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nikka you 5 foot 5![]()
Nah I'm 6'0"
And in a game of 21, I'll get you 21-Zip

nikka you 5 foot 5![]()

I'm 6'7Nah I'm 6'0"
And in a game of 21, I'll get you 21-Zip![]()

That gimmick ass offense in no defense Phoenix is why that play was short lived. He wasn't that great a passer. I won't even argue the ball handling thing anymore because I short changed how great a one man fastbreak he was.

Double for what? You had to try to stay with your man in the 90's. On-the-ball defense was important. You gonna double and leave a man that could actually shoot open?
Barkley is my 2nd favorite PF...Webber is my 1st. He was a beast at 6'4 (6'6)


Blake Griffin, Wes Unseld, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Joakim Noah, D-Rob, Sabonis, Gasol bros., Vlade Divac some other good options.Quit trolling these nikkas.. Barkley in PHX was DISHING that hoe better than any big not named Webber,garnett or draymond.. his handles were ELITE For his position. He was damn near point forward.
Can't imagine how beastly Charles would be in this era. Out of the all time top 5 power forwards his game translates the best. Could handle, pass, dominant rebounder and one of the most explosive athletes of all time. Statiscally he's the worst 3 point shooter ever for attempts over 700...but he would probably be better
in this era since you're encouraged to shoot them.

Can't imagine how beastly Charles would be in this era. Out of the all time top 5 power forwards his game translates the best. Could handle, pass, dominant rebounder and one of the most explosive athletes of all time. Statiscally he's the worst 3 point shooter ever for attempts over 700...but he would probably be better
in this era since you're encouraged to shoot them.
he fell in love with that 3 ball, especially as he got he older/slower
in the final matchup between chuck/MJ in the united center chuck was talkin shyt to MJ the entire game, but wasnt even trying to work on offense, just kept chucking up bad shot after bad shot![]()
Been a Suns fan since 1990 & Chuck is the best passing big man we've ever had.
He was definitely above average.Especially out of the post
But nah, I take that back.Chuck was 2nd behind Oliver Miller.That dude was one of the best passing bigs I've ever seen.
Was crazy skilled, but the weight issues did him in.I remember that crazy pass he threw to chuck vs the Blazers.(1:30)
Looks like luck, but the play was actually drawn up the exact way it was executed.Ceballos was a decoy on the lob and Chuck was supposed to wait until it bounced off the backboard.The pass had to be perfect...and it was
Oliver had a crazy feel for passing
One of the most amazing plays I can remember.
Dude was one of the best ball handlers and passers I have ever seen at the PF position. He was so good that the Bulls Johnny Bach came up with a special defense for him.
See teams would run a double at Barkley but he was great at splitting defenses. He would do the Wade move (when Wade was young) where he pushes the ball between the double team then runs and catches up to the ball then shoots or lays it up.
Barkley was the first player I ever saw do that shyt. Add to the fact he was a great passer especially out of double teams with those behind the back passes.
What the bulls would do (which I have never seen before) was send two defenders at him. Those defenders would double Barkley and actually place their arms around one another like a chain so as to not let Barkley split the double team or pass to someone out of the double.
This defense only worked in philly but once Barkley was in Phoenix this defense didn't work because they had great cutters and finishers and great 3 point shooters.
Those Phoenix teams with Barkley and the Houston team starting in 94 all the way until Hakeem left. Really are the original trend setters with making the 3 a weapon. You could not double hakeem or Barkley because of their ability to pass and split the double team. You double those dudes and they would pass to open shooters. Add to the fact that Barkley was like Lebron with liking to sit back (ISO and dribble with his back to the basket....he is the reason for the 5 count back down rule) with his back to the basket and look for the double. Then pass out the double or shoot the fade away or took it to the hole if no double came.
Barkley was pretty much unstoppable in the half court cause he could knock down mid range jumpers and handles where he could get by 3s and 4s and could lead the fast break as well. Just an all around great player.
His weakness was he didn't like to play defense. Unless you pissed him off (like the time he guarded rookie Shaq for stretches and said Shaq wasn't gonna come to Phoenix putting up godly points) or it was late in a game and his height. Barkley was only 6-6 and taller players like McHale and Elden Campbell gave him fits.
The Lakers in 93 took the suns to 5 games in the first round because of Elden Campbell height and length frustrating Barkley be forcing him to have bad shooting games.
But overall an amazing player who was fundamentally sound on the offensive end and was an amazing rebounder to be only 6-6.
Barkley, Rodman, Nate Archibald and AI are some of the most amazing players in the history of the basketball to be dominant players at their position considering their height/size.
Fixed for youBarkley was one of the best players in NBA HISTORY.
I see what you did there.Cept' for Magic![]()