I told y'all muh'fukkas that Pop's being left behind.....

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Pop is suffering a similar demise to Phil Jackson, cause he too didn't embrace the 3-point shot, and ended up being left behind.

Once seen as the golden franchise for modern basketball, the Spurs are suddenly stuck in the 1990s. On the season, 47.7 percent of San Antonio’s shots come from the mid-range, a figure that is seven percent higher than second place. To put it into context, the difference the Spurs in first and the Warriors in second is the same difference between the Warriors in second and the Knicks in 10th.

The Lakers attempt mid-range shots just 26 percent of the time. To add even more context, the Spurs take nearly as many long twos (24.5 percent) as the Lakers take mid-range shots period.

While the Lakers could certainly shoot more three-pointers, they attack the rim at such a high rate and avoid mid-range shots at such a rate that they still have a modern, efficient offense. The Spurs, meanwhile, are 21st in the league in effective field goal percentage.

Spurs starters - 22nd in points per game, 30th in 3-pt attempts, 1st in mid-range & long two attempts.

 

[FS4LFE]

I think he may have lost passion for coaching. The Kawhi situation and his wife dying probably didn’t help.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

fukking retarded... man just went to the playoffs with old ass bums who all fell off years ago... his teams invented that 3 point shooting, euro ball... he's got demoted derosen as his best player and nobody else worth a damn on the team... yea i said it

pop will be just fine if he gets some players.... then again he probably gonna retire soon

 

[holidayinn21]

Stop. Just..............stop.

 

[CantStop]

So you want him to force non 3 pt shooters to shoot 3s? @Gil Scott-Heroin logic brehs

 

[Fortunate Lee]

He won 5 rings in three different decades/eras, who can say that?

I think we need to respect him and leave Pop be, plus he already won by ‘embracing’ the three (2014)

Breh

 

[Gotright]

Warriors Stan’s y’all... let that man be

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

So you want him to force non 3 pt shooters to shoot 3s? @Gil Scott-Heroin logic brehs

The problem with this is, you have to adapt, not every team that has an offense structured around the 3-ball has a vast amount of natural shooters, they too have "midrange players" and post players, it's just they've sculpted their personnel:

Brook Lopez is attempting seven 3-pointers per game
Blake Griffin is attempting six three-pointers per game
Aaron Gordon is attempting four 3-pointers per game
Marc Gasol is attempting four 3-pointers per game
Joel Embiid is attempting four 3-pointers per game
Al Horford is attempting four 3-pointers per game

All of these big men are inherently post/midrange players, but they've adapted for the sake of their respective team's offense. There are plenty of guards/wings who are "midrange players", but have adjusted too.

LaMarcus Aldridge is attempting 0.4 threes per game (funnily enough he was working on his 3-pt shot all summer - LMA's been sharpening his 3-point shot)
DeMar DeRozan is attempting 1.6 threes per game (DeRozan attempted 3.6 threes last season in Toronto)
They're both taking over eight long 2s per game (combined)

The Spurs starting lineup is 22nd in points per game and 30th in 3-point attempts (11 per game - most of the best starting offenses are attempting 20-25 per game).

How do you expect them to have any success on the offensive end if their two main options are taking 4x the amount of long 2s than the amount of 3s? How do you expect them to have any success on the offensive end if they're taking half the amount of 3s than most other starting offenses? How do you expect them to have any success on the offensive end when they can't keep up with other starting offenses' points per possession rates? How do you expect them to have any success on the offensive end when they're shrinking the floor (making it easier for opposing defenses, and harder for their own teammates) where their two main options are fighting over possessions in the same areas, taking the least valuable/efficient shot in basketball?

He's being left behind, and if he's not careful, just like Phil, he'll be outta the league soon too if he doesn't adapt.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

He won 5 rings in three different decades/eras, who can say that?

I think we need to respect him and leave Pop be, plus he already won by ‘embracing’ the three (2014)

Breh

First of all, that was 4-5 years ago, the league has changed exponentially since then - the league-average 3-pt attempts in 2014 was 21 per game (Spurs averaged 21 per game - right in line with the league-average), the league-average 3-pt attempts this season is 31 per game (Spurs only average 24 per game). The 3-ball has always been complementary in Pop's system, whereas now nearly every team centers their offense around it, and the Spurs offense no longer has that advantage they once had. They simply can't keep up with the rest of the league.

"The Spurs have typically been one of the slowest-paced teams for a while now, that doesn't explain why their 3-pt rate has barely changed over the last five seasons (21 three-point attempts per game at a 94 possession rate in 2012; 24 three-point attempts per game at a 98 possession rate in 2018). Taking into account pace, their 3-pt rate is nearly identical to what it was five seasons ago, whereas almost every team has notably increased their 3-pt activity.

Let me reiterate - when you take into account pace, the Spurs' 3-pt activity this season is nearly identical to what it was SEVEN seasons ago. "

 

[Fortunate Lee]

First of all, that was 4-5 years ago, the league has changed exponentially since then - the league-average 3-pt attempts in 2014 was 21 per game (Spurs averaged 21 per game - right in line with the league-average), the league-average 3-pt attempts this season is 31 per game (Spurs only average 24 per game). The 3-ball has always been complementary in Pop's system, whereas now nearly every team centers their offense around it, and the Spurs offense no longer has that advantage they once had.

"The Spurs have typically been one of the slowest-paced teams for a while now, that doesn't explain why their 3-pt rate has barely changed over the last five seasons (21 three-point attempts per game at a 94 possession rate in 2012; 24 three-point attempts per game at a 98 possession rate in 2018). Taking into account pace, their 3-pt rate is nearly identical to what it was five seasons ago, whereas almost every team has notably increased their 3-pt activity.

Let me reiterate - when you take into account pace, the Spurs' 3-pt activity this season is nearly identical to what it was SEVEN seasons ago. "

Shooting threes at high clip doesn’t make you a good or great team

You need generational players to go with that system..their big 3 getting old hurt that team more than anything.

Did you see what happened to the Rockets last season?? That should kill all that three ball talk

You need a balanced team to win a championship

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Edit.

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

His team made it to the WCF just last year(2017)

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

His team made it to the WCF just last year(2017)

That was TWO seasons ago, we're talking about the NOW.

The Spurs offense is suffering because the coaching staff hasn't embraced the 3-ball. Let me just put this into perspective - almost all the top-ranked starting offenses attempt 20-25 threes per game, whereas the Spurs starters only attempt 11 per game. Instead, they're taking more mid-range/long 2s (the most inefficient shot in basketball), which not only limits their scoring production, statistically, but because they're not stretching the floor, opposition defenses have less distance to cover to contest/defend shots.

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

That was TWO seasons ago, we're talking about the NOW. The Spurs offense is suffering because the coaching staff hasn't embraced the 3-ball. Let me just put this into perspective - almost all the top-ranked starting offenses attempt 20-25 threes per game, whereas the Spurs starters only attempt 11 per game.

Breh that was literally just last yearand I think Trading Kawhi and Danny green for a known playoff choke artist who’s still learning his own identity and losing murray is why the spurs aren’t playing up to par right now. I’m not denying the three ball isn’t important but I don’t think that’s why the spurs are suffering right now.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Shooting threes at high clip doesn’t make you a good or great team

If you don't shoot the 3-ball at high volume (specifically your starting lineup) you're NOT going to have a dominant offense. It's as simple as that. The Spurs starters attempt HALF the amount of 3s than all the top-ranked offenses, and instead settle for more mid-range/long 2 shots - the most inefficient shot in the game - that's why they have one of worst [starting] offenses in the league.

Did you see what happened to the Rockets last season?? That should kill all that three ball talk

Let me ask you this, would the Rockets have got as far as they did [Game 7 of the WCF], if they took the Spurs approach on offense - taking more mid-range/long 2s than 3s?