I just realized that Kanye killed hiphop

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In the manner you're talking about, Lil Jon and the Yin Yang Twinz killed Hip Hop.

They proved that you don't need lyrical skill or to even be able to rap to sell records on a mass scale.

Before them, you only had DJs moving the crowd without people rapping, like DJ Kool,



or people barely rapping while other artists did it, like Uncle Luke.



(first time I heard Trick Daddy, by the way :salute:)

but those were either regional or subgenres.

then....





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Kanye created a lane for pop artists that can rap but ain't hip hop. 20 years ago they would have got the PM Dawn treatment from KRS-One, now they get a pass.
 

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I'd rather have goonery dominate black culture than fakkitry:

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I spoke on this a while back. Op is correct but not for the reasons he thinks.

I don't give a fukk how somebody dresses, Run DMC and Chuck D and those cats wore 'fitted' or what could be considered tight jeans back in the late 80's but nobody would ever consider them gay because they made hardcore music.

Kanye DID destroy hip hop in the sense that as a popular producer he introduced the whole Daft Punk rave element to the game in a major way with Stronger which became a hit. I initially supported that song but now I realize how it fukked the game up.

He also did 808s and Heartbeats or whatever which is fukking horrible to imagine a whole album full of autotune but he did that. :yeshrug:

Both of these examples are what waters down the music and makes it harder for more street level emcees to get shine. Kanye also helped break up the ROC by following Hov and promoting gay culture (remember that MTV special where he criticized Hip Hop for being homophobic)

So yeah, Kanye is a big reason why the game is corny and soft right now but it's more for the fact that his musical decisions (after Late Registration) take the genre in wack directions. :ld:
 

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Essentially didn't Soulja Boy "kill Hip Hop" with his shyt...I mean, I enjoyed Crank Dat I'm not fronting for anyone but think about that. We didn't have a consistent amount of cats stepping over boundaries till late 2011 when the game woke up. I lowkey blame Lex Luger for making the radio have the same sounding beats for the entire late 2010-early 2011 time period too. That's not to say they weren't bangers tho :win:
 

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:russ: when your sons are bringin home steve or james, or when your daughters are more manly than you are, you can look back on your posts and :snoop:
 

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Than hip-hop is dead shyt is corny. But The internet changed hip-hop forever, not only piracy but it broke down barriers between regional markets leading, leading to a merging of sounds nationally AMD globally. Hip hop lost a lot of micro markets that allowed independent artist to thrive in places like the Bay, New Orleans, Houston, Atlanta, Chicago, Ohio, etc.

Those thriving independent artist them were also isolated, so influences didn't spill over as much and each region had its own unique sounds, that's why the 90's seemed to have so much variety and creativity.

Nowadays with the internet, once a new, cool, sounds comes around, it's blows up much faster and in turn people are able to imitate it juts as fast because of home DAP software like FruityLoop or Logic. There is so much biting, and rappers crammed on the same lane, it makes rap boring and oversaturated.

Another this is the decrease of parity in hip hop as far as subgenres go, I'm blame that on suburban white fans and the rise of the black middle class. Kanye's rise was more of a symptom than a cause.
 
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