I just relistened to TPAB and..

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And here comes the goal post moving. We aren’t talking about master pieces. We’re talking about whether people are still listening to or bumping an album. The Billboard chart measures music consumption - what are people listening to, what are people streaming. It is the best measure for whether something “came and went” or nah. The album is still being streamed heavily, three years later. You said no one was bumping the album. Now you’re saying only fans are bumping it. Yet the album is still charting that high after three years tells me people in general are listening.

Stop saying dumb shyt you can’t back up. Once again, your statement was opinion. Mine was facts. The end.

To Pimp a Butterfly is not on the Billboard Top 200. GKMC and DAMN are. DAMN has already surpassed TPAB in weeks on the chart.

Kendrick Lamar | Billboard

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The poster I responded to was talking about DAMN, which he claimed no one was bumping. A claim that is untrue.
My bad :hubie:

Point still stands though, that if your projects were continuously getting better then your first wouldn't still be getting more plays. Every other rapper(artist?) with multiple records on there have them sorted more chronologically(newest record closest to the top) while GKMC is still outdoing all his other efforts :manny:
 

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My bad :hubie:

Point still stands though, that if your projects were continuously getting better then your first wouldn't still be getting more plays. Every other rapper(artist?) with multiple records on there have them sorted more chronologically(newest record closest to the top) while GKMC is still outdoing all his other efforts :manny:

I mean...GKMC was at 84 on the chart last I checked, Damn is at 100. Is that a big enough difference to warrant that hot take? Furthermore name me some other artists that can even have this discussion. GKMC has been on the Billboard 100 longer than any rap album, ever. Who else is being held to this standard? Seems like we can simply say all three albums are dope and GKMC’s impact has yet to be surpassed (by him). Doesn’t mean people aren’t feeling the rest, as DAMN’s chart spot shows.
 

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I mean...GKMC was at 84 on the chart last I checked, Damn is at 100. Is that a big enough difference to warrant that hot take? Furthermore name me some other artists that can even have this discussion. GKMC has been on the Billboard 100 longer than any rap album, ever. Who else is being held to this standard? Seems like we can simply say all three albums are dope and GKMC’s impact has yet to be surpassed (by him). Doesn’t mean people aren’t feeling the rest, as DAMN’s chart spot shows.
It's not a hot take when almost no other rapper(or artist period I think) has an older album higher than a newer album, much less 16 spots higher. If DaBaby(who has 3 albums on there) had people listening more to "his old shyt" than what he just dropped then we would all say he fell off. Drake dropped that demo mixtape that's not outdoing Scorpion and nikkas saying he fell off. So yes, everybody is held to that same standard. Like the gypsy told Andre, "you only funky as your last cut" :manny:

I agree that all 3 are dope and that's where the conversation should stop, but that goes both ways. nikkas need to stop acting like TPAB is wack and stans need to stop acting like it's his best album :ld:

All Aftermath/Interscope superstars drop a classic(ish) first record or two and slowly fall off, Kenny ain't no different. :francis:
 

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It's not a hot take when almost no other rapper(or artist period I think) has an older album higher than a newer album, much less 16 spots higher. If DaBaby(who has 3 albums on there) had people listening more to "his old shyt" than what he just dropped then we would all say he fell off. Drake dropped that demo mixtape that's not outdoing Scorpion and nikkas saying he fell off. So yes, everybody is held to that same standard. Like the gypsy told Andre, "you only funky as your last cut" :manny:

I agree that all 3 are dope and that's where the conversation should stop, but that goes both ways. nikkas need to stop acting like TPAB is wack and stans need to stop acting like it's his best album :ld:

All Aftermath/Interscope superstars drop a classic(ish) first record or two and slowly fall off, Kenny ain't no different. :francis:


I don't see how this is a logical argument. He has an album from 2012 on the charts, and an album from 2017 on the charts. How is that not a testament to popularity, and nothing else? Cole has one album on the chart, Forest Hills Drive from 2014; none of his more recent albums, including the one from 2018, are on the charts. Future has one album on the chart, his most recent. Outside of Drake, nobody has more album success on the charts in terms of long-term charting albums.

You keep saying the older album is higher but...GKMC is at 84 on the chart, DAMN is at 100. The week before, GKMC was at 93...DAMN was still at 100. The week before that, GKMC was at 94...DAMN was at 95 lmao. In what world is it bad news that an artist's first and last album (which were released 5 years apart) are virtually tied on the album charts three years after his last release? People are literally streaming both albums at the same time.
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I don't see how this is a logical argument. He has an album from 2012 on the charts, and an album from 2017 on the charts. How is that not a testament to popularity, and nothing else? Cole has one album on the chart, Forest Hills Drive from 2014; none of his more recent albums, including the one from 2018, are on the charts. Future has one album on the chart, his most recent. Outside of Drake, nobody has more album success on the charts in terms of long-term charting albums.

You keep saying the older album is higher but...GKMC is at 84 on the chart, DAMN is at 100. The week before, GKMC was at 93...DAMN was still at 100. The week before that, GKMC was at 94...DAMN was at 95 lmao. In what world is it bad news that an artist's first and last album (which were released 5 years apart) are virtually tied on the album charts three years after his last release? People are literally streaming both albums at the same time.
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:why: You missing the point breh. People are still listening to GKMC more than DAMN. If it was all about people listening to both, then it wouldn't be "both", it would be all 3 with TPAB up there too. Fact is his debut will likely end up being his magnum opus with everything afterwards being high quality but never quite reaching that peak again like countless other MCs. Nothing wrong with that, just call it what it is :manny:






I don't even know how we ended up discussing GKMC vs. DAMN on a TPAB thread but that should tell you something :pachaha:
 

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:why: You missing the point breh. People are still listening to GKMC more than DAMN. If it was all about people listening to both, then it wouldn't be "both", it would be all 3 with TPAB up there too. Fact is his debut will likely end up being his magnum opus with everything afterwards being high quality but never quite reaching that peak again like countless other MCs. Nothing wrong with that, just call it what it is :manny:






I don't even know how we ended up discussing GKMC vs. DAMN on a TPAB thread but that should tell you something :pachaha:

Meh. The albums have virtually the same placement on the chart, your point is irrelevant to me. If GKMC was at 93 and DAMN was at 150 or something sure, I'd take your point as somewhat valid. But nah. If I go back a few more weeks, DAMN is ahead. Meh.

And for the record: TPAB is his best album. :yeshrug:
 

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Where is the Money Trees? Where is the Art of Peer Pressure? Where is the FEAR? Where is the Ronald Reagan Era? Where is the Kush and Corinthians?

There's not a single song off this album that would go on a real Kendrick fan's Greatest Hits but these Interscope flunkies are hellbent on making it his best album :pachaha:


first u never get the next album n look for the songs u liked on the old album...

tpab has plenty of songs that can be on a greatist hits

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