‘If black men vote for me, I’ll win Georgia’ - Stacey Abrams

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I just think they don't think big picture. There are more black eligible voters (just like other races) who don't vote than there are those who do vote. Yet they focus on a small percentage of those who voted, but didn't vote for them.

Instead of focusing on this huge number of people (more than the people who voted) who are not even participating in the voting process. They do this because they are lazy and don't want to look in the mirror and say what am I doing wrong to not be able to tap into these folks to make them want to participate in the voting process.
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Im not reading this thread but are yall dumb? She’s simply saying if black men in Atlanta actually turn out to vote, which we rarely do in GA for non presidential elections, she’ll easily win the state. That’s nothing but facts.
But it is not nothing but facts. The actual demographics of the state makes that statement false to say. She can say she has a better chance to win, even far better chance to win, but to say she will win for certain if Black men vote for her is a lie.
 

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I normally skip these threads because it turns into lsa in reverse. I can’t believe somebody said they won’t vote for her if she has a husband of another race, but you will vote for a white man who doesn’t even remotely care about your best intrest.:snoop:

By the way I’m not in Georgia so I don’t care.
 

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Im not reading this thread but are yall dumb? She’s simply saying if black men in Atlanta actually turn out to vote, which we rarely do in GA for non presidential elections, she’ll easily win the state. That’s nothing but facts.
And what happens if they don’t?
 

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But it is not nothing but facts. The actual demographics of the state makes that statement false to say. She can say she has a better chance to win, even far better chance to win, but to say she will win for certain if Black men vote for her is a lie.
She made the race uncomfortably close because of high black voter turnout in the metro area and surrounding counties. And even then she still received less than 90% of the black males that did turn out (88%). With full commitment she can beat Kemp.
And what happens if they don’t?
Then she better hope white voter participation continues to fall because that’s the only way she will still have a chance.
 

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Like clockwork, them internal poll numbers ain’t looking too good so she’s looking for a fall guy/group :smh:

She gotta get bw up in arms to press black men into voting even though we overwhelmingly vote Dem already
It’s a damn shame that black male political outreach plans in the USA basically boil down to

“give black women political instructions, have them hammer and pressure black men into following those instructions even if their gut is telling them no”

And it works :francis:
 

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She made the race uncomfortably close because of high black voter turnout in the metro area and surrounding counties. And even then she still received less than 90% of the black males that did turn out (88%). With full commitment she can beat Kemp.

Then she better hope white voter participation continues to fall because that’s the only way she will still have a chance.

Yes, so she has a better chance to win, maybe even a far better chance to win. It does not mean she will win for certain. If more Black men vote for her, more White men can vote for Kemp to off-set their votes. More Asians and Hispanics can also vote for Kemp, causing a problem too.

In the end, she is still lying by saying she will definitely win if more Black men vote for her. That sets up the situation later on that if she does lose, Black men will be the easy scapegoat for her loss.
 

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Yes, so she has a better chance to win, maybe even a far better chance to win. It does not mean she will win for certain. If more Black men vote for her, more White men can vote for Kemp to off-set their votes. More Asians and Hispanics can also vote for Kemp, causing a problem too.

In the end, she is still lying by saying she will definitely win if more Black men vote for her. That sets up the situation later on that if she does lose, Black men will be the easy scape goat for her loss.
Kemp’s only base is conservative cacs, and even with them their turnout and participation is falling. Abrams pretty much has metro ATL on lock, which alone can win her the state. Kemp is not pulling in new Asian or Hispanic votes. I’m not even sure why we are creating this alternate reality where low black male turnout wouldn’t be a reason for her loss. It of course will affect her chances and should be talked about. Cacs vote, we need to as well.
 

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Kemp’s only base is conservative cacs, and even with them their turnout and participation is falling. Abrams pretty much has metro ATL on lock, which alone can win her the state. Kemp is not pulling in new Asian or Hispanic votes. I’m not even sure why we are creating this alternate reality where low black male turnout wouldn’t be a reason for her loss. It of course will affect her chances and should be talked about. Cacs vote, we need to as well.
Yes, and that was in the past. Things change, people get riled up and want to participate more. There is no certainties in politics of this nature.

Also, it is not an alternative universe. Did Hillary not have the election in the Bag with all of the polls giving her +10% over Trump? What happened with that? You assuming that White people can not decide to participate, or that other ethnic groups can not change their participation rates is naïve at best.

I don't even know what to make of your quick willingness to accept the narrative that her loss will be the fault of Black men in Georgia not supporting her. I have no clue how you would think that is the main determiner of her success, when there are so many other variables in place that have an effect on the election.

How about instead of brow beating those brothers down there, they actually offer policies that will get those brothers excited to get out and vote? How about they look within themselves and figure out why they have such low participation rates among the electorate, instead of just trying to nag Black men into voting for them?
 

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I'm intrigued by this strategy to use shame and blame to get black men to vote (not saying this is what Abrams is doing, just an observation)
Are black men the only demographic this happens to?
Democrats lose battles in swing states because of the working class white vote. They don't come out blaming them, they strategize and try to build support with that base for the next go round. Same with Hispanics in south Florida.
 
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