I just re listened to Urban Legend by TIP
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my fav song on urban legend this was a pac beat for sure
Devil Plisken…CMS
Veteran
50 is/was an a$$hole
50 is from NY
This does not bode well in conversations like this. Could you imagine how these nikkaz would lose their minds over a southern equivalent who moved the units he did and had a moment like that?
We’d nevet hear the end of it
I don't understand why dudes try and argue like Verzuz is an exact science when it's down to opinions
Someone is trying to say 'My Love' is a better song than '21 Questions'
That's your opinion my dude
Unless it's Lil B vs Nas..... most of these battles can be argued either way
TI, 50 Cent, DMX, Jeezy, Nelly, Ja Rule, Ludacris....... these artists have deep enough catalogues that they can all have arguments made for and against them, its just fukking entertainment, there is no definitive answer
Someone is trying to say 'My Love' is a better song than '21 Questions'
That's your opinion my dude
Unless it's Lil B vs Nas..... most of these battles can be argued either way
TI, 50 Cent, DMX, Jeezy, Nelly, Ja Rule, Ludacris....... these artists have deep enough catalogues that they can all have arguments made for and against them, its just fukking entertainment, there is no definitive answer
murksiderock
Superstar
Mase is half right and half wrong because neither Tip nor Fif could beat Ross in a Versuz. In "hits", sure, if it was strictly about commercial popularity. Talent as an artist and quality of work, Ross shyts on both of them combined, he playing in a different space than either one of them...
A ton of 50's legacy is tied to the mixtape run that led up to Get Rich. I do personally recognize him as one of the original mixtape gods. So he has Tip there. He has Tip in peak run. He has Tip in popularity. I see the argument for 50, I'm not downplaying him...
I'm about to refamilarize myself with his work and come back later. My long held belief is I think Fif's story and explosion in popularity and The Machine are why we call Get Rich a classic, without the unbelievable level of press he was getting I'm not sure we'd have thought of it the same, but I'm not tripping when people call it a classic. But I've always said that was his only arguable classic...
I remember Massacre being good. I though Curtis was weak, and to be honest I dont think I ever listened to Before I Self Destruct. But I got Get Rich on now, I'm gonna replay his 00s resume and come back here later...
Musically Tip was more relevant in the 10s...
Overall I'll keep saying to both sides, both these nikkas in the same tier on All-Time boards, all this talk about one being way ahead of the other is misplaced. For they primary era, the 00s, both are hella relevant and neither are legit GOATs, but we can say the both in that Top 5 range of they era. This downplaying of TI as midtier in the 00s is dishonest, nikkas just gotta admit they wasnt fans and leave it at that. He was easily one of the five biggest names in the game for about a half-decade in the mid-00s, that's not "midtier nikka" shyt...
I like TI but with 90% of his features take him off the record. The record does the same
take him of Swagger like us. U still got Hov Ye & Wayne
take him off We Taking over. U still got Wayne Ross & etc..
I never was like omg did you hear that TI verse on so n so record ever
take him of Swagger like us. U still got Hov Ye & Wayne
take him off We Taking over. U still got Wayne Ross & etc..
I never was like omg did you hear that TI verse on so n so record ever
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A Tribe Called Quest ™
Make Em Say Ughh ... Silk da Shocker
Lmao this is such cap, go listen to his verse on Slaughterhouse remix with Yelawolf, his verse on We Still In This bytch, he had the 2nd best verse on We Taking Over, Hov and them were ass on Swagga Like Us TIP had the best verse wtf
I’ve listen to all them. My point stand. I never heard anyone say omg did u hear that TI verse in regards to features.
murksiderock
Superstar
Its debatable, and I'm a Face fan too. But the days of Face being the assumed South GOAT with no competition have been over for a long time now, probably going on a decade now. Ross definitely has the work to go toe-to-toe with Scarface...
To be fair, the same can be said of Fif. I never felt, and I never heard, anybody ever say "damn go listen to Fif's verse on ____ song". Neither are that kind of artist but by virtue of Tip being a better lyricist he has had more memorable features, even if they not, stop me in my tracks it's so hot, good...
oO J Smooth Oo
All Star
TIP is a far superior artist/rapper and lyricist.
murksiderock
Superstar
I've run thru Get Rich and The Massacre, Massacre really wasnt that good. Get Rich is a classic, and I'll say stronger than anything Tip dropped, which underscores 50's peak run that we know was higher. Get Rich was dope, couple of em I forgot about like Life On The Line, I don't agree with those who say it didn't age well. Still sounds fire...
Running thru Curtis now, but really Tip vs 50 boils down to whether you think Fif's peak, his mixtape run, his lyricism and artistry is greater than Tip's lyricism, artistry, peak, and the fact that cumulatively Tip was more relevant and more consistent for a longer period of time...
Running thru Curtis now, but really Tip vs 50 boils down to whether you think Fif's peak, his mixtape run, his lyricism and artistry is greater than Tip's lyricism, artistry, peak, and the fact that cumulatively Tip was more relevant and more consistent for a longer period of time...
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50 in his prime rarely did features outside of Shady & Gunit
but his work it & Magic stick verses were crazy and I guess that Big song a feature was crazy also. I really like his X feature too but that song mid
I know he have more but I can’t think of any of them
Listening to Urban Legend again it's funny that there are a couple songs on there that if released today could be taken as responses to the shyt 50 been saying like "Stand Up", "ASAP", and "U Don't Know Me".
bordeaux
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A Tribe Called Quest ™
Make Em Say Ughh ... Silk da Shocker
Life on The Line was like from 99
