Religion/Spirituality If God has a plan for everyone how do we have freewill?

[hayesc0]

So I can change the plan?

Thank you this is one of the reasons why I cant get with religion no one seems to be able to explain it without talking in circles these arguments make no sense.

 

[tmonster]

Thank you this is one of the reasons why I cant get with religion no one seems to be able to explain it without talking in circles these arguments make no sense.

I have already asked twice...no response

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Thank you this is one of the reasons why I cant get with religion no one seems to be able to explain it without talking in circles these arguments make no sense.

So, because you don't know what 'free will' is, you can't understand religion?

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[tmonster]

@hayesc0 ...ask:wuthello:....ask him what free will is

 

[Poh SIti Dawn]

Please elaborate...

Ok.

Every minute or even second, you are making decisions in life, those decisions gear you towards what you can become.

There is a plan laid out, but you don't know what it is. Ideally for someone living in america you would hope that the plan involves money and success, because of our opportunities, but perhaps it doesn't and this is our way of balancing the scale since many others around the world aren't as blessed.

Back to my first paragraph, once accumulating all of these decisions, it will be the final result of your life. It can be bad or good, you can die happy or sad. The plan is there, but since we have free will there is a plan b. And there is nothing wrong with plan b, its part of the original plan I figure. Not everyone can become what they were born to be.

I'm sorry if this is a bit hazy, does it make any sense?

 

[tmonster]

Ok.

Every minute or even second, you are making decisions in life, those decisions gear you towards what you can become.

There is a plan laid out, but you don't know what it is.

So you don't have to follow the plan that you don't know? or can you change the plan that you don't know?

Ideally for someone living in america you would hope that the plan involves money and success, because of our opportunities, but perhaps it doesn't and this is our way of balancing the scale since many others around the world aren't as blessed.

Back to my first paragraph, once accumulating all of these decisions, it will be the final result of your life. It can be bad or good, you can die happy or sad. The plan is there, but since we have free will there is a plan b. And there is nothing wrong with plan b, its part of the original plan I figure. Not everyone can become what they were born to be.

I'm sorry if this is a bit hazy, does it make any sense?

hmmm...well does it make sense to you?

 

[hayesc0]

So, because you don't know what 'free will' is, you can't understand religion?

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Ok what is free will?

 

[Propaganda]

'Free will' and 'G-d' are not contradictory.​

how would you know? you don't even know what god is.

 

[Poh SIti Dawn]

So you don't have to follow the plan that you don't know? or can you change the plan that you don't know?



hmmm...well does it make sense to you?

You don't follow the plan and you are going to hell.

I'm joking lol, let me see if I can break it down a bit more. There's yin and yang, right? Good cannot exist without bad, love without hate, cat without dog (lol). Disregard the idea of a plan, because what's most important is whether you are happy or unhappy.

Remember how we used to make those one things as children? The little fortune tellers that were made out of paper? Well, That's how I see life. If I am happy, then that will open an entirely different can of worms than if I am unhappy, Different things will unfold. These 2 emotions are what decide every moment in life. But beware, just because you are happy that doesn't mean that you are always doing the right thing, and if you are unhappy that doesn't mean you're doing the wrong thing; when it comes to your health.

To answer your question: As long as you are alive my friend! You will always be following someone's plan. Whether it is at work, at home with your wife, or as your family raises you. The entirety of your life is based on someone's plan.

And yes, you can change the plan, you have options. But why change something unless you're unhappy?

 

[tmonster]

To answer your question: As long as you are alive my friend! You will always be following someone's plan. Whether it is at work, at home with your wife, or as your family raises you. The entirety of your life is based on someone's plan.

that was not my question

 

[Poh SIti Dawn]

that was not my question

Oh it was, you asked if you didn't have to follow the plan; I told you that you will ALWAYS be following someone's plan.

 

[Everythingg]

so he makes the plan...based off our choices

is that what god told you the last time you guys talked

 

[Everythingg]

so I can change the plan?

Yep. As in you can change the plan that's for yourself. Right now you're probably on the path to destruction. But you can always change that plan for destruction. Sadly it doesn't look like you will

 

[the cac mamba]

. If I am happy, then that will open an entirely different can of worms than if I am unhappy, Different things will unfold. These 2 emotions are what decide every moment in life. But beware, just because you are happy that doesn't mean that you are always doing the right thing, and if you are unhappy that doesn't mean you're doing the wrong thing; when it comes to your health.

the ability of these religious fools to chalk up basic probability to 'god' is astounding

 

[tmonster]

Yep.

So I can change God's plan?