Ice Cube says rap encourages criminal behavior

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Now i will give him this...as a big ice cube fan, all of the criminal stories ended badly for the main character in his song.....ghetto vet, summer vacation, what can i do,.....and even on later albums (everythings corrupt) he dropped knowledge about the system and not falling prey to it. He had a song on the predator i think called US that was about us cleaning our selves up and doing better.

But those types of songs werent making him millions and interscope billions, thus they were fewer of those types and marketed less.



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By "they" do you also mean "we":comeon:?
Us as fans of the ignorance have to take some responsibility. We werent always children and had the option to demand more. Theres blame for the top execs,all the way down to fans.

Fans did want more

Neo Soul, backpack era, and conscious hip-hop

All were suppressed by the major labels to push the bullshyt agenda and they found the right puppets to play the game to spread the negative image and ignorance to the masses.
 

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Fans did want more

Neo Soul, backpack era, and conscious hip-hop

All were suppressed by the major labels to push the bullshyt agenda and they found the right puppets to play the game to spread the negative image and ignorance to the masses.


Was it supressed or not pushed because it wasnt as popular? Kendrick and J Cole seem to get pushed just fine. So i believe whatever sells and is projected to sell the most will take precedent and get the bigger push. This is the perfect environment for lyrical rappers with a message based on who two of the biggest rappers are. But the music has to be good and sellable. Which is harder to do for artist. Yet we lower the standard for artist with nothing to say who cant rap. So in a sense we as fans still created the cieling that limits conscious rappers due to higher standards.
 

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Was it supressed or not pushed because it wasnt as popular? Kendrick and J Cole seem to get pushed just fine. So i believe whatever sells and is projected to sell the most will take precedent and get the bigger push. This is the perfect environment for lyrical rappers with a message based on who two of the biggest rappers are. But the music has to be good and sellable. Which is harder to do for artist. Yet we lower the standard for artist with nothing to say who cant rap. So in a sense we as fans still created the cieling that limits conscious rappers due to higher standards.


Why wasn’t is as popular…?

Because it was suppressed and not given the same exposure as the bullshyt thuggery image they were trying to push in the 90s

The main switch happened in early 90s from souls of mischief, a tribe called quest, etc to NWA and gangsta rap.

Trust and believe Neo, soul, and conscious hip-hop could have definitely been mainstream and sold. It’s all about the machine backing you and forcing your agenda on people.

Jay z and lil Wayne the best rappers? No…

But these niiggas said it so much and had the backing of the majors that the masses started to believe and run with the narrative…
 

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That's crazy, I watched the video at the timestamps provided by the OP and nowhere does cube say the words in the title of the thread. :comeon:

I wonder how many people decided to engage without even bothering to click play?:unimpressed:
 

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I literally made these points a while back on here and dudes jumped down my throat.


Pure dysfunction peddled to our community so that a few Black men could become rich and famous and record labels could make multi-billions.

Dudes take it personal if you speak the truth about how this shyt has affected the community.

Lmao at all the hiphop artists who got rich living amongst whites and putting their kids in gated communities and white schools and PWIs. It is hilarious.

Yall’s elders were right. Now here we are, decades later.

Future was rapping about lean even though he admitted he stopped it years back because of its detrimental effects, etc.

Kid Cudi noooooow swinging back to tell kids to stay away from drugs after he’s pretty much exited the most influential phase of his career. How many kids did he influence ten+ years ago tho when he was out his mind???!

This is the shyt that’s been sold to Black youth and it started decades ago.

Ice Cube admitting what was known yeeeeeears ago.



Again, here we are.
Hiphop was young and hungry then. Rappers that got it out the mud and made something of themselves and now have families of course would change their stances. It’s stupid but it is what it is. I’m just glad I listened to everything and didn’t take gangsta rap too seriously even as a kid.
 

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Music about crimes can influence people to commit said crimes. It’s all programming. It’s sad to say but the OGs yall claim to love so much helped sell the genre out decades ago
And the young G’s or whatever you want to call the alternative aren’t doing any better. All the shot going on right now and ain’t no rebel music going on. Can’t lose that Apple Music deal tho I guess :yeshrug:
 

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Of course it would still be present but it wouldn't be glamorized in our music.

A hundred years from now when hip hop is past and people ready to be honest...it will probably be reported as an epidemic that caused more damage in the black community than crack.
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There is no evidence
to back this up. If anything crime went down when street rap went mainstream in the late 80s and early 90s.

Heron and Coke and the violence that comes from their trade, became popular in the 70s when Rock, soul and Funk were the popular music ganres. The crips and bloods formed during this time period and became menace 2 society when hip hop was a happy go lucky genre.

Hell, the 20s-40s were a very dark and violent time and people were listening to Blues and Jazz.
 

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There is no evidence
to back this up. If anything crime went down when street rap went mainstream in the late 80s and early 90s.

Heron and Coke and the violence that comes from their trade, became popular in the 70s when Rock, soul and Funk were the popular music ganres. The crips and bloods formed during this time period and became menace 2 society when hip hop was a happy go lucky genre.

Hell, the 20s-40s were a very dark and violent time and people were listening to Blues and Jazz.

Point being it may have been even lower without rap glorifying the gangsta lifestyle which caused even suburban youth to emulate. But as I said, it needs to be studied.
 

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Point being it may have been even lower without rap glorifying the gangsta lifestyle which caused even suburban youth to emulate. But as I said, it needs to be studied.
White people bought thar music more than anybody else..which is why we are in 2025 and all these non blacks are saying "Nygga this and nygga that" and keep questioning why they can't use that word.
 

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White people bought thar music more than anybody else..which is why we are in 2025 and all these non blacks are saying "Nygga this and nygga that" and keep questioning why they can't use that word.

Yeah in 2025 I no longer try and gatekeep that word. We made it public and popular...and got the nerve to try and enforce no one can't use it but us smh.

If you work with kids, you'll see that they all use it now.
 

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But has rap music contributed to bad parenting and absent fathers?

It's going have to be studied and unpacked. Because if anyone can substantiate rap music influenced people to be bad parents....WHOA!

There will be arguments that rap music was a worst epidemic than crack!
We really blaming rappers for shytty mathers and the daddy running away. :mjtf:

nikkas need to start taking accountability and stop blaming entertainers.
 

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Fans did want more

Neo Soul, backpack era, and conscious hip-hop

All were suppressed by the major labels to push the bullshyt agenda and they found the right puppets to play the game to spread the negative image and ignorance to the masses.
Ain't no black people wanna hear that shyt lets be honest. :mjlol:
 
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