TV and booing him. I honestly was kinda annoyed by that and I had BEEN stopped fukkin wit Ja by then. shyt was literally overnight tho and showed how much people were followers.

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

Window Shopper smacking a lot of those songs

Truthfully the songs I listed can go toe to toe with them T.I. songs

80M views on the low can go against any T.I. girl song


50 got 20 without getting into his mixtape I Smell p*ssy bag and all that. Tip advantage is features he was a friendlier nikka in his prime but features shouldn’t hold as much weight as ya own record.

TI has actually recent records people listened to .. About the Money, No Mediocre, Private Show, We Still In This bytch, Ball .. idk man you are kind of underestimating him. 50 invented the mixtape game, but TIP has some very underrated mixtapes cuts and those dissed to Flip were disrespectful damn near on the same level as them disses to Ja

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

Ja just came off a hit record and number 1 on 106 and Park when 50 came thru and shytted on his whole shyt. Put it like this. Mesmerized was number 1, a few weeks later. He drops another single and the audience is literally clowning this nikka live on TV and booing him. I honestly was kinda annoyed by that and I had BEEN stopped fukkin wit Ja by then. shyt was literally overnight tho and showed how much people were followers.

I meant Wonderful not Mesmerized my bad, that went top 5 after the 50 shyt on 04 bro .. how do you explain that?

 

[ISO]

TI’s longevity doesn’t matter as much as y’all think it’s not like Pop Bottles or No Mediocre are these show stopping round winners

 

[re'up]

It was uneven, and outside of the major singles, not much worked. Trap Muzik had a feel, and a theme, and some soul, Urban Legend, was all over the place.

Outside of U Don't Know Me, ASAP, there wasn't much I liked. Bring Em Out was hot at the time, but it doesn't really work anymore.

I would say that aside from Trap Muzik and Paper Trail his albums are all uneven, and badly dated. I haven't keep up with him as much since 2014 or so, but that album was fairly solid but post 2010 standards.

King has some great standouts, and is probably in the top 3 of T.I's albums, but still, I felt that had a lot of weaker tracks too, going to listen now.

 

[spliz]

I meant Wonderful not Mesmerized my bad, that went top 5 after the 50 shyt on 04 bro .. how do you explain that?

R Kelly. It wasn’t the same bro. Trust me. U looking at numbers and not how people were actually responding out in the streets. There was shyt people still fukked wit from Ja such as Clap Back etc etc. But Ja wasn’t THAT nikka no more. He wasn’t the go to hit maker anymore. And it took more effort for his shyt to catch on than usual.

 

[ISO]

TI has actually recent records people listened to .. About the Money, No Mediocre, Private Show, We Still In This bytch, Ball .. idk man you are kind of underestimating him. 50 invented the mixtape game, but TIP has some very underrated mixtapes cuts and those dissed to Flip were disrespectful damn near on the same level as them disses to Ja

The recent Breezy records, Fif shyt got 200M views to TI’s 45M views. Fif shyt is also the better record

 

[King Kai]

I really want to see this battle.

I think Fif takes this. GRODT has so much heat that we're talking about what, at least 8 tracks from that album alone?

Then you got the Beg for Mercy cuts.

The you got The Massacre.

Then you got the shyt he blessed Game with like How We Do or Hate It or Love it.

Then you got songs right before the fall off like I Get Money.

Then you got the soundtrack cuts like Hustler's Ambition or You Don't Know.

 

[ISO]

To keep it a buck after 2008 both TI and 50 were washed

 

[malbaker86]

It depends on whose watching.

We rocked with Let's Get Away way more than 21 Questions down here

Yep and Why You Wanna