Dwight was robbed because the media turned on and don't like him.
And Dwight went to the Finals.
I still can't believe ppl think Dame Lilliard is a top 75 player of eva
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Dwight was robbed because the media turned on and don't like him.
And Dwight went to the Finals.
Dwight Alex English Adrian Dantley T-Mac and Bernard King deserve to be on that list. Dantley averaged 30 points a game 4 years straight along with 7 other seasons putting up 20-29 a night. How is that not deserving of being on the top 75 list? English averaged 21 to 29 points a night 10 years running and both should have been on the OG list. But it is what it is as i knew they wouldn't take any of the old school players off who probably could go
AlbertPullhoez
The Takeover
If Dame made it then can't nobody tell me Manu and Tony didn't deserve to make it
Devil Plisken…CMS
Veteran
Tracy McGrady & Klay Thompson
fukkouttahea hahahaahah
fukkouttahea hahahaahah
Mr Hate Coffee
Veteran
Dwight only didn’t make it cuz he’s a goofball who people don’t respect.
whole list is suspect anyway. I’m better than some of those old cacs on the list.
whole list is suspect anyway. I’m better than some of those old cacs on the list.
murksiderock
Superstar
Mac gotta stronger case than Klay though. I don't get the Klay support for it, but Mac def has a case and probably shoulda made it...
McGrady overlapped careers with Reggie and Ray and somehow those nikkas made it. Nobody in real time thought those guys were better players than Tracy McGrady...
I can't justify Klay's inclusion for any reason...
WE DOING THIS AGAIN
WHEN WE ALL KNOW RUSS
IS REALLY THE ONE WHO
DOESNT BELONG DESPITE HIS ACCOLADES?
Stop trolling g, there hasn't been anywhere close to 75 Greater players than Russ in NBA history lmao...
WHAT BASKETBALL SKILLS
DOES RUSS HAVE TO CAUSE
YOU TO SAY SOMETHING SO SILLY?
HES A GREAT ATHLETE WITH
AN ENDLESS MOTOR
WHO HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO
DOMINATE THE BALL.
HES NOT A SKILLED BASKETBALL
PLAYER AT ALL AND
HAS ONE OF THE LOWEST IQS IN
NBA HISTORY.
DAME IS CLEARLY THE
BETTER PLAYER AT THEIR PEAKS.
DOES RUSS HAVE TO CAUSE
YOU TO SAY SOMETHING SO SILLY?
HES A GREAT ATHLETE WITH
AN ENDLESS MOTOR
WHO HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO
DOMINATE THE BALL.
HES NOT A SKILLED BASKETBALL
PLAYER AT ALL AND
HAS ONE OF THE LOWEST IQS IN
NBA HISTORY.
DAME IS CLEARLY THE
BETTER PLAYER AT THEIR PEAKS.
Devil Plisken…CMS
Veteran
Tracy McGrady was a talented loser and that's the fact. Make up whatever excuse you prefer. Unemployment was high the weather was bad but this guy never got out of the first round. He was a fukkin loser...that's what he did best. It is what it is. I'm always going to give the nod to a guy who was the go to option on his squad and got them to the next round over him
Lol, I’m a Spurs hater all the way but how the fukk they ain’t get on the list?
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
There are
murksiderock
Superstar
WHAT BASKETBALL SKILLS
DOES RUSS HAVE TO CAUSE
YOU TO SAY SOMETHING SO SILLY?
HES A GREAT ATHLETE WITH
AN ENDLESS MOTOR
WHO HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO
DOMINATE THE BALL.
HES NOT A SKILLED BASKETBALL
PLAYER AT ALL AND
HAS ONE OF THE LOWEST IQS IN
NBA HISTORY.
DAME IS CLEARLY THE
BETTER PLAYER AT THEIR PEAKS.
Their peaks overlapped for about three years, 2016-19. You could argue for either so essentially its a matter of preference. Westbrook actually won an MVP during their overlapping peaks, and was a Top 5 finish in the only year Dame was ('18)...
Westbrook won a scoring title and two assist titles during this stretch, which is a reminder Dame has never led The League in anything...
Russ' Thunder went out in Rd1 three years in a row, average 48 wins/year. Dame's Blazers bounced OKC one of those years but in this same span of time Blazers won 47.7 wins/year, and were out in Rd1 the other two years. We all know that '19 WCF run was lucky, it counts for Dame but it was unusual...
So basically we're talking about two players who have the same relative impact on winning, which isn't great, neither are high level winning basketball players. And we're talking about both at the absolute peaks of their games, so it's a preference in play style...
Raw stats, 2016-19 Russ was 26.8/10.6/10.4, on 433/315/766 shooting, 25.6 PER, 29.9 WS, .172 WS48. In the playoffs he was 29.8/10.9/9.5 on 384/312/824 shooting, 21.3 PER, 0.8 WS, .060 WS48....
2016-19 Dame was 26.5/4.7/6.5 on 443/366/908 shooting, 24.3 PER, 35.1 WS, .205 WS48. In the playoffs he was 25.6/4.7/5.8 on 411/350/859 shooting, 18.4 PER, 1.5 WS, .077 WS48...
Again we are talking about two guys with the same relative impact on winning. That "who has more basketball skills" thing is irrelevant when the guy with the alleged deeper skillset can't affect winning, but since you brought skills up, give me Russ still with both at the peak of their powers----->Russ' transition scoring and ability to attack the basket in the half-court are All-Time elite amongst point guards, but let me guess, these aren't skills that matter to you? Dame also never in his life has a defensive highlight, and while Peak Russ wasn't some watershed defender he was dogged and just more of a hustler with better effort on that end...
Even before he started sharking for triple doubles, Russ was an All-Time rebounding point, and his passing is more aggressive than Dame's. Neither of these guys could ever be the best player on a championship team, so I'm taking Russ with the caveat that he doesn't necessarily affect winning more than Dame, and Dame does some things better...
Russ to this point was a better player for longer, he was the second best player on a Finals team which is not something we saw from Dame when he was a #2, and you can shyt on his accolades but the accolades came because he's an All-Timer. You can keep Dame, an inefficient chucking guard who is a career negative on defense with no impact on winning besides shooting surges---->he has three worthy playoff moments in his career with more than that many faceplants, this guy is the definition of Regular Season Warrior...
I'll keep the guy with the higher motor, better all around game...
xXMASHERXx
Superstar
AND FOLKS TRIED TO SAY HE WAS BETTER THAN STEPH
Y'all said it was early in the season give him some time. Now yall are saying he's injured
Y'all said it was early in the season give him some time. Now yall are saying he's injured
DUDE IM NOT
READING ALL THAT BULLshyt
AND COULD GIVE ZERO fukkS
ABOUT RUSS MVP NOR NUMBERS.
I HAVE EYES AND WATCH GMS.
RUSS IS A STAT PADDER
WITH A HIGH MOTOR,
LOW IQ & LOW BASKETBALL SKILLS.
THERES NO WAY IN HELL
IM TAKING HIM OVER
GUYS LIKE MARK PRICE, DAME
PRE INJURY TIM HARDAWAY,
PRE INJURY PENNY,
PRE INJURY ROSE ETC
THEY WERE ALL BETTER
BASKETBALL PLAYERS.
READING ALL THAT BULLshyt
AND COULD GIVE ZERO fukkS
ABOUT RUSS MVP NOR NUMBERS.
I HAVE EYES AND WATCH GMS.
RUSS IS A STAT PADDER
WITH A HIGH MOTOR,
LOW IQ & LOW BASKETBALL SKILLS.
THERES NO WAY IN HELL
IM TAKING HIM OVER
GUYS LIKE MARK PRICE, DAME
PRE INJURY TIM HARDAWAY,
PRE INJURY PENNY,
PRE INJURY ROSE ETC
THEY WERE ALL BETTER
BASKETBALL PLAYERS.
Tenchi Ryu
Ashtray B!tch
He was over Dwight...Over T-mac...over fukking Vince Carter
That list was trash and everyone knew it then...even more so now
That list was trash and everyone knew it then...even more so now