IF ALL AMERICANS WERE SOCIALIZED...

[nineteeneightysix]

Using the Navy SEAL code of "Leave No Man/Woman Behind" will the country be Capitalist vs Socialist?

The whole point of "Leaving No Man/Woman Behind" implies that when one is weak, you will be strong and pick up the slack...

So, when somebody loses their job and can't afford health insurance, they will get a little bit more help to get them on their feet...

Am I reaching too far? Are the NAVY Seals socialist?

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

 

[nineteeneightysix]

What's your counter argument?

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

What's your counter argument?

Fundamentally, I agree. Exceedingly poor execution, though.

 

[mbewane]

Using the Navy SEAL code of "Leave No Man/Woman Behind" will the country be Capitalist vs Socialist?

The whole point of "Leaving No Man/Woman Behind" implies that when one is weak, you will be strong and pick up the slack...

So, when somebody loses their job and can't afford health insurance, they will get a little bit more help to get them on their feet...

Am I reaching too far? Are the NAVY Seals socialist?

When you think about it, what os most people's reaction when say a terrorist group keeps a fellow citozen hostage? Get him free, one way or the other. That "getting free" implies government action and money, usually a lot. But no one will ask what that person has contributed to the country first or say "Can he pay the bill" before saying "Save him".

Strangely enough that logic holds when it's a war situation, but when a person has his health in danger in every day life, that logic doesn't. It's interesting that the emotional triggered is fired for ONE hostage a world away vs but it's not when thousands who also need a life-saving treatment every day around us. I understand we react differently to different situations and are mostly incoherent, but I find that interesting.

 

[Lifer11]

Using the Navy SEAL code of "Leave No Man/Woman Behind" will the country be Capitalist vs Socialist?

The whole point of "Leaving No Man/Woman Behind" implies that when one is weak, you will be strong and pick up the slack...

So, when somebody loses their job and can't afford health insurance, they will get a little bit more help to get them on their feet...

Am I reaching too far? Are the NAVY Seals socialist?

This concept is taught to be used and applied in combat situations, it's not talking about financial situations. Now maybe some Navy Seals as individuals adopt it as a personal philosophy, and would help out a fellow Seal in financial need, that's just being a good friend though. So in summation, the fact that this applies to combat situations, yes you are reaching too far here.

 

[nineteeneightysix]

When you think about it, what os most people's reaction when say a terrorist group keeps a fellow citozen hostage? Get him free, one way or the other. That "getting free" implies government action and money, usually a lot. But no one will ask what that person has contributed to the country first or say "Can he pay the bill" before saying "Save him".

Strangely enough that logic holds when it's a war situation, but when a person has his health in danger in every day life, that logic doesn't. It's interesting that the emotional triggered is fired for ONE hostage a world away vs but it's not when thousands who also need a life-saving treatment every day around us. I understand we react differently to different situations and are mostly incoherent, but I find that interesting.

That is why I am asking the question...If it is dishonorable for Marine to leave another behind, why is it okay for citizens to leave other citizens behind?

If you are a marine, and you have your pistol and rifle, but your brother lost his weapons during a grueling battle, do you tell "well, you need to strap up your boots because there are no hand outs here" or do you give him one of your weapons so he can be as strong as he can be and help you continue to fight...

For me, the "Leave No Man Behind" philosophy translates in every facet of society, and I believe it is more socialist than capitalist...

This concept is taught to be used and applied in combat situations, it's not talking about financial situations. Now maybe some Navy Seals as individuals adopt it as a personal philosophy, and would help out a fellow Seal in financial need, that's just being a good friend though. So in summation, the fact that this applies to combat situations, yes you are reaching too far here.

My argument is "what if all citizen are socialized to live by this code?"

Are you saying that the code is socially impractical?

 

[mbewane]

That is why I am asking the question...If it is dishonorable for Marine to leave another behind, why is it okay for citizens to leave other citizens behind?

If you are a marine, and you have your pistol and rifle, but your brother lost his weapons during a grueling battle, do you tell "well, you need to strap up your boots because there are no hand outs here" or do you give him one of your weapons so he can be as strong as he can be and help you continue to fight...

For me, the "Leave No Man Behind" philosophy translates in every facet of society, and I believe it is more socialist than capitalist...

Yep, I totally agree with you, I was underling the lack of coherency/hypocrisy in celebrating it in some cases but not in others.

 

[Lifer11]

That is why I am asking the question...If it is dishonorable for Marine to leave another behind, why is it okay for citizens to leave other citizens behind?

If you are a marine, and you have your pistol and rifle, but your brother lost his weapons during a grueling battle, do you tell "well, you need to strap up your boots because there are no hand outs here" or do you give him one of your weapons so he can be as strong as he can be and help you continue to fight...

For me, the "Leave No Man Behind" philosophy translates in every facet of society, and I believe it is more socialist than capitalist...

My argument is "what if all citizen are socialized to live by this code?"

Are you saying that the code is socially impractical?

Not at all my comment wasn't addressing that question, just whether the Navy Seals could be considered socialist. As for whether I think "leave no man behind" is socially practical I absolutely do, not only do I think it's practical, I think it's completey rational to the point that it should be considered common sense. It would take sacrifice, but it would make society as a whole stronger and in turn benefit everyone in the long term.

I try to live by that code myself and think that philosophy should be stressed to every child growing up.

 

[tmonster]

 

[Mess World]

Well the navy seals aren't even the best special ops in the US military yet Alone not even fukking with the British special ops who taught the navy seals so I could care what they think

They're arrogant all other special ops censor their faces in photos