OnlyInCalifornia
Southern California/Vegas
or how bragging about who's more popular but then disdain someone else success by having too many CAC fan when they are the ones buying everything
exactly homey.
I Really don't understand how Travis Scott can sell 100k first week & Thug can't
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exactly homey.
ALonelyDad
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The teens love Travis Scott, they like Thugga too but Travis is like their #1 guy..I see my cousin tweet about him all the time
Chill.......La Flame doesn't even make beats. I don't even know how he got this "producer" label.
SouljaVoy
♥ Black Love
This how wack this little dress wearing girl is .. Even his own fans won't admit they listen to him
Don't try and separate yourself from his fans,you just named seven of his songs going into detail n shyt
You a fan
I can name about 30-40 songs that could be radio hits.... know them all by heart too.
I may sound like a bytch made fan, but I kinda dont want his songs to get too big..... I like being of of the few that know his shyt by heart.
When I be in the club I'm the cool nikka who is chilling with a drink scoping hoes not moving....but when one and of his songs on come on I start literally losing my shyt. Reciting his lyrics like Bible verse.
nikkas in the club lookin at me like
Hoes lookin at me like
My own nikkas be lookin at me like
SouljaVoy
♥ Black Love
breh really could made 3 versions of his debut out of the leaks and tracks he dropped so far
i still think it was weezy that leaked em
I'm actually surprised Thug was able to bounce back and still make FIRE CLASSIC music after that leak... cause that leak was a good 3-4 mixtapes/eps...maybe 2 albums worth of music. He still adds a track or 2 from the leak to mixtapes tho.
Either way, that leak kinda hurt him a bit... but I salute thug for still able to make classic shyt.
Thug needs to get rid of Lyor Cohen tho.
Playaz Eyez
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Eminem was the only one who did a milli in the early 2000's
Drake right now is more popular than anybody in that whole decade outside Em
Everybody from 97 til somewhere around 06 were doing big numbers. After that, pretty much only the big artists were doing numbers. Hell, Memphis Bleek, Young Gunz, a resurgent Twista, and Chingy were selling a whole bunch of records. Today there's like 3-5 people doing big numbers in rap, which still might be a stretch.
ManBearPig
half man half bearpig
And how many of then were doing numbers with Drake even with all the illegal downloading that's going on today? I can add Nelly I guess too
Playaz Eyez
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Illegal downloading PLUS the new wack streaming rules counting single listens as full albums? We're getting into a whole new discussion here
its 2016 tho. Who fukks with the radio?
I havent since 2005.
(i get what u sayin tho)
More than enough people, apparently. Even if that's not so, everyone goes out to party at least.
If that wasn't the case, you wouldn't have so many people who hate an artist making threads every day about how they're tired of that artist or want that artist to fall off. Otherwise, we'd have to assume they're pressing play or opening a thread every time they see that said artist has a new song and we surely know that's not the case....
...right?
IllmaticDelta
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you can't compare physical units moved today to 10-20years ago because of streaming, downloading etc..HipHop today is much more widespread and mass consumed. repost
Why Streaming Doesn’t Really Matter For Adele
The outstanding success of Adele’s single ‘Hello’ has stoked up the already eager debate around whether Adele’s forthcoming ‘25’ album is going to be a success. Indeed some are asking whether it is going to ‘save the industry’. One of the aspects that is getting a lot of attention is whether the album is going to be held back from some or all of the streaming services. The parallels with Taylor Swift’s ‘1989’ are clear, especially because both Swift and Adele are strong album artists, which is an increasingly rare commodity these days. But the similarities do not go much further. In fact the two artists have dramatically different audience profiles which is why streaming plays a very different role for Adele than it does for Swift.
Lapsed Music Buyers Were Key To the Success Of ‘21’
Adele’s ’21’ was a stand out success, selling 30 million copies globally. Core to ‘21’s commercial success was that the album touched so many people and in doing so pulled lapsed and infrequent music buyers out of the woodwork. The question is whether the feat can be repeated? In many respects it looks a tall ask. We’re 4 years on since the launch of ‘21’ and the music world has changed. Music sales revenue (downloads and CDs) have fallen by a quarter while streaming revenues have tripled. And the problem with pulling lapsed and infrequent buyers out of the woodwork is that they have receded even further 4 years on. In fact a chunk of them are gone for good as buyers.
buyer streamer overlap
But beneath the headline numbers the picture is more nuanced (see graphic). Looking at mid-year 2015 consumer data from the US we can see that music buyers (i.e. CD buyers and download buyers) are still a largely distinct group from free streamers (excluding YouTube). While this may seem counter intuitive it is in fact evidence of the twin speed music consumer landscape that is emerging. This is why ‘Hello’ was both a streaming success (the 2nd fastest Vevo video to reach 100m views) and a sales success (the first ever song to sell a million downloads in one week in the US). These are two largely distinct groups of consumers.
Streaming A Non-Issue?
As a reader of this blog you probably live much or most of your music life digitally, but for vast swathes of the population, including many music buyers, this is simply not the case. Given that the mainstream audience was so key to ‘21’s success we can make a sensible assumption that many of these will also fall into the 27% of consumers that buy music but do not stream. The implication is thus that being on streaming really is not that big of a deal for ‘25’ one way or the other. Whereas Taylor Swift’s audience is young and streams avidly, Adele’s is not. That is not to say there aren’t young Adele fans, of course there are, but they are a far smaller portion of Adele’s fan base than Swift’s.
60% of 16-24 year olds stream while just 20% buy CDs. Compare that to 40-50 year olds where 34% stream and 43% buy CDs. These are dramatically different audiences which require dramatically different strategies. Audio streaming is unlikely to be a major factor either way for Adele, neither in terms of lost sales nor revenue. Unless of course she ‘does a Jazy-Z‘ or ‘does a U2’ and takes a big fat cheque from Apple to appear exclusively on Apple Music. But I’d like to think she’d like to think she’d have the confidence of earning sales the real way.
The Importance Of The Digitally Engaged Super Fan
What unites Swift and Adele is that they are both mass market album artists and as such are something of a historical anomaly. Swift bucked the trend by making an album targeted at Digital Natives shift more than 8 million units. Adele will likely also buck the trend. But paradoxically, considering the above data, in some ways it will be a harder task for Adele. Swift has a very tightly defined, super engaged fan base that identifies itself with her. Adele’s fanbase is more amorphous and pragmatic. You don’t get ‘Adelle-ettes’. Swift was able to mobilise her fanbase into music buying action like a presidential candidate with a passionate grassroots following and big donors. The importance of digitally engaged super fans is the secret sauce of success for digital era creators. It is the exact same dynamic that ensured UK YouTuber Joe Sugg was able to leverage his fanbase to give his debut book ‘Codename Evie’ the biggest 1st week sales for graphic novel EVER in the UK this year.
If Adele and her team do pull off a sales success with ‘25’ they will owe a debt of gratitude to that 27% of consumers. While the odds are against it being quite as big as ‘21’ (simply because the market is smaller) it still has every chance of being a milestone event that will out perform everything else. But do not mistake that for this being ‘Adele saves the music industry’. Album sales are declining. Success from Taylor Swift and Adele are (welcome) throwbacks and they are most certainly not a glimpse into the future.
Why Streaming Doesn’t Really Matter For Adele | M{2e}
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Rock music is twice as popular as pop in America – but R&B/HipHop rules streaming
Dividing US 2014 music consumption by genre in terms of streaming makes for some very interesting results: R&B/hip-hop music was the leading genre with 28.5% of all streaming consumption in the year.
Nielsen’s data takes into account streaming from AOL, Beats Music, Cricket (Muve), Google Play, Medianet, RDio, Rhapsody, Slacker, Spotify, Xbox Music and YouTube/Vevo.
Rock music was the second most popular streaming genre with 24.7% while Pop claimed 21.1%. Dance music/’EDM’ took a bigger share than any other format, with 6.8%, while Country laid claim to 6.4%.
Latin music did particularly well on streaming services, taking 5% of total consumption, compared to 1.8% of tracks and 2.4% of albums.
Christian/Gospel music took 1.6% of all streams, with Holiday/Seasonal on 1.1%. Jazz, Classical and Children’s genres all took less than 0.5% each.
Rock music is twice as popular as pop in America - but R&B rules streaming - Music Business Worldwide
Hip-hop is the most listened to genre in the world, according to Spotify analysis of 20 billion tracks
Hip-hop is the most listened to genre in the world, according Spotify analysis of 20 billion tracks
What da fukk are you talking aboutEminem was the only one who did a milli in the early 2000's
Drake right now is more popular than anybody in that whole decade outside Em
Drake is not as popular as 5
im not talking about physical units, I'm talking about fame and being big. The ovo clothing line is nowhere near as popular the G-unit/shady clothing line was. Drakes songs aren't all over movies and he has only had one number one single (with weak competition). There is no MTV or TRL anymore really to break superstars. Hotline bling and one dance are big songs don't get me wrong, but they are not as big as In Da Club, Hot in Herre, etc.
IllmaticDelta
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I agree that peak 50 was more popular than current Drake but the music itself, is more widespread now
HipHop clothing lost it's popularity when cats started dressing in a hipster way
Drake is competing with more genres or sub-genres of music than what nelly and 50 had to in the early to mid 2000s. Think about it, EDM wasn't even really mainstream back then, it was an underground phenomena but now it's a major force.
I can't even say only white people supporting Travis Scott cause on any given day you can hear any type of person bumpin his music or going to his shows. That cross dressing stuff with Thug will always hold him back cause he's obviously trolling. Some people won't take him serious enough to buy his projects. Plus the Lil Wayne Barter 6 incident I feel like some people were turned off by that. Dude just trolls too much.