I still can't believe Reggie Bush was a bust

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There's no players getting into the basketball HOF solely for what they did in college either. And there's no D-League players making it to the HOF either so don't know the point of bringing up arena football or the CFL

The point im making, is that there are numerous players inducted into the basketball HOF, cause of their contributions overseas, or international competition.

Damon Allen isn't getting into the HOF cause he has 70,000+ passing yards in the CFL, 4 Grey cups and 11,000 rushing yards.
 

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Drew Brees throwing the ball 650+ times a season kind of limits the amount of times they can run the ball....

of the single season passing attempts.... Drew Brees holds 4 of the top 10 spots.

The Saints haven't had a 1,000 yard back since 2006...and that's mostly due to the fact that Drew throws the ball at levels QB's in the 80's and 90's and early 2000's never did.

Kurts most pass heavy season ranks #142 all time, Joe Montana's is #211, Scott Mitchell:heh: is #63, and Peyton with Edge was #51

I don't think you were aware of just how much more Brees throws the ball compared to any of those QB's
Great post, but adjusted for era, Scott Mitchell and that run and shoot threw alot in 95...your post is accurate, but misleading..we are currently in the most pass happy era of all time..im pretty sure many current QBs avg more passes per season than a guy like Dan Fouts simply because of inflation...Peyton next to Warner and Gannon were the most padd happy in that era. Trent Green putting up enough passes to gain 4,000 yards never hindered Priest or LJ,,you dont have to be the 70s Dolphins or early 2,000 Steelers to produce as a RB,,the threat of a Great passing game should be beneficial to Bush, not a hindrance...
 

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The point im making, is that there are numerous players inducted into the basketball HOF, cause of their contributions overseas, or international competition.

Damon Allen isn't getting into the HOF cause he has 70,000+ passing yards in the CFL, 4 Grey cups and 11,000 rushing yards.

The CFL is closer to the D-League than it is the Euroleague. There is no Euroleague equivalent for the NFL to compare the two.

There is no NFL HOF, there is no NBA HOF. They're both for pro football/basketball (Basketball has had people inducted for amateur but that's mostly coaches), the difference between the two is there is no high quality league outside of the NFL like you have in the NBA with the Euroleague and because no outside of America really plays football, there are no international tournaments like with the Olympics or FIBA.
 

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Great post, but adjusted for era, Scott Mitchell and that run and shoot threw alot in 95...your post is accurate, but misleading..we are currently in the most pass happy era of all time..im pretty sure many current QBs avg more passes per season than a guy like Dan Fouts simply because of inflation...Peyton next to Warner and Gannon were the most padd happy in that era. Trent Green putting up enough passes to gain 4,000 yards never hindered Priest or LJ,,you dont have to be the 70s Dolphins or early 2,000 Steelers to produce as a RB,,the threat of a Great passing game should be beneficial to Bush, not a hindrance...

Brees has passing attempt years of 659,650,670,657,658,635,652

Rich's most attempts in a season are 618, 549,515

Kurt Warners most attempts with STL are 546,499,347

Peyton never topped 591 attempts while Edge was there.

The years Trent threw for 4,000+ he had 523,556,507

The levels that Brees throws at, has never been done before by any QB...even in this era.
 

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NYC Rebel, you know your RBS..Youre not getting enough credit for that incrediblu bold, yet accurate prediction. When virtually everyone thought Reggie Bush was the hyprid of Sayers/Sanders/Faulk, you always maintained that he wouldnt approach that level, and you were 1000 percent right. When nearly everyone though that RUN DMC was the next Eric dikkerson, you remained adamant that he was too light below the waist to become a long term effective RB. Once again, you were right. Whats up with these weak excuses being made for Bush? He didnt succeed because he was on a passing team? What? Did that stop Roger Craig, Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, Barry in 95, etc..from being successful?? He never got the chance? If he was truly a standout, he wouldnt have been platooning..
I honestly don't know what dudes are looking for when checking for these runners most times. I simply didn't see his college dominance transferring to the NFL game. Even some of the highlights, something lacked to me. Darren "no wiggle" McFadden even more so
 

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Brees has passing attempt years of 659,650,670,657,658,635,652

Rich's most attempts in a season are 618, 549,515

Kurt Warners most attempts with STL are 546,499,347

Peyton never topped 591 attempts while Edge was there.

The years Trent threw for 4,000+ he had 523,556,507

The levels that Brees throws at, has never been done before by any QB...even in this era.
I feel and respect your post..but for a so called elusive back, shouldnt less defenders be advantageous for Bush??
 

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Damn Megatron, that nikka Brees does throw alot,.doesnt he? Lol..I remember he threw it 83 times in the Alamo Bowl..
 

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Reggie had to learn to run in between the tackles in the NFL. It took him a few years but I thought when he got to Miami he became a decent RB..
 

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Reggie would have fit perfectly in a zone blocking scheme. That would have definitely been interesting.
He's not a plant one foot into ground and go runner who would succeed in that offense which requires to run between the hashes. Even with him becoming a better in between the hashes runner, he didn't have Jamal Charles type development.
 
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He's not a plant one foot into ground and go runner who would succeed in that offense which requires to run between the hashes. Even with him becoming a better in between the hashes runner, he didn't Ahkw Jamal Charles type development.
His Miami and Detroit years showed he could be that player though, so I'm inclined to believe it was the way the Saints were developing/utilizing him that was the issue. If he had gotten into that Kubiak system from the get go, he could have been taught the vision and patience he lacked, and would have been much more productive than he was in those saints years. Granted, this seems like a chicken-egg situation though. Did he become a better runner because he left the saints, or did he just coincidentally hit his developmental stride when he got into those ZBS systems.
 

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His Miami and Detroit years showed he could be that player though, so I'm inclined to believe it was the way the Saints were developing/utilizing him that was the issue. If he had gotten into that Kubiak system from the get go, he could have been taught the vision and patience he lacked, and would have been much more productive than he was in those saints years. Granted, this seems like a chicken-egg situation though. Did he become a better runner because he left the saints, or did he just coincidentally hit his developmental stride when he got into those ZBS systems.
I don't see it. In spot duty, yes...but I'm not giving Bush anymore than 3 carries a game between the hashes. He's not moving piles or is very explosive between the hashes.

He's a speciality all over the field player, which is good for today's NFL. He doesn't play in the NFL of 15 years ago
 
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