Outside of pure academic and friendly discussions, no one would ever know I am an atheist
Atheism is the noise adults make when people try to shove ghosts down their throats
Religion/Spirituality If God has a plan for everyone how do we have freewill?
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Atheism is the noise adults make when people try to shove ghosts down their throats
Well since we're speaking hypothetically I would say yes. Why? Because I I love God, not heaven. I look forward to a time when I can be with God, regardless of the place.hypothetically speaking that is.
Even if that place is "hell"?
Brown_Pride
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As opposed to?
You ever suffer with and for someone you love?
Would you risk your life to save the life of your kids/parents/wife?
Your life isn't sacrificed if you don't believe...period. I don't see it as coercion as much as I see it as your parent trying to tell you...if u do this then this will happen, but it's still your life you choose. Force IMO would be you seeing someone say I don't believe in God and half a second later they die...that's would be force...sort of.
Rarely do we see the truth in a variety of aspects in life...but the truth is still there existing. Faith is THE major component of following God. Having faith is the effort necessary to earn the relationship...but when you are TRULY trying to have faith and have established a good heart you receive help to maintain your faith.
Brown_Pride
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Well said.
God Almighty
Your Lord
Today I watched an Ethiopian child starve to death. I didn't want to interrupt his free will. Plus his agonizing demise was part of my plan anyway. And he didn't have the right beliefs, so his soul is burning in Hell forever now.
Now go write some shytty Christian Rock songs about me.
Now go write some shytty Christian Rock songs about me.
Amphibious
Land, water, wherever.
Freewill doesn't exist, only the dumbest of the dumb believe in freewill.
Why do only dumb people believe in freewill?
that's still coercion, choice is irrelevant because without it the conversation is not necessary
I have to leave this conversation
none of the believers have the intellectual discipline to carry it out
they would rather do all this dancing instead of just copping to the plain obvious truth when presented to them even in the simplest terms
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ugh....
Amphibious
Land, water, wherever.
Because it's stupid to believe in it.
Listen here, our "world" is like a movie script that is being played.
Think of it this way.
You are born with a particular design of genetics. You cannot change these genetics you are born with. You are born into an enviroment directly that AFFECTS your body and mind RIGHT off the bat that IN RESULT changes how you behave in the future. When you think "I have free will because I am able to move myself from this environment," is wrong. You think that way because it's a survival instinct to trick you into thinking you have 'control' over the situation, but in reality it's all from that time you were born.
nikka wtf is this bullshyt you are talking about I could go buy a gun and blow my brains out right now or I can continue to live I can go to work tomorrow or stay home that is my choice you are making absolutely no sense.
Amphibious
Land, water, wherever.
It's not free choice dummy. Your mindset is BASED on the totality of your life's experience + genetics. That is NOT free will, it is controlled living via your enviroment.