I told y'all muh'fukkas that Pop's being left behind.....

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Nah, Derozan and Aldridge just played like trash.
 
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Nah, Derozan and Aldridge just played like trash.
So Pop and the coaching staff are absolved from any of the blame? Do they also not get blame for not having the right adjustments that put DeRozan and LMA in a better position to perform? Do you do this with every single other team when the players play like "trash", and don't blame the coach? Are the coaches never at fault in your eyes?
 
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@ISO

You don't think there's a problem with the Spurs taking more long 2s than 3s, when every other team not only takes more 3s than long 2s, but exceptionally more? What if this were a team with an unproven, middling coach, would you be of the same belief that there was nothing wrong with their scheme?
 

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@Remote I told y'all he was getting ready for the comeback :damn:
Lol

We lost. Its whatever. Maybe it was because or roster limitations or strategy. Not really sure. Perhaps both.

But I am curious how the Spurs plan on moving forward.

I get that GSH may want to rub things in after the fact but for me...I wanna know how SAS plans to improve.
 

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I honestly don't think I'll ever not be surprised at the lack of reading comprehension on this site. If I didn't know any better, I'd swear there's an inside joke that everyone was keeping up, about everything.
Why are you questioning our reading comprehension?
 
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Coaches who always make the most of what they have will never get passed by.
Unfortunately, I don't think this applies to Pop anymore. He's going in the opposite direction to the current trend of the league. This is why I don't quite understand why folks argued against this in the first place when they acknowledge his team doesn't shoot 3s at the same volume as the rest of the league.

If Pop isn't moving with the rest of the league, who've shifted to more points per possession based offenses, then "behind" is the only place he can possibly be.


Gil :lawd:
This is worse, even though I told you at the time you were wrong. Most of your dislike of him was because cacs kept talking about him like the best thing ever. I knew what you meant but I knew you was wrong. This is the worst. This nikka been pushing he knows better than Pop in the general hoops thread and decided the Spurs was at #8 pick in the draft and it was time for him to bury Pop and boost about his Basketball IQ being superior to Pop's but it didn't turn out the way he planned. :umad:

Because he is a clown and few take him consistently serious, he looked like a dumbass and we have this as proof.
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:skip: you waited for them to lose re up this thread. Sorry breh this is one of the worst backfires ever they had a great season
Spacing heat map rankings:

1. Bucks
2. Celtics
3. Warriors
4. Rockets
5. Hawks

26. Spurs
San Antonio were the 26th-ranked team during the regular season when it came to spacing, but if you were to compare their starters v. starters from the across the league, not only would they have ranked dead-last, but the margin between them and the second-worst team was greater than the 1st and the 20th-ranked starters.

Purely from a strategical standpoint, the Spurs' starters offense operated on a level that would've befitted play during the 1990s - light years behind today's league.

Shot generation v. defender rankings

1. Bucks
2. Celtics
3. Hawks
4. Nets
5. Jazz

29. Spurs
San Antonio were the 29th-ranked team during the regular season when it came to generation of shots, reiterating their inability to generate good* shots [good = uncontested and defense out of position], reflected by their overreliance on activity in the midrange, in a climate where defenses are typically stretched beyond the arc, which made it easier for their opposition to defend their offense (as opposition defenses usually are covering more ground and making more defensive adjustments against teams who shoot higher volume 3s - opposition defenses traveled less distance on defense against the Spurs than any other team during the regular season).

Basically, SA's pro tem offense was based on their players' talent and ability to generate points in ISO; off-balance/non-set, contested shots; heavy traffic; less space to work in - in spite of their offensive scheme which was holding them back (lack of spacing and lack of 'good' shot creation). This came to a head during the regular season in the games when they shot less than league-average on contested shots, where they ranked 24th on offense (this is to put into perspective how detrimental their offensive strategy was when they weren't making contested shots - they ranked top-5 in contested shot makes during the regular season, and #3 during the first round - contrary to popular belief that the Spurs lack the talent/personnel to win, they were actually winning/in position to win due to their players' ability to make tough shots, not their scheme/game-plan).

The cutting off their nose to spite their face act of trying to match 33% 3-pt efficiency (which is below league-average as it is) through shooting 50% on midrange shots, not only put themselves at an efficiency disadvantage, but they made an improbable task even more improbable by swimming against the tide trying to get those type of shots off in the first place.

TL;DR - Spurs' offensive scheme is completely outdated; Pop got left behind because he and the coaching staff failed to adjust to the 3-pt climate, and relied too heavily on mid post-ups, DD and midrange spots; the ability of the Spurs' players was the main reason that they were in position to win games, in spite of the coaching.
I was right all along, there's nothing that you can state that proves otherwise.

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Why did you have this essay ready to go on copy paste like a bot? Lmao the spurs had a good season so this is a dumb thread and has been all season, unless you really think popovich makes them worse :mjlol:
 
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That idiot is still wrong. Says Popp cant coach in todays NBA yet he overachieved with his roster.
He actually underachieved with that roster. He relied on a scheme that is no longer useful in this current 3-pt climate. You can stop lying to yourself now. It won't hurt to admit you were wrong.

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Why did you have this essay ready to go on copy paste like a bot? Lmao the spurs had a good season so this is a dumb thread and has been all season, unless you really think popovich makes them worse :mjlol:
To prove that you're wrong (as well as 99% of the posters participating in this thread), and I was right. I don't particularly care if you think they had a "good season", their offensive MO is flawed and goes against the current state the league is now in. Those are the facts. You can either choose to take them in and digest them, or be like the rest of these lame ass nikkas and spit them back out. The choice is yours.
 
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