‘If black men vote for me, I’ll win Georgia’ - Stacey Abrams

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So let me make sure I get this right

Black men are leading the "both sides" "withhold your vote" "no reparations (pie in the sky) no vote" movement and the republican share of the black male vote increased under trump from 2016 to 2020

And yet it's the same people who are against voting (for dems) and actively trying to supress the overall black vote that are criticising Stacy abrams for this comment :mjtf:

Make it make sense
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Even with the other side being bat shyt crazy, do not take votes for granted and i do believe they have with black men. It is the same problem Hillary had that bit her in the ass. Do not assume people will vote for you and not only reach out to them, give them a positive reason to vote for you. We all know the GOP is on bullshyt but it can not always end up just voting to stop them.
 

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I like Abrams well enough but this is divisive nonsense. Black men can vote for her and she’d still lose big. because the white vote is not wavering down there. Biden is underwater, she’s got no chance. Stop blaming this on black men.


This is sorta true but only because we've normalized such shytty turnout in our elections. Since at least 20% of white folk in Georgia vote for the Democrat no matter what, and since a lot of White voters stay home too, Black voters could drive every election if turnout was high enough.

Talking about political control, the easiest issue to get it is to stop being satisfied with Black turnout in the 50s or low 60s. If 80-90% of eligible Black voters went to the polls, they could drive a ton of elections. But that's not happening. It's partly the fault of how elections are run, and partly the fault of Democrats doing a poor job, but it's still really disappointing.
 

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She will lose probably because Kemp hasn't done anything majorly unpopular to lose favor with voters in Georgia recently. He also is the incumbent which boosts him some.
This...He hasn't done anything in Georgia that would get him thrown out. In fact, he seemed to be the voice of reason during the election for the state. Constitutional carry helps black men...The only thing I saw on her platform worth voting for was gambling in the state. I'm voting my best interests and I am not going to vote for increased laws, increased Medicare expansion. Call me Darwinian but naaahhh bruh. These state income taxes are ridiculous and out of hand. No more spending. I don't care about LBGT.
Atlanta is not Georgia and I think this will be her Hillary moment.
 

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This is sorta true but only because we've normalized such shytty turnout in our elections. Since at least 20% of white folk in Georgia vote for the Democrat no matter what, and since a lot of White voters stay home too, Black voters could drive every election if turnout was high enough.

Talking about political control, the easiest issue to get it is to stop being satisfied with Black turnout in the 50s or low 60s. If 80-90% of eligible Black voters went to the polls, they could drive a ton of elections. But that's not happening. It's partly the fault of how elections are run, and partly the fault of Democrats doing a poor job, but it's still really disappointing.
Whites have shytty turnout too, and that is mainly because they feel they can get away with it. When the Black turnout rises, the White turn out will rise right behind it to counter our rise. So in the end, it will again eventually come back down to actual overall numbers, and Voting eligible Whites outnumber everyone else in Georgia by 2 to 1. So no, she was never right about her assertion that if Black men vote for her, she would win. Since even with 100% Black participation, White participation could easily counter it and not even be at 100% to still give the election to Kemp. I am sure she knows this, but rather use Black men as scapegoats instead of actually pointing the finger at whom it should be pointed at, White women.

Kemp is fine with removing abortions, he is also contemplating banning contraceptives. If White women do not vote against him, when they complain the loudest about "My body, my choice" then they are again demonstrating that they have no problem voting against their own interests. To lay the blame at the feet of my brothers in Georgia demonstrates a lowkey disdain for (straight) Black men that the Democratic Party leaders possess. A disdain that seems to also be shared by the intersectional feminists that Ms. Abrams spent a lot of time pandering to.
 

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Whites have shytty turnout too, and that is mainly because they feel they can get away with it. When the Black turnout rises, the White turn out will rise right behind it to counter our rise. So in the end, it will again eventually come back down to actual overall numbers, and Voting eligible Whites outnumber everyone else in Georgia by 2 to 1. So no, she was never right about her assertion that if Black men vote for her, she would win. Since even with 100% Black participation, White participation could easily counter it and not even be at 100% to still give the election to Kemp.

How would they even do that? You think the white non-voters post up outside all the Black polling stations to track how many black men show up and then only go to vote if the Black men are out there?

Black turnout went up in 2008 and white people didn't counter it. Black turnout went up in January 2021 and white people didn't counter it. If Black folk voted more they would have more political power, full stop. Don't hide from that reality with boogeymen.





I am sure she knows this, but rather use Black men as scapegoats instead of actually pointing the finger at whom it should be pointed at, White women.

Kemp is fine with removing abortions, he is also contemplating banning contraceptives. If White women do not vote against him, when they complain the loudest about "My body, my choice" then they are again demonstrating that they have no problem voting against their own interests.


Do you seriously think that white liberal pro-abortion democrat women are the ones voting for Kemp?
 

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2. How would they even do that? You think the white non-voters post up outside all the Black polling stations to track how many black men show up and then only go to vote if the Black men are out there?

Black turnout went up in 2008 and white people didn't counter it. Black turnout went up in January 2021 and white people didn't counter it. If Black folk voted more they would have more political power, full stop. Don't hide from that reality with boogeymen.








1. Do you seriously think that white liberal pro-abortion democrat women are the ones voting for Kemp?
1. Did you think the majority of the White female electorate would vote for Trump? White women have plenty of times made statements saying they are one thing, but the stats come back showing they will vote completely opposite of what they say they desire. So yes, I do think a lot of those 'so called liberal White women' will vote for Kemp over Ms. Abrams. It happens all of the time, hell it happened last time.

2. Yes, and White turnout can rise too and there is no real way to counter it in Georgia since they outnumber everyone else 2 to 1. The point is that her statement was never true, because both sides can easily increase their participation rate. Her statement that she would win if Georgia Black men vote for her was a BS statement considering the actual voting demographics of the state. No matter how much Black men vote, she always had a chance of losing. Her winning was never a certainty, and her using Black men as a scapegoat is BS. So my point is that her whole 'If only Black men would vote for me' schtick is and continues to be BS.

Instead of setting it all up for Black men to take the blame for her loss, she should be pointing a finger at the real culprits for her loss, White women. She won't do that though, because her ideology does not allow her to blame White women for their shenanigans. No, it only allows her to blame Black men.
 

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I don't like Black men getting blamed BUT anyone... telling you not to vote is an idiot or paid opposition.
this shyt is tired, and insulting, and it pushes people even farther. when you dismiss someone's entire viewpoint so carelessly, they won't take you seriously either.

I'm sure no black man could reasonably conclude, after all these years of the same old shyt, that there are better things you can do than continue to play into this bullshyt system of politics :comeon:
 
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