Religion/Spirituality If God has a plan for everyone how do we have freewill?

[hayesc0]

so the point of those 0-120 years of life which is full of bullshyt for most people
what is the point of that?¿?¿?¿

if he wanted worship he could just be direct
with the capacity to do anything the sacrifice and suffering of life are not necessary

it was a choice to cause/allow life to suffer and then damn them to hell

what the fukk+

This is what baffles me for a perfect supreme being he is more inefficient then kobe has been this year lol and people talk about a relationship with god he has never spoken to me you would think he would be trying to talk to the non believers and not the people already on his team.

 

[tmonster]

because i have free will myself to follow God or not to

that does not answer his question and is circular reasoning, to use the word reasoning loosely

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

If God has a plan for everyone how do we have freewill?

'Free will' and 'G-d' are not contradictory.​

They are if God has a predetermined plan for you.

Giving humans 'free will' and personally ensuring that they stick to 'the plan' would be contradictory.​

Ok what is free will?

The ability of the mind to choose between possible outcomes.​

 

[tmonster]

go to heaven and worship him eternally. I mean point blank that's the prize at the end of the day

no thanks I would not prostrate myself in front of a psychopath-as he has been described to me and in the bible, homey is nuts- I have morals and self respect.

 

[tmonster]

What's God's plan for babies who dies of cancer? or hydrocephalus? or liver failure?
If a mad scientist infects the entire human race with a virus that causes death from tumors at the age of 9 months
to all future newborns, is he a hero?

 

[010101]

This is what baffles me for a perfect supreme being he is more inefficient then kobe has been this year lol and people talk about a relationship with god he has never spoken to me you would think he would be trying to talk to the non believers and not the people already on his team.

it's nuts brehbruh

strip away all the dialogue
and take a clear look at an individuals actions
that's where the truth lies

I can't claim to know god because all actions are concealed and shrouded in mystery
all the esoteric babble is not necessary

what has god done what is he doing what will he do
and how does this relate to my life and my actions

can we keep it clear and simple?¿?¿?¿

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

This is what baffles me for a perfect supreme being he is more inefficient then kobe has been this year lol and people talk about a relationship with god he has never spoken to me you would think he would be trying to talk to the non believers and not the people already on his team.

Giving humans 'free will' and personally ensuring that they stick to 'the plan' would be contradictory.

Like I said earlier, you're just trolling 'believers' now and that's childish......but par for the course here in 'Higher Learning'.​

 

[tmonster]

it's nuts brehbruh

strip away all the dialogue
and take a clear look at an individuals actions
that's where the truth lies

I can't claim to know god because all actions are concealed and shrouded in mystery
all the esoteric babble is not necessary

what has god done what is he doing what will he do
and how does this relate to my life and my actions

can we keep it clear and simple?¿?¿?¿

my favorite is when the one survivor of a disaster is considered a miracle, squat on the victims

 

[Fervid]

Anyone defending God is silly IMHO, but to your question of God's plan for you, it's a very broad answer. God's plan for you is very simple, go to heaven and worship him eternally. I mean point blank that's the prize at the end of the day. Consider ETERNITY in paradise vs 0-120 years on earth. What percent of infinity is 120 years?

The suffering and hardships we experience on earth are minutia in the grand scheme of things. I understand it's difficult to comprehend particularly when you don't believe in God but that's the answer IMHO. You can choose to believe and have a relationship with God and go to heaven or choose not to and don't go to heaven everything else is just noise....

I didn't make a conscious decision to not believe in any gods; I just don't. How's that for free will?

 

[hayesc0]

Like I said earlier, you're just trolling 'believers' now and that's childish......but par for the course here in 'Higher Learning'.​

How am I trolling when I'm taking things believers tell me and asking them what it means and how it works?

 

[tmonster]

How am I trolling when I'm taking things believers tell me and asking them what it means and how it works?

he can't take the heat so he cries trolling, does it in every thread, shyt is hilarious

 

[010101]

my favorite is when the one survivor of a disaster is considered a miracle, squat on the victims

it's like he picks his favorites on some innie minnie miny mo shyt

some lives are discardable some are not +

god does what god wants to do
and honestly if it was presented straight like that I could accept it


but the idea that all this pain and suffering is for my good
or that all this is done with my interest in mind is

it's about gods plan
so fukk you fukk me fukk everyone and everything
gods will be done*

 

[Brown_Pride]

so the point of those 0-120 years of life which is full of bullshyt for most people
what is the point of that?¿?¿?¿

don't know what'd be up to each person

if he wanted worship he could just be direct

don't know that'd be up to God

with the capacity to do anything the sacrifice and suffering of life are not necessary

I've given my two cents on this already but will again say "suffering" as you see it vs eternity, in the grand scheme of things isn't even a blip on the radar.

it was a choice to cause/allow life to suffer and then damn them to hell

what the fukk+

not my call so I wont pretend to understand why it is that way.

Let's assume it isn't that way. What have I lost? Nothing
Let's assume it is that way. What have you lost?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

How am I trolling when I'm taking things believers tell me and asking them what it means and how it works?

You're purposely responding to certain posts for no reason other than to troll/mock/ridicule.

Ignoring them if they don't give sufficient answers would be the mature thing to do and would encourage an actual dialogue.

Then again, this is 'Higher Learning' where trolling 'believers' is par for the course.​

 

[010101]

don't know what'd be up to each person

don't know that'd be up to God
I've given my two cents on this already but will again say "suffering" as you see it vs eternity, in the grand scheme of things isn't even a blip on the radar.


not my call so I wont pretend to understand why it is that way.

Let's assume it isn't that way. What have I lost? Nothing
Let's assume it is that way. What have you lost?

so gods a gangster

fukk the ops huh?¿?¿?¿
shut the fukk up stick to the script or get some hot coals shoved up your ass forever and ever

sounds like one cold motherfukker to me
he ain't gotta explain shyt

he's like I'm god I'm almighty I do what I want

say something nikka I dare you


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