Ice Cube Vs Biggie? who was better?

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Biggie was a much more creative and a better artist than Cube.

:what: no way Biggie was more creative how the fukk do you even get that!? Biggie was still below Cube when it comes to stotrytelling, Cube wrote better songs for other people, better dedication songs, better gangsta songs, more influence, he's just better in every way except multis and diversifying his flow.
 

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:what: no way Biggie was more creative how the fukk do you even get that!? Biggie was still below Cube when it comes to stotrytelling, Cube wrote better songs for other people, better dedication songs, better gangsta songs, more influence, he's just better in every way except multis and diversifying his flow.

Gimmie The Loot, Suicidal Thoughts, 10 Crack Commandments, Miss You, Warning, Somebodies Gotta Die, I Got A Story To Tell, Me & My bytch.

Lol at wrote better songs for other people lol.

Biggie is much better than Cube, Cube was basic. Good but basic. Biggie was a better lyricist, better flow, far better rhythm, better albums, better voice, better songwriter/maker, more witty. Cube had a basic simple in your face style, which was cool, but he doesn't come close to the artistry of Biggie. Ready To Die is much more acclaimed than any Ice Cube album.
 
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Biggie fans are delusional

Don't get me wrong, I can respect people taking biggie over cube and yes in real life most people would easily say big

But real heads know prime cube is arguably the greatest rapper ever

Thing is cubes peak was over 20 years ago...

put it to you this way if cube would have retired after death certifcate he would be goat on my list but he did'nt so he not lmao but he better then biggie.
 

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Gimmie The Loot, Suicidal Thoughts, 10 Crack Commandments, Miss You, Warning, Somebodies Gotta Die.

Lol at wrote better songs for other people lol.

Biggie is much better than Cube, Cube was basic. Good but basic. Biggie was a better lyricist, better flow, far better rhythm, better albums, better voice, better songwriter/maker, more witty. Cube had a basic simple in your face style, which was cool, but he doesn't come close to the artistry of Biggie. Ready To Die is much more acclaimed than any Ice Cube album.

in what world is Ready To Die more acclaimed than Death Certificate?

Dead Homiez, Once Upon A Time In The Projects, Summer Vacation, Ghetto Bird, A Bird In The Hand, Check Yoself, Gangsta Gangsta, Dopeman, Ghetto Vet, Steady Mobbin, True To The Game, i can go on forever. Cube has better songs on more albums, more varied subject matter, better battle/beef songs. like i said, the only parts where Biggie is ahead is multis & diversity of flow. if you want to talk strictly technical rhyming ability then yeah, Biggie is ahead of Cube by a far margin but when you wanna talk overall as an MC then Cube is far better IMO
 

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Biggie fans are delusional

Don't get me wrong, I can respect people taking biggie over cube and yes in real life most people would easily say big

But real heads know prime cube is arguably the greatest rapper ever

Thing is cubes peak was over 20 years ago...

Not really, there's a small sect of people that think Cube is the greatest, a very very tiny minority.
 

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in what world is Ready To Die more acclaimed than Death Certificate?

Dead Homiez, Once Upon A Time In The Projects, Summer Vacation, Ghetto Bird, A Bird In The Hand, Check Yoself, Gangsta Gangsta, Dopeman, Ghetto Vet, Steady Mobbin, True To The Game, i can go on forever. Cube has better songs on more albums, more varied subject matter, better battle/beef songs. like i said, the only parts where Biggie is ahead is multis & diversity of flow. if you want to talk strictly technical rhyming ability then yeah, Biggie is ahead of Cube by a far margin but when you wanna talk overall as an MC then Cube is far better IMO

In the real world. Cool, all opinions, I just felt Big's music a lot more. And most Hip Hop heads would agree, though Cube is definitely respected.
 

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Biggie fans are delusional

Don't get me wrong, I can respect people taking biggie over cube and yes in real life most people would easily say big

But real heads know prime cube is arguably the greatest rapper ever

Thing is cubes peak was over 20 years ago...

This is a real heads list... (from around 03/04)

18.Ice Cube
17.Method Man
16.Treach
15.Jay-Z
14.Kool G Rap
13.Tupac
12.Queen Latifah
11.Nas
10.Lauryn Hill
9.B.I.G.
8.Chuck D
7.LL Cool J
6.GrandMaster Caz
5.Kool Mo Dee
4.Big Daddy Kane
3.KRS-One
2.Rakim
1.Melle Mel
 

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When rappers had to pick their rap dream team, let's see how many picked Cube over Big...

Fat Joe: 1: Big Pun, 2: KRS-One, 3: Nas, 4: Eminem, 5: Kool G Rap

Rakim: 1: Melle Mel, 2: Raekwon, 3: Sadat X, 4: Kool Moe Dee, 5: M.O.P

Bubba Sparxx: 1: Andre 3000, 2: Cee-Lo, 3: Big Boi, 4: Scarface, 5: 8Ball

Talib Kweli: 1: 2 Pac, 2: Notorious B.I.G, 3: Black Thought, 4: Nas, 5: Jay Z

Jadakiss: 1: Notorious B.I.G, 2: 2 Pac, 3: Eminem, 4: Nas, 5: Styles P

50 Cent: 1: 2 Pac, 2: Notorious B.I.G, 3: Snoop Dogg, 4: Eminem, 5: Kool G Rap

Canibus: 1: Rakim, 2: Kool G Rap, 3: Redman, 4: Eminem, 5: Nas

Tricky Daddy: 1: Smoke, 2: Nelly, 3: Nas, 4: Scarface, 5: Ludacris

Joe Budden: 1: 2 Pac, 2: Jay Z, 3: Notorious B.I.G, 4: Rakim, 5: Big Daddy Kane

Raekwon: 1: Rakim, 2: Slick Rick, 3: Big Daddy Kane, 4: Kool G Rap, 5: Notorious B.I.G

Kurupt: 1: Rakim, 2: Kool G Rap, 3: Rosco, 4: Cassidy, 5: N.W.A

Trina: 1: Jay Z, 2: 50 Cent, 3: Nelly, 4: Ludacris, 5: Baby

David Banner: 1: 2 Pac, 2: Pimp C, 3: Scarface, 4: Andre 300, 5: Busta Rhymes

Fabulous: 1: Notorious B.I.G, 2: 2 Pac, 3: Jay Z, 4: Nas, 5: Eminem/Jadakiss

Common: 1: KRS-One, 2: Big Daddy Kane, 3: Rakim, 4: Notorious B.I.G, 5: Nas

Memphis Bleek: 1: Jay Z, 2: Notorious B.I.G, 3: 2 Pac, 4: Run DMC, 5: Rakim

Snoop Dogg: 1: 2 Pac, 2: Slick Rick, 3: Rakim, 4: Notorious B.I.G, 5: Too Short

Nelly: 1: 2 Pac, 2: Notorious B.I.G, 3: LL Cool J, 4: E-40, 5: Scarface

Redman: 1: Slick Rick, 2: KRS-One, 3: Notorious B.I.G, 4: Jay Z, 5: Eminem

Prodigy: 1: Rakim, 2: LL Cool J, 3: Kool G Rap, 4: Big Daddy Kane, 5: Run DMC

Killer Mike: 1: Rakim, 2: Scarface, 3: Bun B, 4: Big Boi, 5: Jay Z

Lil Flip: 1: Jadakiss, 2: Scarface, 3: DMX, 4: Eminem, 5: 50 Cent

WC: 1: Ice Cube, 2: Mack 10, 3: 2 Pac, 4: Notorious B.I.G, 5: Jay Z

Q Tip: 1: Notorious B.I.G, 2: Nas, 3: Rakim, 4: Slick Rick, 5: KRS-One

Erik Sermon: 1: Jay Z, 2: Notorious B.I.G, 3: Redman, 4: KRS-One, 5: Rakim
 

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When rappers had to pick their rap dream team, let's see how many picked Cube over Big...

Fat Joe: 1: Big Pun, 2: KRS-One, 3: Nas, 4: Eminem, 5: Kool G Rap

Rakim: 1: Melle Mel, 2: Raekwon, 3: Sadat X, 4: Kool Moe Dee, 5: M.O.P

Bubba Sparxx: 1: Andre 3000, 2: Cee-Lo, 3: Big Boi, 4: Scarface, 5: 8Ball

Talib Kweli: 1: 2 Pac, 2: Notorious B.I.G, 3: Black Thought, 4: Nas, 5: Jay Z

Jadakiss: 1: Notorious B.I.G, 2: 2 Pac, 3: Eminem, 4: Nas, 5: Styles P

50 Cent: 1: 2 Pac, 2: Notorious B.I.G, 3: Snoop Dogg, 4: Eminem, 5: Kool G Rap

Canibus: 1: Rakim, 2: Kool G Rap, 3: Redman, 4: Eminem, 5: Nas

Tricky Daddy: 1: Smoke, 2: Nelly, 3: Nas, 4: Scarface, 5: Ludacris

Joe Budden: 1: 2 Pac, 2: Jay Z, 3: Notorious B.I.G, 4: Rakim, 5: Big Daddy Kane

Raekwon: 1: Rakim, 2: Slick Rick, 3: Big Daddy Kane, 4: Kool G Rap, 5: Notorious B.I.G

Kurupt: 1: Rakim, 2: Kool G Rap, 3: Rosco, 4: Cassidy, 5: N.W.A

Trina: 1: Jay Z, 2: 50 Cent, 3: Nelly, 4: Ludacris, 5: Baby

David Banner: 1: 2 Pac, 2: Pimp C, 3: Scarface, 4: Andre 300, 5: Busta Rhymes

Fabulous: 1: Notorious B.I.G, 2: 2 Pac, 3: Jay Z, 4: Nas, 5: Eminem/Jadakiss

Common: 1: KRS-One, 2: Big Daddy Kane, 3: Rakim, 4: Notorious B.I.G, 5: Nas

Memphis Bleek: 1: Jay Z, 2: Notorious B.I.G, 3: 2 Pac, 4: Run DMC, 5: Rakim

Snoop Dogg: 1: 2 Pac, 2: Slick Rick, 3: Rakim, 4: Notorious B.I.G, 5: Too Short

Nelly: 1: 2 Pac, 2: Notorious B.I.G, 3: LL Cool J, 4: E-40, 5: Scarface

Redman: 1: Slick Rick, 2: KRS-One, 3: Notorious B.I.G, 4: Jay Z, 5: Eminem

Prodigy: 1: Rakim, 2: LL Cool J, 3: Kool G Rap, 4: Big Daddy Kane, 5: Run DMC

Killer Mike: 1: Rakim, 2: Scarface, 3: Bun B, 4: Big Boi, 5: Jay Z

Lil Flip: 1: Jadakiss, 2: Scarface, 3: DMX, 4: Eminem, 5: 50 Cent

WC: 1: Ice Cube, 2: Mack 10, 3: 2 Pac, 4: Notorious B.I.G, 5: Jay Z

Q Tip: 1: Notorious B.I.G, 2: Nas, 3: Rakim, 4: Slick Rick, 5: KRS-One

Erik Sermon: 1: Jay Z, 2: Notorious B.I.G, 3: Redman, 4: KRS-One, 5: Rakim

yes, we all know that Biggie has reached a deified level because of his death. he never had a downfall, he never had a fall off which Cube has. any time anyone is asked for a top 5 it's damn near blasphemy not to mention Pac & BIG. most people would acknowledge that Cube has had maybe the best run of any MC in history. that run from Straight Outta Compton to DC (or arguably Predator) is unfukkwittable. critical acclaim, big sales, hits, substance, dope production, flow was ill, had the whites scared & loving him at the same time. he battled the biggest group at the time and came out on top, Biggie didn't come out on top of his beef.
 

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Cube by a huge margin, just off of Death Certificate alone.

Throw in Kill at Will, Amerikka's Most Wanted and his work with NWA and factor in his colossal impact on Hip Hop and it gets ugly
 

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yes, we all know that Biggie has reached a deified level because of his death. he never had a downfall, he never had a fall off which Cube has. any time anyone is asked for a top 5 it's damn near blasphemy not to mention Pac & BIG. most people would acknowledge that Cube has had maybe the best run of any MC in history. that run from Straight Outta Compton to DC (or arguably Predator) is unfukkwittable. critical acclaim, big sales, hits, substance, dope production, flow was ill, had the whites scared & loving him at the same time. he battled the biggest group at the time and came out on top, Biggie didn't come out on top of his beef.

You say it's cause of his death, I say it's cause of his music. Lots of people have died and aren't viewed as among the great MC's, EG: Proof. Mm I don't think most people would acknowledge that, rarely hear Cube mentioned in real life as a great, occasionally I guess. Biggie didn't have a famous lyrical battle with anyone. Like the thing shows, most artists view Big as better and higher, they are obviously some of the most knowledgeable people. They know what artistry is, I saw Nas talking about various songs on Life After Death one time, My Downfall, all types of shyt, Cube was dope, but to me he wasn't even really on Big's level when it comes to artistry. No-one would say Big wasn't on Jay or Nas' level when he was alive, what is Cube doing musically now? Artists on the level of a Nas still making dope shyt.
 

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Yeah, anyone sayin BIG is entitled to their opinion, but theyre basing it off of peer pressure. Plus BIG's technical prowess is being greatly exaggerated as anything East Coast is here. The nikka did make songs people liked, the nikka was still an average rapper lyrically and technically. Cube actually had a movement and changed the face of hip hop... gave nikkaz like Biggie a style that he could run with... nah mean?
 
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