I thought Wu-Tang was worth like a billion dollars.

[mitter]

I was surprised that Once Upon a Time in Shaolin only fetched $2 million

I thought the Wu would have enough fans among super wealthy people who don't know what to do with their money that it would have gone for 8 figures.

Anyway, the One Upon a Time in Shaolin auction is just one of many things that shows Wu-Tang isn't really that big.



I think the Wu had a window to become much bigger around the time Wu-Tang Forever came out. They should have embraced the tour with Rage and the influx of more "alternative" fans. They could have ended up like a major rock band still packing stadiums well past their prime.

 

[Dad]

They sold GZA like a know it all

 

[Pop123]

I think the Wu had a window to become much bigger around the time Wu-Tang Forever came out. They should have embraced the tour with Rage and the influx of more "alternative" fans. They could have ended up like a major rock band still packing stadiums well past their prime.

Facts. Wu-Tang seems like the default hip hop choice for white people who don't really know shyt about hip hop but want to front like they do just to seem edgy or sumn, . When I was in Berlin I seen at least 5 people in the course of that weekend wearing Wu-Tang shirts, shyt lowkey disgusted me, lol.

 

[Ziggiy]

Interesting, I am confused because in yesterday's episode I saw RZA, Power and Devine hand out contracts for all of them to sign.

So they were not signed to Wu-Tang?

How much do you think Wu-Tang should of made?

RZA asked them to sign the contract and give him control of their career paths for five years. Once Wu-Tang Forever dropped it was the culmination of RZA’s five year vision and he released everyone from their contractual obligations to the Wutang company.

 

[Ziggiy]

Taking the deals made sense at the time. The labels gave them the budgets and exposure they needed to become stars, and the music was right. To me the biggest miss with Wu is that when they started to fade, they kept chasing label dreams instead of going independent at that moment.

Wu in the mid 00s was kinda sad outside of Ghost, but even he was failing on a label sales wise. That would have been a good time to go independent, pump vinyl, do shows, get distribution deals etc. Cuban Linx 2 came out via distribution I think…all of them should have been doing that once it became clear they couldn’t sell on a major anymore.

Fishscale actually outsold expectations and surprised everyone at Def Jam to the point Jay-Z personally asked Ghost to record another album which is why More Fish came out the same year.

 

[beenz]

wasnt there a Wu Tang documentary last year?

itll kind of show how outside of RZA a lot of them dudes are kind of dumb (or they have inflated egos).

Thye didnt like RZA and his brother making moves/money for them...so they all did their own thing.

Like you said..they would have been better off moving together

maybe a couple years ago. it was on showtime, so you can find it there.

 

[Mike Wins]

I was surprised that Once Upon a Time in Shaolin only fetched $2 million

I thought the Wu would have enough fans among super wealthy people who don't know what to do with their money that it would have gone for 8 figures.

Anyway, the One Upon a Time in Shaolin auction is just one of many things that shows Wu-Tang isn't really that big.



I think the Wu had a window to become much bigger around the time Wu-Tang Forever came out. They should have embraced the tour with Rage and the influx of more "alternative" fans. They could have ended up like a major rock band still packing stadiums well past their prime.

$2 million for a Cilvaringz produced compilation not bad

Could've been bigger or at least maintained their peak longer but egos got in the way. After Forever everyone went off and did their own thing and it was never the same again

 

[ORDER_66]

shyt is sad merchandise alone should have made them a literal mint

 

[Ziggiy]

I was surprised that Once Upon a Time in Shaolin only fetched $2 million

I thought the Wu would have enough fans among super wealthy people who don't know what to do with their money that it would have gone for 8 figures.

Anyway, the One Upon a Time in Shaolin auction is just one of many things that shows Wu-Tang isn't really that big.



I think the Wu had a window to become much bigger around the time Wu-Tang Forever came out. They should have embraced the tour with Rage and the influx of more "alternative" fans. They could have ended up like a major rock band still packing stadiums well past their prime.

A lot of artists go platinum and don’t make $2 Million of their record sells so that was an excellent overall marketing decision. The only issue was misleading the members of the Wu-Tang into thinking they were delivering verses for a Cilvarings album.

 

[Mr. Negative]

Facts. Wu-Tang seems like the default hip hop choice for white people who don't really know shyt about hip hop but want to front like they do just to seem edgy or sumn, . When I was in Berlin I seen at least 5 people in the course of that weekend wearing Wu-Tang shirts, shyt lowkey disgusted me, lol.

I hate to say it

but I kinda feel like if you got too much of a combination of

Snoop/Dre
Em
Wu (as a whole)
50
MF DOOM (but only DangerDOOM)
Andre 3k
Biggie
Big L
Illmatic (not Nas, jjust Illmatic)
Bone Thugs
Tech N9ne
Jedi Mind Tricks

In your top 10/favorite hip hop artists, then you don't know what the hell you're talking about as far as hip hop goes


Nothing against those artists, but some kinda way it seems like their greatest hits make up the casual white listener's hardcore "I love hip hop not that mainstream shyt" hip hop playlists

 

[mitter]

A lot of artists go platinum and don’t make $2 Million of their record sells so that was an excellent overall marketing decision. The only issue was misleading the members of the Wu-Tang into thinking they were delivering verses for a Cilvarings album.

I'm not saying it wasn't a good financial decision. In this day and age, very few artists sell lots of records. So you are right that they probably got more money out of the auction than otherwise.

I'm just saying that I thought it would go for a higher price. Remember, rich people who don't know what to spend their money on will spend tens, hundreds of millions of dollars on art and other collectors items. I thought the Wu would have enough hardcore super rich fans that would bid against each other that the final selling price would be more like $20 million. I think if a celebrated rock band came up with a similar concept, that's around how much they would be able to sell the CD for.

 

[Mike Wins]

Facts. Wu-Tang seems like the default hip hop choice for white people who don't really know shyt about hip hop but want to front like they do just to seem edgy or sumn, . When I was in Berlin I seen at least 5 people in the course of that weekend wearing Wu-Tang shirts, shyt lowkey disgusted me, lol.

Think this is half right. It's the default choice for white people who love hip hop. Like every white person I ever met who listens to a lot of rap loves Wu. I got a theory that it's related to the mythology, the kung fu and comic book style characters and alter egos made them more accessible or relatable somehow because the actual music is as black and as street as it gets. But I never met a casual of any race who listens to them.

 

[Robbie3000]

Interesting, I am confused because in yesterday's episode I saw RZA, Power and Devine hand out contracts for all of them to sign.

So they were not signed to Wu-Tang?

How much do you think Wu-Tang should of made?

They were signed to Wu-Tang productions. Then the production company would find label deals and get a cut.

RZA released all they from their individual contracts and lost millions. He only kept the group signed to the production company.

He went to Hollywood and made millions again in the movies. Divine made smart investments so there is some jealousy towards the Diggs brothers.

U-God is a bitter bozo

RZA is a damn saint for putting up with a lot of them nikkas to be honest.

 

[mitter]

Facts. Wu-Tang seems like the default hip hop choice for white people who don't really know shyt about hip hop but want to front like they do just to seem edgy or sumn, . When I was in Berlin I seen at least 5 people in the course of that weekend wearing Wu-Tang shirts, shyt lowkey disgusted me, lol.

Yeah, I have seen plenty of people wearing Wu-Tang shirts in Europe

There is a reason that hip-hop artists tour there

A lot of the fans are clueless in certain ways, but I think European fans generally show more enthusiasm for older hip-hop acts than American fans

 

[mitter]

I think the Wu had a window to become much bigger around the time Wu-Tang Forever came out. They should have embraced the tour with Rage and the influx of more "alternative" fans. They could have ended up like a major rock band still packing stadiums well past their prime.

As an example of what I mean, I went to a Wu concert in 2012 in LA at the Nokia Theatre.

They should have been performing at the Staples Center.