If being gay is natural why such a high level of SHAME?

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You just used "standard" in the place of "category". The point remains, homosexuality is abnormal behavior not normal behavior. If homosexuality were normal behavior our species wouldn't have survived. Homosexuals only exist on the strength of heterosexuals. If your parents were homosexuals then you wouldn't be here.
there are standard sexualities
then there are fetishes
then there are preferences

no group is going to be 100% homogeneous, and for every several heterosexuals, there is a homosexual, rather than a skeliosexual or some other little known sexuality
people can recognize homosexuality, what it is easily recognized, and well documented thru history, no one is "shocked" by homosexuality. It's a standard for sexualities.
 

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there are standard sexualities
then there are fetishes
then there are preferences

no group is going to be 100% homogeneous, and for every several heterosexuals, there is a homosexual, rather than a skeliosexual or some other little known sexuality
people can recognize homosexuality, what it is easily recognized, and well documented thru history, no one is "shocked" by homosexuality. It's a standard for sexualities.
You're deflecting by trying to play mental gymnastics instead of dealing with the issue. It's ok, it's just a way of conceding without actually conceding.

There are tons of folk who feel that homosexuality is a fetish. It may be more popular than some other alternative lifestyle but it's still an alternative lifestyle and that's the point. It's not normal like you said. Not too long ago it was officially classified as a mental illness. The only thing that has changed is the politics.
 
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You're deflecting by trying to play mental gymnastics instead of dealing with the issue. It's ok, it's just a way of conceding without actually conceding.

There are tons of folk who feel that homosexuality is a fetish. It may be more popular than some other alternative lifestyle but it's still an alternative lifestyle and that's the point. It's not normal like you said. Not too long ago it was officially classified as a mental illness. The only thing that has changed is the politics.
yeah this is why I didn't wanna start with you
you can't go a few posts without pulling out your favorite buzzwords "mental gymnastics" and "deflection"

me not agreeing with you is not deflection
if you meet someone who is different than just straight, that person is probably gay. It does not fit the criteria for a fetish, nor a mental illness. It mirrors heterosexuality to a tee, in patterns and behavior.

like I said
three standard sexualities
accept or don't accept it
but that's what it is
 

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yeah this is why I didn't wanna start with you
you can't go a few posts without pulling out your favorite buzzwords "mental gymnastics" and "deflection"

me not agreeing with you is not deflection
if you meet someone who is different than just straight, that person is probably gay. It does not fit the criteria for a fetish, nor a mental illness. It mirrors heterosexuality to a tee, in patterns and behavior.

like I said
three standard sexualities
accept or don't accept it
but that's what it is
:mjlol: at intellectual midgets.
 

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another man putting his dikk in some womans mouth/hands/buttcheeks/anus doesn't make much sense either, yet he does it
if getting head from a pretty woman, doesn't make sense to you then you're a fakkit.

if you think getting head from a woman is on the same level as being homo you're a fakkit.
 

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homosexuality is a standard human sexuality tho
either you're straight, gay or bisexual, the three standard human sexualities
it isn't normal, and homo's dont do normal things

heres why it isn't normal

because in alot of homo reltionships whether gay or lesbian, one plays the male role one plays the female role. and this is because nature is trying to correct the sinful same gender relationship. have you never asked yourself why in so many homo relationships one plays the man and one plays the woman?

if it was normal why do so many gay men act like women, all female, flicking wrist, limp wristed, high pitch voice, over the top and flamboyant. you think thats normal?

why so many lesbians try to dress like men, talk in deep voices, and try to emulate men. you think thats normal?

like i said the fact that one plays the man role n one the female is proof its not normal.
 
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it isn't normal, and homo's dont do normal things

heres why it isn't normal

because in alot of homo reltionships whether gay or lesbian, one plays the male role one plays the female role. and this is because nature is trying to correct the sinful same gender relationship. have you never asked yourself why in so many homo relationships one plays the man and one plays the woman?

if it was normal why do so many gay men act like women, all female, flicking wrist, limp wristed, high pitch voice, over the top and flamboyant. you think thats normal?

why so many lesbians try to dress like men, talk in deep voices, and try to emulate men. you think thats normal?

like i said the fact that one plays the man role n one the female is proof its not normal.
being masculine and being feminine have nothing to do with homosexuality being common
 

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it isn't normal, and homo's dont do normal things

heres why it isn't normal

because in alot of homo reltionships whether gay or lesbian, one plays the male role one plays the female role. and this is because nature is trying to correct the sinful same gender relationship. have you never asked yourself why in so many homo relationships one plays the man and one plays the woman?

if it was normal why do so many gay men act like women, all female, flicking wrist, limp wristed, high pitch voice, over the top and flamboyant. you think thats normal?

why so many lesbians try to dress like men, talk in deep voices, and try to emulate men. you think thats normal?

like i said the fact that one plays the man role n one the female is proof its not normal.

Holy fukk. They do different things than heterosexuals. Thats why it's called homosexuality. It's not the same. It's a different lifestyle.

Jamaicans cook rice and peas, Trinis have pellau. Different tastes, different lifestyles.

If your not from my island, my dish isn't going to be normal to you. But it's normal to me.

Whether there's a goal post or not isn't going to change the persons behaviour. Just let it be.

I'm not even going to break down masculine and feminine energy and how it's intrinsic to our DNA. It might actually blow your small mind.
 

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gay men can be feminine or masculine
the gay men that those gay men date will date them regardless if they are feminine or masculine. Because they are men. The mannerisms do not make or break the relationships. It's unrelated.
My point went over your intelligence
 

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Holy fukk. They do different things than heterosexuals. Thats why it's called homosexuality. It's not the same. It's a different lifestyle.

Jamaicans cook rice and peas, Trinis have pellau. Different tastes, different lifestyles.

If your not from my island, my dish isn't going to be normal to you. But it's normal to me.

Whether there's a goal post or not isn't going to change the persons behaviour. Just let it be.

I'm not even going to break down masculine and feminine energy and how it's intrinsic to our DNA. It might actually blow your small mind.
the point is in alot of homo couples one plays a male role one plays a female role because thats natural so they try to be as natural as possible
 

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the point is in alot of homo couples one plays a male role one plays a female role because thats natural so they try to be as natural as possible

That's completely natural and human.

A human male has some "feminine" tendencies. A female has done "masculine" tendencies. This is normal.

We have the genetics to create the opposite sex within our respective sexes.

It's a spectrum, not a light switch. Not many people are 100% super masculine or feminine. As humanity becomes more complex males are going to tap into their feminine side and females the vice versa.

Hetero and homo are just words used to describe incredibly complex, subtle and overt tendencies of an advancing biological species. Think beyond the language of the Western World.

Life is so much bigger and grander than this argument.

And people want to talk about evolution... Get off this topic and start thinking about tele-empathy and extra-sensory capabilities of the human being.
 
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