I'd take Embidd over Towns straight up

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No he wasn't dumb ass, where is this "50 game" stretch that you mentioned, lets get that out the way first. You keep talking out your ass without backing anything up that you say, everything I've said so far about Embiid's defense has either been posted with actual numbers. We not talking you and your stupid ass opinion, we're talking cold hard numbers. Prove what you're saying about Oden, if not :camby: cause I already know all his defensive numbers and Embiid has been better :mjgrin:





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"At no point in the season"



You really are stupid, like for real. The Wolves are a disappointment because they have the same record as the Sixers who don't have their number 1 pick Ben Simmons and are starting a collection of players with Embiid that will be coming off the bench in the future, while the Wolves have LaVine, Wiggins, Dunn, Dieng, Shabazz. Only someone dumb as rocks wouldn't be able to see the difference in the situations there, the Wolves have Thibodeau, their expectations were higher than the team with Tj McConnell starting at PG.


No moron, I'm not the one making the claims about Oden's defense, you are, so either get the stats yourself or shut the fukk up :russ: I've been posted numbers that back up my talk about Embiid's defense, you obviously missed all the shyt and look like a fool as a result.






:dead: @ You talking about anyone being a stan, you're the same dumb ass who said Rondo was on the same level athletically as Rose & Westbrook, what do you know about anything since you're so off about that.


Towns is a better two way player? You cant be serious, the Sixers don't have any offensive players on LaVine or Wiggins level to play with Embiid, so how are they winning any games? It's because they have the 10th best defense overall on the season BECAUSE OF EMBIID, while the Wolves with Tom Thibodeau and all their talent are 23rd in the league. Towns has a 109.7 defensive rating (Embiid 98.8) which is worse than Dieng which means he's part of the problem on D, he gives up nearly 10% higher guarding them rim than Embiid, yet you seem to think he's comparable defensively. You don't even seem to know what the word "prospect" means either which is just :hhh: Embiid is the better prospect because he projects out to being elite on both sides of the ball, similar offense to Towns with vastly better defense. Towns needs to prove he can play defense for any stretch of time, 29 games would be a nice start, but he's been straight up ass on defense this year.
:mspaintcamumad:I got you in here rantin like a lunatic heated as fukk, you need to take Embiid's dikk out your mouth and get out your feelins fakkit. Yes Oden was comparable to Embiid on defense quit tryna rewrite history and I told you 3 times now to go look at Oden's stats to see the games I'm talkin bout I'm not gonna go thru all that shyt. I've backed up everythin wit numbers dikkhead you the one makin elaborate claims that are full of shyt hypin this nikka up, you haven't posted actual numbers to support the bullshyt you been sayin I keep destroyin that garbage wit his relatively generic numbers but you keep namedroppin top 10 all time players sayin he them which gives you a L by default.:sas1: YOU'RE talkin bout your own stupid ass opinion you have no numbers it's sad that you not trollin and are dead serious wit this nonsense, you can't prove a damn thing about Embiid yet are demandin I do your research for you no bytch look it up yourself its right there in his stats.:francis:

You provin you a idiot jumpin up and down like a sissy in this thread screamin "THEY GOT THE BEST DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE SOLELY BECAUSE OF HIM!" which you can't back up but none of those stats are translatin to wins they 12 games below 500, like I said they not in tank mode anymore so they give a shyt but they still trash. The Wolves were in the lottery 2 years ago jackass you callin them a disappointment like you expected them to be contenders when LaVine and Wiggins are the only other good players showin how stupid you are:pachaha:you namin these other cats on the Wolves like they superstars the Sixers got a bunch of top big men from the last few drafts that yall were sayin are great but now that yall team is still garbage you wanna downplay them and make Embiid look better.

:ufdup:No moron you the one beggin for the numbers and I told you off the rip I wasn't diggin thru his stats YOU either get the stats or shut the fukk up I don't have shyt to prove to you bytch:pacspit:you haven't posted anythin that backs up the wild shyt you sayin about Embiid you just got finished claimin he was Shaq again and I obliterated that point by tellin your dikkridin ass that Shaq was puttin up all time great numbers while ya boy ain't even averagin a double double thru the 29 games you excited about:shaq2:but you ignored that poinit like you dodged several things I said that made you look like a fool.

:mjlol:So that explains why you so overly emotional you still butthurt about some shyt I said years ago that had you in your feelins just like you are wit Embiid, everyone knows you a stan fakkit you think you the authority on all things Point Guard related and stay gettin angry when someone disagrees wit your off the mark bullshyt. The fact you tryna project wit that "NO YOU'RE A STAN!" comeback proves you can't refute what I said and I'm not even a Rondo fan like that so you claimin I'm his stan just cause I said somethin you don't like is desperate and proves my point about your standom:sas2:but Rondo has highlights that showed the same athleticism Rose and Westbrook displayed he just rarely uses it so your dumbass thinks he not on that level cause you never seen it. Thats just one more thing you didn't do your research on, but I'm not lettin your stan ass deflect and turn this into yet another Point Guard rant that you always have on here.:stopitslime:

They aren't winnin any games they 12 games under 500 once again you actin like they in the playoff hunt, Towns is a better 2 way player his numbers back that up you can't bring up individual numbers to dispute that so you tryna hide behind the team record and give all the credit for any Sixers wins to Embiid without any proof to support you sayin its because of him alone which is why its laughable you were claimin you have cold hard numbers.:whythefukkyoulyin: You behavin like a textbook stan makin over the top dikkrider statements about the latest player you slurpin and downtalkin his competition by tryna give credit to everyone but Towns for any success they have, and there you go rushin for the analytics when you have no real stats to use in true stan fashion thats always what you guys do when you're backed into a corner. You don't know what the word prospect means just like the word "literally":michaeljordanlaugh:you think prospects are simply about analytics cause the league is big on that now which is why you sayin a injury plagued guy wit inferior numbers who only played 29 games is a better prospect than the guy who was drafted a year later and has played more games "literally" playin every game since then. You gotta stay healthy to be elite at all and he doesn't project out to do that wit only 29 games in 3 seasons:scust:meanwhile Towns is elite on both sides of the ball and has never been injured so he is the better prospect right now. You think that what you HOPE a player becomes is what it means to be a better prospect which is how a stan would interpret it, you ignorin all the negatives about your guy and just focusin on what you thought when you saw him in college almost 4 years ago as if his setbacks in the NBA never happened. Stan shyt.:hhh: EMBIID needs to prove he can play for any stretch of time period, it don't matter how good he supposedly is if he not on the court and you have the audacity to say 29 games is a nice start for Towns when its all Embiid has in his entire career.:larryholmesdoorclosebye:

Are you talking about the season where he went 8 and 6 for a whole season?
Cause embidd averaging double points and more boards breh stop hating
I'm talkin bout a collection of games from his first official season and he averaged double doubles both his seasons in Portland and almost averaged a double double in Miami so I don't know where you gettin that 8 and 6 bullshyt from, just cause I ain't dikkridin Embiid like you don't mean I'm hatin thats a typical whiny stan complaint.:camby:

Anthony Davis & a happy Cousins are just on that next level.

He maybe might surpass them in a few years, he has potential
:kobesalute:Forgot all about Cousins thats yet another player who >>>>> Embiid
 

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@Stack Money oden had 16 games where he had a double double his rookie year and averaged 8 points and 7 boards his rookie season and played 69 games. He only had two games where he scored 20 points or more.

Season year 2 Greg oden had 5 double doubles in the 21 games he played and averaged 11 points and 8 boards and had 12 game a were he scored 10 or more

Meanwhile Joel has played 29 or so games and has only one game where he didn't score double digits breh. Oden never scored 30 points and embidd already did that halfway through his rookie year. Embidd rebounds around the same rate and number as oden' best year. Embidd is having a better rookie season then any recent center you can name on less minutes and less games and he's winning games with arguably one of the worst rosters of the past 10 years and would be as bad if not worst then philly last year if he wasn't on it. Stop hating and give him credit or actually post facts and stats to back up this claim you are making up
 

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Embiid might be the first big man shoe I ever cop, ima be rockin the embiids everywhere :banderas:
 
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:mspaintcamumad:I got you in here rantin like a lunatic heated as fukk, you need to take Embiid's dikk out your mouth and get out your feelins fakkit. Yes Oden was comparable to Embiid on defense quit tryna rewrite history and I told you 3 times now to go look at Oden's stats to see the games I'm talkin bout I'm not gonna go thru all that shyt. I've backed up everythin wit numbers dikkhead you the one makin elaborate claims that are full of shyt hypin this nikka up, you haven't posted actual numbers to support the bullshyt you been sayin I keep destroyin that garbage wit his relatively generic numbers but you keep namedroppin top 10 all time players sayin he them which gives you a L by default.:sas1: YOU'RE talkin bout your own stupid ass opinion you have no numbers it's sad that you not trollin and are dead serious wit this nonsense, you can't prove a damn thing about Embiid yet are demandin I do your research for you no bytch look it up yourself its right there in his stats.:francis:

You provin you a idiot jumpin up and down like a sissy in this thread screamin "THEY GOT THE BEST DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE SOLELY BECAUSE OF HIM!" which you can't back up but none of those stats are translatin to wins they 12 games below 500, like I said they not in tank mode anymore so they give a shyt but they still trash. The Wolves were in the lottery 2 years ago jackass you callin them a disappointment like you expected them to be contenders when LaVine and Wiggins are the only other good players showin how stupid you are:pachaha:you namin these other cats on the Wolves like they superstars the Sixers got a bunch of top big men from the last few drafts that yall were sayin are great but now that yall team is still garbage you wanna downplay them and make Embiid look better.

:ufdup:No moron you the one beggin for the numbers and I told you off the rip I wasn't diggin thru his stats YOU either get the stats or shut the fukk up I don't have shyt to prove to you bytch:pacspit:you haven't posted anythin that backs up the wild shyt you sayin about Embiid you just got finished claimin he was Shaq again and I obliterated that point by tellin your dikkridin ass that Shaq was puttin up all time great numbers while ya boy ain't even averagin a double double thru the 29 games you excited about:shaq2:but you ignored that poinit like you dodged several things I said that made you look like a fool.

:mjlol:So that explains why you so overly emotional you still butthurt about some shyt I said years ago that had you in your feelins just like you are wit Embiid, everyone knows you a stan fakkit you think you the authority on all things Point Guard related and stay gettin angry when someone disagrees wit your off the mark bullshyt. The fact you tryna project wit that "NO YOU'RE A STAN!" comeback proves you can't refute what I said and I'm not even a Rondo fan like that so you claimin I'm his stan just cause I said somethin you don't like is desperate and proves my point about your standom:sas2:but Rondo has highlights that showed the same athleticism Rose and Westbrook displayed he just rarely uses it so your dumbass thinks he not on that level cause you never seen it. Thats just one more thing you didn't do your research on, but I'm not lettin your stan ass deflect and turn this into yet another Point Guard rant that you always have on here.:stopitslime:

They aren't winnin any games they 12 games under 500 once again you actin like they in the playoff hunt, Towns is a better 2 way player his numbers back that up you can't bring up individual numbers to dispute that so you tryna hide behind the team record and give all the credit for any Sixers wins to Embiid without any proof to support you sayin its because of him alone which is why its laughable you were claimin you have cold hard numbers.:whythefukkyoulyin: You behavin like a textbook stan makin over the top dikkrider statements about the latest player you slurpin and downtalkin his competition by tryna give credit to everyone but Towns for any success they have, and there you go rushin for the analytics when you have no real stats to use in true stan fashion thats always what you guys do when you're backed into a corner. You don't know what the word prospect means just like the word "literally":michaeljordanlaugh:you think prospects are simply about analytics cause the league is big on that now which is why you sayin a injury plagued guy wit inferior numbers who only played 29 games is a better prospect than the guy who was drafted a year later and has played more games "literally" playin every game since then. You gotta stay healthy to be elite at all and he doesn't project out to do that wit only 29 games in 3 seasons:scust:meanwhile Towns is elite on both sides of the ball and has never been injured so he is the better prospect right now. You think that what you HOPE a player becomes is what it means to be a better prospect which is how a stan would interpret it, you ignorin all the negatives about your guy and just focusin on what you thought when you saw him in college almost 4 years ago as if his setbacks in the NBA never happened. Stan shyt.:hhh: EMBIID needs to prove he can play for any stretch of time period, it don't matter how good he supposedly is if he not on the court and you have the audacity to say 29 games is a nice start for Towns when its all Embiid has in his entire career.:larryholmesdoorclosebye:


I'm talkin bout a collection of games from his first official season and he averaged double doubles both his seasons in Portland and almost averaged a double double in Miami so I don't know where you gettin that 8 and 6 bullshyt from, just cause I ain't dikkridin Embiid like you don't mean I'm hatin thats a typical whiny stan complaint.:camby:


:kobesalute:Forgot all about Cousins thats yet another player who >>>>> Embiid





:dead: @ This big ass block of text, and overuse of smileys. I skimmed this, I didn't see any stats, no graphs, no nothing just more of your asinine opinion.

How many times you gonna be wrong? You said they at no point had the top defense, they have when he's been on the court, you talk about some "50 game" stretch from Oden and refuse to post it. Where is anything to back up what you're saying, you just repeating the same dumb shyt over and over again, nobody is reading that wall of text if it ain't got some statistical proof.



@Malta


Don't let these dweebs make you say bad things about Towns.



KAT is a great prospect, his defense this year has been horrible though, if he were even average the Wolves would be .500 right now.
 

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:dead: @ This big ass block of text, and overuse of smileys. I skimmed this, I didn't see any stats, no graphs, no nothing just more of your asinine opinion.

How many times you gonna be wrong? You said they at no point had the top defense, they have when he's been on the court, you talk about some "50 game" stretch from Oden and refuse to post it. Where is anything to back up what you're saying, you just repeating the same dumb shyt over and over again, nobody is reading that wall of text if it ain't got some statistical proof.







KAT is a great prospect, his defense this year has been horrible though, if he were even average the Wolves would be .500 right now.
That nikka said ODEN AVERAGED A DOUBLE DOUBLE IN MIAMI BREH :laff::laff::laff:.


U are arguing with a nikka who has not watched a single game of Towns or Embid EVER. A nikka who argues just to argue. Type of nikka I would slap the shyt out of for constantly talking about shyt he knows nothing about.

Stop arguing with that nikka bro, it's making me mad as fukk. And I'm not even taking Embid over Towns.
 

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@Stack Money oden had 16 games where he had a double double his rookie year and averaged 8 points and 7 boards his rookie season and played 69 games. He only had two games where he scored 20 points or more.

Season year 2 Greg oden had 5 double doubles in the 21 games he played and averaged 11 points and 8 boards and had 12 game a were he scored 10 or more

Meanwhile Joel has played 29 or so games and has only one game where he didn't score double digits breh. Oden never scored 30 points and embidd already did that halfway through his rookie year. Embidd rebounds around the same rate and number as oden' best year. Embidd is having a better rookie season then any recent center you can name on less minutes and less games and he's winning games with arguably one of the worst rosters of the past 10 years and would be as bad if not worst then philly last year if he wasn't on it. Stop hating and give him credit or actually post facts and stats to back up this claim you are making up
I never said Oden was a scorer and know he wasn't droppin 20 or more points like that, my point was Oden had a ton of games where he was puttin up double doubles and people from fans to analysts/announcers were literally sayin this is what we thought he'd be in college he's finally playin like a future superstar which is what yall sayin about Embiid right now.

Obviously Embiid is better offensively cause Oden was a defensive player and I said they were equal on reboundin so mentionin that is pointless, Embiid is not havin a better rookie season than Towns which others have pointed out and yall stans can't seem to accept and he's only played 29 games yet yall are makin these over the top overhyped statements about him. He's not winnin games they 12 games below 500 makin it laughable for yall to act like he's carryin them to a playoff seed:mjlol:you can say they would be as bad or worse than last year if multiple players weren't on the team. Stop whinin about me "hatin" just cause I'm not suckin him off like you idiots I ain't hatin on dude at all but yall been on his nuts since College and are goin overboard in here, I've already posted facts and stats to back up what I said yall the ones just makin up shyt and gettin mad when I call that bullshyt out so either quit stannin or get out your feelins.:yeshrug:

:dead: @ This big ass block of text, and overuse of smileys. I skimmed this, I didn't see any stats, no graphs, no nothing just more of your asinine opinion.

How many times you gonna be wrong? You said they at no point had the top defense, they have when he's been on the court, you talk about some "50 game" stretch from Oden and refuse to post it. Where is anything to back up what you're saying, you just repeating the same dumb shyt over and over again, nobody is reading that wall of text if it ain't got some statistical proof.







KAT is a great prospect, his defense this year has been horrible though, if he were even average the Wolves would be .500 right now.
:comeon:You made a long ass bytchfest yourself so you're in no position to talk about my "block of text" I always use alot of smilies and had to type alot just to break your bullshyt down and correct you, you read it you just can't dispute what I said so you lookin for the exit you the one doin nothin but givin asinine opinions.

Given that they're double digits below 500 they clearly aren't great defensively and you keep sayin when he's on the court to give Embiid all the credit he ain't the only one on the team producin so quit dikkridin him, I told your dumbass if you want to see all the games Oden had that I'm talkin bout you can look up the stats but you refuse to do it cause you want to pretend it didn't happen.:camby: I've constantly backed up what I've said you the one wit no proof of your claims and have been repeatin the same dumb shyt like sayin your idol the next Shaq when he ain't had any numbers like Shaq.

I don't have to screenshot stats and pie charts like your dumbass in order to give proof I provided support for my argument you just obsessed wit numbers and can't seem to comprehend words like an autistic fukk so you need pretty pictures to understand what I'm sayin, KAT is great on D:ufdup:if Embiid was Shaq Hakeem and Duncan like you sayin the SIXERS would be .500 right now which is my point.

That nikka said ODEN AVERAGED A DOUBLE DOUBLE IN MIAMI BREH :laff::laff::laff:.


U are arguing with a nikka who has not watched a single game of Towns or Embid EVER. A nikka who argues just to argue. Type of nikka I would slap the shyt out of for constantly talking about shyt he knows nothing about.

Stop arguing with that nikka bro, it's making me mad as fukk. And I'm not even taking Embid over Towns.
I said Oden ALMOST averaged a double double in Miami but I was lookin at his per 36 minutes numbers wit the Heat:francis:

:duck:I been watchin a number of Towns games since last season when he started ballin and I've seen Embiid play several times you assumin I haven't watched them in a desperate attempt to discredit what I'm sayin, so ironically you the one literally talkin about shyt you know nothin about especially since the dikkhead you capin for argues just to argue himself he stay arguin about Point Guards wit everyone on this site. And if you ever saw me you'd shyt yourself fakkit I would beat your punk ass down like the bytch that you are.:pacspit:

I can tell I'm makin you mad as fukk which is why you rushed in to sneak diss me.:umad:
 

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I never said Oden was a scorer and know he wasn't droppin 20 or more points like that, my point was Oden had a ton of games where he was puttin up double doubles and people from fans to analysts/announcers were literally sayin this is what we thought he'd be in college he's finally playin like a future superstar which is what yall sayin about Embiid right now.

Obviously Embiid is better offensively cause Oden was a defensive player and I said they were equal on reboundin so mentionin that is pointless, Embiid is not havin a better rookie season than Towns which others have pointed out and yall stans can't seem to accept and he's only played 29 games yet yall are makin these over the top overhyped statements about him. He's not winnin games they 12 games below 500 makin it laughable for yall to act like he's carryin them to a playoff seed:mjlol:you can say they would be as bad or worse than last year if multiple players weren't on the team. Stop whinin about me "hatin" just cause I'm not suckin him off like you idiots I ain't hatin on dude at all but yall been on his nuts since College and are goin overboard in here, I've already posted facts and stats to back up what I said yall the ones just makin up shyt and gettin mad when I call that bullshyt out so either quit stannin or get out your feelins.:yeshrug:


:comeon:You made a long ass bytchfest yourself so you're in no position to talk about my "block of text" I always use alot of smilies and had to type alot just to break your bullshyt down and correct you, you read it you just can't dispute what I said so you lookin for the exit you the one doin nothin but givin asinine opinions.

Given that they're double digits below 500 they clearly aren't great defensively and you keep sayin when he's on the court to give Embiid all the credit he ain't the only one on the team producin so quit dikkridin him, I told your dumbass if you want to see all the games Oden had that I'm talkin bout you can look up the stats but you refuse to do it cause you want to pretend it didn't happen.:camby: I've constantly backed up what I've said you the one wit no proof of your claims and have been repeatin the same dumb shyt like sayin your idol the next Shaq when he ain't had any numbers like Shaq.

I don't have to screenshot stats and pie charts like your dumbass in order to give proof I provided support for my argument you just obsessed wit numbers and can't seem to comprehend words like an autistic fukk so you need pretty pictures to understand what I'm sayin, KAT is great on D:ufdup:if Embiid was Shaq Hakeem and Duncan like you sayin the SIXERS would be .500 right now which is my point.


I said Oden ALMOST averaged a double double in Miami but I was lookin at his per 36 minutes numbers wit the Heat:francis:

:duck:I been watchin a number of Towns games since last season when he started ballin and I've seen Embiid play several times you assumin I haven't watched them in a desperate attempt to discredit what I'm sayin, so ironically you the one literally talkin about shyt you know nothin about especially since the dikkhead you capin for argues just to argue himself he stay arguin about Point Guards wit everyone on this site. And if you ever saw me you'd shyt yourself fakkit I would beat your punk ass down like the bytch that you are.:pacspit:

I can tell I'm makin you mad as fukk which is why you rushed in to sneak diss me.:umad:


I didn't read a word, no numbers, no graphs, you wasted time typing that up :mjlol:
 

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I didn't read a word, no numbers, no graphs, you wasted time typing that up :mjlol:
:whythefukkyoulyin:You read every word you just have nothin to dispute what I said, :mjlol:@ your autistic ass still lookin for graphs I gave you numbers I don't have to screengrab charts and shyt like you do you can look up the stats yourself if you don't believe me but you won't do that cause you know I'm right.:mjgrin: I destroyed your bullshyt by typin that up you wasted your time throwin a hissy fit to me in the first place only to get served.:camby:

my nikka really typed out multiple titangraphs defending greg oden in the year 2017 to shyt on joel embiid :dead:
:duck:Most of what I typed had nothin to do wit Oden and I wasn't defendin him I was basically shyttin on HIM by pointin out that my comparison was accurate, both he and Embiid were injury prone players who people got hyped about when they started ballin in their first season only for Oden to become a bust cause of injuries so nikkas should pump their brakes since Embiid could go out like Oden. Ain't nobody shyttin on Embiid you just a dikkrider who thinks anyone that doesn't slurp him like you is insultin him I'm just tellin it like it is.:yeshrug:
 

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my nikka really typed out multiple titangraphs defending greg oden in the year 2017 to shyt on joel embiid :dead:
T.I.T.A.N v. DatnikkaJamal was the funniest beef during my 13 years posting on message boards in my life. :dead:
 

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KG v Duncan part 2, Towns will have the better numbers and prettier game but Embiid will have more impact on his team and the better overall career when it comes to wins and loses and playoff success. Its obvious Embiids impact on defense and his ability to still give you great offensive numbers and elevate his teammates level of play is more valuable than Towns 30, 40 point games where he's pedestrian on defense.
 
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