I think it's time we make a definitive coli top 10 MC list: Round 5

[BmoreGorilla]

Yeah breh, i'm not saying Rae is ass

I'm a huge fan of dude

Dre's just a better artist and has had a better career than Rae

I'm pretty sure that's a damn near universal opinion amongst unbiased fans

Idk if he's had a better career. In terms of sales maybe but both were major parts of legendary groups.

 

[tuckgod]

Wow so many holes in your low grade hooker argument. Where do I start?

You wanna credit Ghost so much on OB4CL and rightfully so, just remember that Andre has spent his whole career rapping alongside Big Boi, who is just as responsible for the classic status of Kast albums. Furthermore, are we gonna ignore Rae's contributions to Wu albums (had the most verses on both 36 and Forever) and on Ironman?

And then you imply that Raekwon being the reason for Immobilarity flopping as an album. You must have never heard it because the rapping was by far the best aspect of that album. Yeah RZA is supplying the beats but where would Kast be without Organized Noise?

I referred to dominance in a rapping sense not making a splash in the public eye. He was one of the premier lyricists throughout the decade.

No holes, g

You're reaching

Andre was the star of those Outkast albums

How many Wu-Tang songs did Rae have the hottest verse on?

Which of his verses outshined Ghosts' on the purple tape?



As far as where'd they be without Organized Noize...

Organized Noize produced 4 tracks total on Aquemini, the rest by Outkast, 5 mics in the Source when they still mattered

Organized Noize produced 3 tracks total on Stankonia, the rest by Outkast

Organized Noize produced 0 tracks total on SB/LB, Andre produced 100% of his part on the Grammy Album of the Year

I'd say they went pretty far without Organized Noize

 

[tuckgod]

Idk if he's had a better career. In terms of sales maybe but both were major parts of legendary groups.

Outkast is the only group in hip hop history to get a 5 mic album in the Source, and win a Grammy for Album of the Year

Not Hip Hop Album of the Year

Album of the Year

And they did it on two different albums at that

 

[tuckgod]

captain cross dresser?

You just got the wrong impression of expression, breh

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

No holes, g

You're reaching

Andre was the star of those Outkast albums

How many Wu-Tang songs did Rae have the hottest verse on?

Which of his verses outshined Ghosts' on the purple tape?



As far as where'd they be without Organized Noize...

Organized Noize produced 4 tracks total on Aquemini, the rest by Outkast, 5 mics in the Source when they still mattered

Organized Noize produced 3 tracks total on Stankonia, the rest by Outkast

Organized Noize produced 0 tracks total on SB/LB, Andre produced 100% of his part on the Grammy Album of the Year

I'd say they went pretty far without Organized Noize

Raekwon had Cuban Linx 2 with minimal RZA input, but he had dope beats so the album came out great. His rapping has been exceptional throughout his career. Hasn't shown any signs of really falling off.

Raekwon doesn't need to have the absolute best verse if he's guaranteeing you an 8 or 9/10 verse almost everytime. It was consistency for him.

And he got the best of Ghost a few times on OB4CL. Rainy Dayz, Glaciers of Ice, knuckleheadz and they went equal on most tracks. But on Ironman, Rae was the star of the show.

 

[tuckgod]

Raekwon had Cuban Linx 2 with minimal RZA input, but he had dope beats so the album came out great. His rapping has been exceptional throughout his career. Hasn't shown any signs of really falling off.

Raekwon doesn't need to have the absolute best verse if he's guaranteeing you an 8 or 9/10 verse almost everytime. It was consistency for him.

And he got the best of Ghost a few times on OB4CL. Rainy Dayz, Glaciers of Ice, knuckleheadz and they went equal on most tracks. But on Ironman, Rae was the star of the show.

I feel that, but you said that Big Boi is just as responsible for the classic status of those Outkast albums when that's just not true

Dre was the star of Outkast and just happened to rap alongside the greatest co-star in hip hop history

And he also was responsible for most of the ideas and production that went into their mid/late albums

He was never outshined by Big Boi for an entire album, and was rarely outshined by him on individual records

As far as Rae, he's 5th on my list of Wu-Tang emcees, strictly based off skill

 

[tuckgod]

Raekwon had Cuban Linx 2 with minimal RZA input, but he had dope beats so the album came out great. His rapping has been exceptional throughout his career. Hasn't shown any signs of really falling off.

Raekwon doesn't need to have the absolute best verse if he's guaranteeing you an 8 or 9/10 verse almost everytime. It was consistency for him.

And he got the best of Ghost a few times on OB4CL. Rainy Dayz, Glaciers of Ice, knuckleheadz and they went equal on most tracks. But on Ironman, Rae was the star of the show.

Double post

 

[HustlerOfVirginiA]

3 stacks in the top 10 shouldn't even be a debate

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

I feel that, but you said that Big Boi is just as responsible for the classic status of those Outkast albums when that's just not true

Dre was the star of Outkast and just happened to rap alongside the greatest co-star in hip hop history

And he also was responsible for most of the ideas and production that went into their mid/late albums

He was never outshined by Big Boi for an entire album, and was rarely outshined by him on individual records

As far as Rae, he's 5th on my list of Wu-Tang emcees, strictly based off skill

Big Boi is in my top 10. I think lyrically he's almost as good but then you factor in his solo career and that catapults him further than Dre in my opinion.

As for Rae, I think he's the most skilled in the Wu overall. Him or Ghost. Maybe Meth. GZA and INS are obviously the elite pure lyricists.

Point is, Rae belongs in the same rap parameters as Andre. Let's not pretend there's a huge skill gap, if one at all. They're both different.

 

[Black_Panther_JS]

I feel that, but you said that Big Boi is just as responsible for the classic status of those Outkast albums when that's just not true

he kinda is
Big Boi always to me was the main dude while dre was backup

just look at the covers
Big Boi is the main focus on all

he evens has solo songs on the albums

 

[FRIED MASON]

Where's 3Stacks solo discography?

 

[tuckgod]

he kinda is
Big Boi always to me was the main dude while dre was backup

just look at the covers
Big Boi is the main focus on all

he evens has solo songs on the albums

 

[tuckgod]

Where's 3Stacks solo discography?

He has more than enough recorded material to be seriously considered in greatest emcee of all time discussions

I think the current poll proves that more than anything I could type in this box

 

[bigrodthe1]

Lol as if Raekwon didn't brand his own style of rap, completely dominate the 90s and stand out amongst a group of all star rappers. Everyone praises his lyricism but now he can't hold a candle to captain cross dresser?

Deck you the homie and all but your Rae argument is bias. Rae over the course of his career has been VERY one dimensional and that's why Ghost is held in much higher regard. Rae is all flow, slanguage, beat selection...hell most of his best tracks are superior because of Ghosts involvement Dre time and time again had shined without Big Boi and shytted on almost everybody track that he was featured. Matter of fact on Skew it on the Bar b the only reason to ME that Rae gets props was because he was one of the first East Coast cats to get down on a Southern track and even to this day I don't really know what the fukk he was talking about but he was praised for the flow

 

[tuckgod]

Deck you the homie and all but your Rae argument is bias. Rae over the course of his career has been VERY one dimensional and that's why Ghost is held in much higher regard. Rae is all flow, slanguage, beat selection...hell most of his best tracks are superior because of Ghosts involvement Dre time and time again had shined without Big Boi and shytted on almost everybody track that he was featured. Matter of fact on Skew it on the Bar b the only reason to ME that Rae gets props was because he was one of the first East Coast cats to get down on a Southern track and even to this day I don't really know what the fukk he was talking about but he was praised for the flow