If He Dies, He Dies : GGG introduces Canelo to 160 - The Official Canelo Vs GGG Thread

[FrankyFourFingers]

He's 35 years old, u think age doesn't affect him?

He started his pro career late, and hasnt been in any wars. Fighters like jmm, floyd, bhop were still effective in their mid 30s an they started early. Also you will see heavier fighters fall off slower cause they arent as reliant on their speed as the lighter fighters are.

I dont get that argument. Yeah he is older it will effect him but not to the extremes people make it out to be, but this fight coulndt have been made 2 years ago because ggg had absolute no drawing power, this isnt a mayweather pac situation because both were already huge names in 2010 when it should jave happened. That would have made no sense to make that fight, knowing that it was gonna be the biggest fight in the last couple of years.

His closer fights are do to him fighting better competition, not saying he is a bad fighter. He is a very good fighter, but so is canelo

People also criticize canelo for fighting a 35 year old ggg, but in the same breath praise joshua for beating a 41 year old klitchko

or claim praise on mayweather for beating a 22 year old canelo. Thats like having benavidez lose to andre ward and holding it against him later on in his career

Howd you end up scoring it on your rewatches

 

[mr. smoke weed]

going back..there were a good amount of cats going gaga over canelo doing a lightweight version of what sweet pea used to do EVERYBODY in that fight with cotto..the problem was he didnt knock him down much less hurt him..how was that impressive when he was the bigger guy ..this fight with GGG, someone is a little slower than Cotto, there was none of that shyt...at all..just a lightweight version of what Lara usually does...and i say lightweight because Lara never gassed out from moving around like that

Pat why you so happy? Triple G came through, as the favorite #2 pound for pound guy, and drew with a guy who's not Pound for pound Top 10. He also had trademarks around his eyes, and didn't look great. Oh yeah this was Canelos first fight at 160 y'all better get ready for the rematch.

 

[Newzz]

An you claimed ggg was stopping canelo but he didnt even rock him.

BOTH sides were saying win via KO so the "point" you were attempting to make is moot.

No one talks about the fact that he didnt hit canelo win anything significant aside from jabs and that one straight right. People claim that piston jab was gonna do damage but canelo came out unscathed. Even when canelo tired in the middle rounds he was slipping most his punches and landing the cleaner shots

Who got hit more? Canelo Cuadras or GGG?


Which side claimed the other was too slow and wouldn't be able to hit the other?


Ok then.

How the guy fighting at 160 for the first time land the more significant punches.

That "at 160 for the 1st time" means 0. Canelo's last fight was at a weight that even GGG hasn't went up to yet,


How the guy who was supposed to be "the prime James Toney in the pocket" moving around the ring like Sergio Martinez instead? Why didn't he stand his ground like yall claimed he would?

 

[Newzz]

I mean I was wrong about how much he would move. what else do you want me to say?......I think he fukked up in that aspect, because he obviously had the upper hand when they were in close quarters. I think he just came with in with too much respect for little g and wanted to test his power first. but by the time he realized he could take little g's shots he was already exhausted. but even then he still managed to do more damage on little g than anybody else. I think now that canelo knows he can take little g's shots, he'll be more willing to stand in the pocket next time. that's where he had most of his success in the fight. and surprisingly when he was in the pocket is also where he took the least damage. little g was too wide and slow to land on him cleanly when they were close. like b hop said. canelo just has to focus on the body for the first 5 rounds or so and everything else will fall into place. I was actually surprised how easily he got to little g's body early. but once he gassed, he wasn't able to keep it up. I think being in this war and going 12 is only gonna help him going forward.

When Canelo stood in the pocket and traded, he won those exchanges every time to me. I think their gameplan was to move, bc that's what they seen Brook & Jacobs do, but Canelo's way to victory is Canelo's fight.


I 100% expect Canelo to stand there and drop 2-3 punch combinations in the pocket & then move next fight, basically what he does now. I dont think Canelo (didn't stand long enough) or GGG (didn't go to the body) fought their best fights. I think the rematch, Canelo is going to stand and trade the 1st half of the fight, then move late when he gets tired.


Neither can KO the other it seems, both have elite chins, however I think Canelo (for sure) can out point GGG to a decision the next fight, bc even with him moving so much, I still gave him 5 rounds.



Canelo should be the favorite in the rematch imo.

 

[Newzz]

so you still believe canelo is lemieux status?




canelo would body lemiuex is devastating fashion. that's another classic fight that needs to happen.

Canelo will get another highlight reel KO over Lemieux.


That's still disrespectful to compare Canelo to an average MW like Lemieux

 

[patscorpio]

Pat why you so happy? Triple G came through, as the favorite #2 pound for pound guy, and drew with a guy who's not Pound for pound Top 10. He also had trademarks around his eyes, and didn't look great. Oh yeah this was Canelos first fight at 160 y'all better get ready for the rematch.

read exactly what I posted Smoke..there was none of that footwatching bullshyt going on that ppl went gaga over ..unless you liked that rendition of skip to my lou

 

[Newzz]

Pat why you so happy? Triple G came through, as the favorite #2 pound for pound guy, and drew with a guy who's not Pound for pound Top 10. He also had trademarks around his eyes, and didn't look great. Oh yeah this was Canelos first fight at 160 y'all better get ready for the rematch.

Canelo is p4p though



At the end of the day, the fact is the majority of people know who really won the fight (GGG), so if Canelo wants to erase another draw from his record to clear things up, or he'll have to deal with the fact on his resume, the 3 best opponents he faced say:


Dominated in Loss to Mayweather
Controversial Draw vs GGG
Controversial SD over Lara

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

When Canelo stood in the pocket and traded, he won those exchanges every time to me. I think their gameplan was to move, bc that's what they seen Brook & Jacobs do, but Canelo's way to victory is Canelo's fight.


I 100% expect Canelo to stand there and drop 2-3 punch combinations in the pocket & then move next fight, basically what he does now. I dont think Canelo (didn't stand long enough) or GGG (didn't go to the body) fought their best fights. I think the rematch, Canelo is going to stand and trade the 1st half of the fight, then move late when he gets tired.


Neither can KO the other it seems, both have elite chins, however I think Canelo (for sure) can out point GGG to a decision the next fight, bc even with him moving so much, I still gave him 5 rounds.



Canelo should be the favorite in the rematch imo.

I don't think a KO is out of the possibility, just an easy KO won't happen. Neither guy will go into the night without a fight.
Canelo landed some good shots, but they were never sustained, one at a time and only one or two a round, in the rounds he got them in. If he is able to have better stamina he could commit to throwing more or maybe just by improved strategy.
GGG never landed his biggest punches. Canelo did a great job shutting those down. GGG still landed solid punches that I think helped tire Canelo out and also was a reason he went to the ropes and didn't fire back as he usually does. If GGG can take what he learned in the first fight and try to target his bigger power shots or work the body he would be more effective in huring Canelo.

You are right though, both these guys are rugged and tough. Both proved they aren't going down unless it just gets downright brutal.

And you are 100% right, the slander of both guys is downright pathetic. We kept hearing how Canelo and his body shots, head movement, handspeed, uppercuts were going to possibly KO GGG. None of it happened. Hell, Canelo did about 10% of what he normally does and that wasn't because it was an off night.
Canelo's chin, toughness, and propping up other fighters as being better than him has been used to slander Canelo. Dude is legit. He has no chin issues, he fought the boogeyman and likely will do it twice in a row, and guys like Lemieux would get waxed by Canelo.

shyt, is it so hard to admit both guys are really good and gave us an entertaining fight. If they fight in May we may get a more definitive outcome, doesn't change the fact I will have respect for both fighters after that fight as I did after this fight.

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

Damn

I love the gif's of this punch because of the audience reaction. At first you get the oh shyt he landed a big punch, he is going to get hurt, fight is getting good vibe...but then GGG walks through it and continues to stalk Canelo and the crowd changes to nope false alarm, back to our regular fight.

 

[The axe murderer]

I love the gif's of this punch because of the audience reaction. At first you get the oh shyt he landed a big punch, he is going to get hurt, fight is getting good vibe...but then GGG walks through it and continues to stalk Canelo and the crowd changes to nope false alarm, back to our regular fight.

Look at him dab

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

Look at him dab

It may have been small, but one of the important things during the fight to me (and I remember commenting about it to my girl as it happened) was when Canelo did the Broner behind the back punch during the break and GGG gave him a cheap shot back. We really haven't seen GGG in many tough fights or in situations where he had to show some dog. Versus Canelo he showed he had that dog in him. That was one of the reasons we knew Kovalev had no shot vs. Ward in the rematch. Kovalev went into the first fight talking trash about how Ward did cheap shots and he would retaliate or break his arm if Ward fukked with him. Kovalev didn't do anything back. Didn't do anything in the rematch either and folded mentally when Ward asked more of him. People may love or hate GGG, give him props or criticize him for his style or skill, but the Canelo fight (and the Jacobs fight as well) showed that just because things don't go his way, or the way the fight is going more is asked of him, he won't fold and he will give his best.

 

[The axe murderer]

It may have been small, but one of the important things during the fight to me (and I remember commenting about it to my girl as it happened) was when Canelo did the Broner behind the back punch during the break and GGG gave him a cheap shot back. We really haven't seen GGG in many tough fights or in situations where he had to show some dog. Versus Canelo he showed he had that dog in him. That was one of the reasons we knew Kovalev had no shot vs. Ward in the rematch. Kovalev went into the first fight talking trash about how Ward did cheap shots and he would retaliate or break his arm if Ward fukked with him. Kovalev didn't do anything back. Didn't do anything in the rematch either and folded mentally when Ward asked more of him. People may love or hate GGG, give him props or criticize him for his style or skill, but the Canelo fight (and the Jacobs fight as well) showed that just because things don't go his way, or the way the fight is going more is asked of him, he won't fold and he will give his best.

Yeah he ain't cracking like kkkov. Kov left big bear for what reasons I don't know but given his issues with JDJ he sounds hard to work with and pig headed. Bought in a conditioning coach to make thing easier for him etc. Now he's talm bout possibly being drugged or some shyt. Excuses excuses. GGG ain't with that extra shyt. He says lets do the rematch and lets settle it.

 

[krackdagawd]

When nikkas start talking about running all i hear is "my fighter know how to cut off a ring" what happened to the art of shuffling highlights videos nikkas were showing against Monroe slow footed Canelo had him looking lost out there.

But i forgot this is casual central now

What happened whwn Canelo was gassed against the ropes

Where was the ko machine there

In the later rounds Canelo was in his chest due to being gassed from the movement yet ggg lost those later rounds as well

The smaller fighter is supposed to just play fight night w the nikka right

What happened to ggg body work? Gassed fighter and no bodynshots Canelo right hand is what happened.

Bbbut ggg via ko hes gonna get embarrassed in the rematch so get the excuses on deck now. Age, running, blah blah blah. no excuses vol 3 coming Cinco de Mayo.

 

[patscorpio]

longest reigning champion in boxing today.....that consistency ...19 title defenses...awesome..just awesome...going down in boxing history since I think it will be a while before anyone even comes close to approaching that record at middleweight much less any other division

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• patscorpio
• Nov 5, 2015

GGG

 

[L68]

Breadman GGG-Canelo mailbag:

You guys know I don’t score fights at home. I was at strip club but I went alone. I didn’t score it but I was tracking who I thought was winning and I was able to watch it without commentary.

I thought GGG won the fight.