I think I figured out where Nas goes wrong sometimes

[Flav]

His production is where he goes wrong at and I ain’t trying to read that “Purchase for verses” bullshyt. Nas over dope 90s style Boom Bap beats is still a beautiful thing.

Nas should release the vocal version and let producers do their thing. Bet some dope shyt way better than his actual album gets released.

 

[classicmaterial]

its considered an album because its arguably better than most of it not all of his other albums.

your b side tapes are only considered if they sound legit and not like a bunch of tracks scattered...his shyt played out like a true album.

So you're admitting that it's only considered an album in order to act like he has more classics than he really does. Fine with me as long as we all know people are just reaching when they call it an album.

 

[Formerly known as...]

He needs to work with what worked and forget trying to be something else. He isn't a chart star, he will make his money from making Hip hop with the right producers and just tour as his fans will always come out for him. Also if you listen to Illmatic, he is just rapping and the hooks are basic. He doesn't need big hooks etc, just rap Nas and let the producer deal with everything else.

Illmatic, and Stillmatic producers were perfect for him, they gave him beats that were for NAS. We got excited when we heard Kanye was working with him but lets be real, Nas needs straight up HIP HOP producers/

 

[spliz]

So you're admitting that it's only considered an album in order to act like he has more classics than he really does. Fine with me as long as we all know people are just reaching when they call it an album.

Of The Lost Tapes ain't an album neither is Nastradamus. Both conceived damn near the same way.

 

[JayBaldacci]

GRODT is a fukkin classic only insecure nas fan can deny that

Get Rich is a more of a "commercial classic", but not for quality.

 

[Pinyapplesuckas]

So you're admitting that it's only considered an album in order to act like he has more classics than he really does. Fine with me as long as we all know people are just reaching when they call it an album.

its considered an album because it IS a classic. theres not faking..the quality and quantity is there. its an anomoly. most projects like that are throwaways...his wasnt...its not apart of some deeper narrative to sway some sort of battle like you're implying. its just a really great album that got released after he had tons of sample issues.

 

[JustCKing]

He needs to work with what worked and forget trying to be something else. He isn't a chart star, he will make his money from making Hip hop with the right producers and just tour as his fans will always come out for him. Also if you listen to Illmatic, he is just rapping and the hooks are basic. He doesn't need big hooks etc, just rap Nas and let the producer deal with everything else.

Illmatic, and Stillmatic producers were perfect for him, they gave him beats that were for NAS. We got excited when we heard Kanye was working with him but lets be real, Nas needs straight up HIP HOP producers/

L.E.S. is one of Nas's original producers, but I've seen so many Nas fans dismiss dude over the years it ain't even funny. He's given Nas countless great songs.

Then there's Q Tip, another Illmatic producer. He had one of the worst tracks on Street's Disciple, but is an otherwise great producer.

Nas fans emphasize who the producer is vs what they music actually sounds like. A Nas album produced entirely by Premo looks like a classic on paper. It doesn't mean it would actually sound like a classic even though they have a near flawless track record.

It is quite obvious at this point that Nas never went back to the original line up of producers on the same album because he set out to make a different album each time.

 

[Formerly known as...]

L.E.S. is one of Nas's original producers, but I've seen so many Nas fans dismiss dude over the years it ain't even funny. He's given Nas countless great songs.

Then there's Q Tip, another Illmatic producer. He had one of the worst tracks on Street's Disciple, but is an otherwise great producer.

Nas fans emphasize who the producer is vs what they music actually sounds like. A Nas album produced entirely by Premo looks like a classic on paper. It doesn't mean it would actually sound like a classic even though they have a near flawless track record.

It is quite obvious at this point that Nas never went back to the original line up of producers on the same album because he set out to make a different album each time.

Agree with all this.

Jay somehow can make it work with so many producers he is just unique in that sense, but I feel Nas needs to make an album with just 1 maybe 2 producers from start to finish. Not this Accapella and Kanye put beats over it shyt.

Nas needs to sit in a studio with Premo and LES. I mean even Alchemist had a few good songs on the Lost tapes album.

 

[New Jeruz Jewelz]

By that logic any Greatest Hits compilation can be considered an album.

Fact is it's not an album. It's basically one of those "Unreleased B-Sides and Rarities" compilation with some new songs like what always get put on those

I swear people only call it an album to try to increase his stats.

For me though you can't release some stuff that was out years prior and call that a new album cause it's not. It was a quick cash-in off the success of Stillmatic.

It’s not really definitive either way but these aren’t B sides or mixtape cuts, they were songs created while making an album but never released. Some albums are recorded over years, especially most first artist albums. My point is Lost Tapes can ride straight through and is cohesive enough but of course it’s not a concept album but album nonetheless.

What if you weren’t aware that these songs pre existed and Nas just said my new album is called The Lost Tapes

 

[MK25toLife]

Nas can do songs like If I Ruled The World and it be a huge crossover hit with lyrics. I know that was 20+ years ago though.

 

[NoHalfWay]

Fixed that for you bruh

Excellent clean up but you get what I’m sayin

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

The fact u like them garbage ass jayz tracks says it all

 

[Gravity]

its considered an album because it IS a classic. theres not faking..the quality and quantity is there. its an anomoly. most projects like that are throwaways...his wasnt...its not apart of some deeper narrative to sway some sort of battle like you're implying. its just a really great album that got released after he had tons of sample issues.

Do you really think that people outside of nas fans have ever given a fukk about that lost tape collection? You’re calling that a classic strictly off of you and other big time nas fans personal opinions. There’s no other standard that it meets as far as judging it as a classic. That’s biased dude.

Music is subjective and you’ve got to take more into account that just you and other core fans opinion on the quality. For an album to be really be classic it has to make some kind of an impact outside of the core/base audience. The collection of songs were great to us as nas fans but it didn’t reach folk who weren’t already nas fans. I don’t see how you can say that’s a classic hip hop album.

 

[spliz]

Do you really think that people outside of nas fans have ever given a fukk about that lost tape collection? You’re calling that a classic strictly off of you and other big time nas fans personal opinions. There’s no other standard that it meets as far as judging it as a classic. That’s biased dude.

Music is subjective and you’ve got to take more into account that just you and other core fans opinion on the quality. For an album to be really be classic it has to make some kind of an impact outside of the core/base audience. The collection of songs were great to us as nas fans but it didn’t reach folk who weren’t already nas fans. I don’t see how you can say that’s a classic hip hop album.

There's impact classics and there's musical classics. I've seen people who weren't even Nas fans turn into Nas fans overnight with The Lost Tapes with my own eyes. And remember at the time The Lost Tapes released way more people were receptive of Nas' shyt based off the Nas/Jay Z beef. He just came off the high of winning that battle in NYC. Only thing that hurt it at first is that people didnt know what they was getting into when they copped and automatically assumed it was throwaway joints. But when people heard it nikkas instantly called the shyt fire. I remember talkin about it in the barbershop at the time. And if u wanna talk like this. We can say the same thing about Reasonable Doubt. shyt ain't an impact classic at all. It's a quality classic. It became a universal classic cause Jay made sure to shine that light on it. The Lost Tapes is classic Nas which is why people call it a classic. It's not a universal classic tho based on the way it was handled. For instance. If that was labeled Gods Son and not The Lost Tapes. There would be no argument.

 

[Pinyapplesuckas]

Do you really think that people outside of nas fans have ever given a fukk about that lost tape collection? You’re calling that a classic strictly off of you and other big time nas fans personal opinions. There’s no other standard that it meets as far as judging it as a classic. That’s biased dude.

Music is subjective and you’ve got to take more into account that just you and other core fans opinion on the quality. For an album to be really be classic it has to make some kind of an impact outside of the core/base audience. The collection of songs were great to us as nas fans but it didn’t reach folk who weren’t already nas fans. I don’t see how you can say that’s a classic hip hop album.

You just wana argue. I dont give a fukk.