if Covid would have happened in the 90s, would we have done better or worse?

[karim]

Technology wouldn't have been advanced enough for the covid vax to come out as quickly as it did,
but on the other hand...Covid conspiracies wouldn't have spread as much as it did due to the internet not being as advanced as it is today.

Discuss.

Better:
a) China wasn't as globally connected as it is today, so flights would have probably been cancelled earlier, limiting the spread outside of Asia.
b) the US had a competent government back then which was heavily invested in global governance and would have taken a leadership role in fighting the pandemic. Much of the disastrous response in the West is down to the US under Trump not providing the global leadership that it used to provide In multilateral institutions.
c) no social media and less political division, so less spread of disinformation.

Covid developing into a global pandemic is epic elite failure and signals the decline of the US lead international order. It would not have happened like that in the 1990's

 

[Gunz&Butta]

Were people less obese in the 90s? If so, there would have been less fatalities

 

[Kingshango]

Better due lack of false information being spread throughout social media and under a better administration. Plus way more people would be scared shytless and would wear a mask and travel less. A Captain Planet episode would also help.

 

[Roadside]

Worse I think? Maybe? Main thing would be stopping the initial spread from China - failing that I think it definitely wouldve been far more disasterous.
HIV/Aids spreads slower than covid and still went worldwide, so despite less flights from China in 90s, no guarantee it would be stopped.
Less chance of making an effective vaccine so quickly so more would've died. No point being anti-vax if one doesnt even exist.
Far less home working so much more people wouldve had to go to work and caught the virus. Near zero chance of full widespread lockdowns being enforceable, Soviet Union just fell - people would be more afraid of "communist" ideas.
Same stuff about it only killing X% of the population and only X% of the elderly and comparisons to flu would be made. Most people arent great at stats, many would take their chances and fail the dice roll.

 

[Justin Nitsuj]

shyt a lot of things would had been handled better back then. Too many soft ass people these days.

 

[acri1]

It definitely would've been better for reasons already stated in this thread, mainly lack of social media.

Crime might've been a little worse though.

 

[Broke Wave]

Yep. Clinton was a great president and was sandwiched in between both Bushes. Dude left the country in great shape after he left office.

We were in better shape then than we are now.

If you weren't alive or were barely alive, you wouldn't understand and that's okay.

Are you open to hearing maybe an alternative version of what happened or are you set in your ways?

 

[RennisDeynolds]

Better Handling by Clinton. Not sure where the medical technology was to be able to address it with this speed, but I feel the world leaders would have been on the same page faster and still thrown all resources behind it.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Are you open to hearing maybe an alternative version of what happened or are you set in your ways?

Alternate facts?

you sound like that fool Kellyanne Conway.

No thanks man

 

[mbewane]

A hip hop collab album telling dudes to put on the mask.

1. Biggie featuring The Lox- Masked On, No Gloves
2. 2Pac featuring Danny Boy- RIde on Covid 19
   
3. Lil Kim- Put Your Mouth under It
4. UGK and Master P- One Life to Live
5. Too Short- bytches need the Vaccine
6. Jay Z featuring Sauce Money- Where I'm Going (First Shot)
7. Wu Tang Clan- 6 Feet Apart
8. Coolio- No Thrills if you Near Me
9. Outkast- Coughing on a Saturday Night
10. Dr Dre featuring Snoop Doggy Dogg- A Vaccine Party
11. KRS One featuring The Juice Crew- Self Destruction 97
12. Slick Rick and Dougie Fresh- The Pharmacy Show

3X Platinum

 

[Broke Wave]

Alternate facts?

you sound like that fool Kellyanne Conway.

No thanks man

I said an alternative version of history, not alternative facts.

For example.

The British would say in their version of history that they came to Somaliland, educated the locals, standardized the ancient Somali language, and eventually gave independence to the locals after defending them from Italian aggression. Those things are all true and paint one version of history.

Another version of history would say that from the locals perspective, the British raped, brutalized, emasculated, humiliated, and most importantly bankrupted and robbed the people of their resources. And in addition to this, the locals would say that they took independence from a failing and collapsing colonial empire system rather than being granted it..

That's the point I'm trying to make. There are many ways to look at the Clinton presidency and its legacy and depending on who you are, you will view the events of that time and the actions taken differently. Chiefly, Clinton was the architect of the financialization of everything with the unecessary and unprovoked wholesale deregulation of financial markets. This among other things led to the 2008 crash and subsequent dystopic future we live in today. So again there are many ways of looking at his presidency. The mass incarceration and privatization of prisons that occured under Clinton is still globally and historically without paralell. No country in recorded history has locked up so many people so quickly. While he didn't begin that legacy, he intensified it along with his allies including current President BIden.

That's the alternative I was trying to offer you. If you're not interested in that alternative recalling of events that's fine.. but don't act like it doesn't exist. Nor does that make me in any way analogous or adjacent to Kellyanne Conway or Trump in anyway.

 

[Payday23]

All Michael Jackson had to do was say “put on a mask, I love you….shamone ” and it’s a wrap

Whole world get rid of the shyt in like a month tops

This right here.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

I said an alternative version of history, not alternative facts.

For example.

The British would say in their version of history that they came to Somaliland, educated the locals, standardized the ancient Somali language, and eventually gave independence to the locals after defending them from Italian aggression. Those things are all true and paint one version of history.

Another version of history would say that from the locals perspective, the British raped, brutalized, emasculated, humiliated, and most importantly bankrupted and robbed the people of their resources. And in addition to this, the locals would say that they took independence from a failing and collapsing colonial empire system rather than being granted it..

That's the point I'm trying to make. There are many ways to look at the Clinton presidency and its legacy and depending on who you are, you will view the events of that time and the actions taken differently. Chiefly, Clinton was the architect of the financialization of everything with the unecessary and unprovoked wholesale deregulation of financial markets. This among other things led to the 2008 crash and subsequent dystopic future we live in today. So again there are many ways of looking at his presidency. The mass incarceration and privatization of prisons that occured under Clinton is still globally and historically without paralell. No country in recorded history has locked up so many people so quickly. While he didn't begin that legacy, he intensified it along with his allies including current President BIden.

That's the alternative I was trying to offer you. If you're not interested in that alternative recalling of events that's fine.. but don't act like it doesn't exist. Nor does that make me in any way analogous or adjacent to Kellyanne Conway or Trump in anyway.

So with all this being said, how do you rate presidents? Or perhaps a better question would be to ask you who you feel were good or great presidents.

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

Dog…just throw away the whole idea of working from home. nikkax would have been roaming the streets

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

If you not a old head, please stay away from this thread. I already see a bunch of goofies posting like the 90’s was sweet

The average nikka knew as much about the Internet as they did about DNA

OJ got off

think about that