If Microsoft never wasted time/money/effort with Kinect...

[Rice N Beans]

And didn't they start losing staff members as soon as they went to MS though? They never really had a shot.

They lost the good GoldenEye squad but they still turned out good games post Perfect Dark. Its not that they had no chance you just can't replicate Nintendo magic so easily. Nintendo made Retro Studios into Rare 2.0 just goes to show the power a knowledgeable oversight has. Rare cannot make games on their own.

 

[PS5 Pro]

They lost the good GoldenEye squad but they still turned out good games post Perfect Dark. Its not that they had no chance you just can't replicate Nintendo magic so easily. Nintendo made Retro Studios into Rare 2.0 just goes to show the power a knowledgeable oversight has. Rare cannot make games on their own.

I don't recall you having an xbox 360 to speak on this tho
The original Xbox had a more R rated Conker game
Kameo was a really good game, Banjo Kazooie nuts n bolts was very good but slept on
Viva Pinata was dope
And Kinect Sports franchise has sold just under 10million copies so far.
So that series alone has outsold franchises like Killzone, Little Big Planet.

But I'm sure people will call REALITY a spin

 

[Rice N Beans]

I don't recall you having an xbox 360 to speak on this tho
The original Xbox had a more R rated Conker game
Kameo was a really good game, Banjo Kazooie nuts n bolts was very good but slept on
Viva Pinata was dope
And Kinect Sports franchise has sold just under 10million copies so far.
So that series alone has outsold franchises like Killzone, Little Big Planet.

But I'm sure people will call REALITY a spin

I have a 360 to play on I don't know what you're getting at.

All those games were subpar for Rare standards. Even the Conker refresh wasn't as good due to age.

Anyone could have made Kinect Sports and done well. Its just Wii esque. Guess they still need Nintendo there.

 

[AkaDemiK]

ask this question in a few years

 

[PS5 Pro]

ask this question in a few years

Well supposedly RARE is free to make whatever game they want now, this was mentioned around E3 time
They supposedly have some things in the pipelines dropping sooner than later
I think what is going on is Microsoft is tired of RARE bullshytting
The games they did drop were good, but they wasn't getting the attention you'd expect from a RARE title
Killer Instinct was made using outside companies with RARE heads to help oversee the project
The end result? Killer Instinct
So why should Microsoft continue to bullshyt with the old heads from RARE who haven't done anything SPECTACULAR since nintendo
When they can find more hungry studio's who want to recreate and expand on RARE franchises?

Battletoads and a new Banjo are next, but you didn't hear that from me

 

[duncanthetall]

ask this question in a few years

Why? It's been around for like 4 years already. That's enough time to make a call on it. They even made it required and it still isn't serving any purpose. Bushes, it is

 

[AkaDemiK]

Why? It's been around for like 4 years already. That's enough time to make a call on it. They even made it required and it still isn't serving any purpose. Bushes, it is

I didn't see the Kinect hindering 360 sales....The XO is having some trouble with it, it's why I said ask that question in a couple years...the price of an XO + Kinect will drop....more games will be out and it will look more attractive to those not wanting to cop one this early on because of Kinect + price.

 

[Neil Tyson]

I didn't see the Kinect hindering 360 sales....The XO is having some trouble with it, it's why I said ask that question in a couple years...the price of an XO + Kinect will drop....more games will be out and it will look more attractive to those not wanting to cop one this early on because of Kinect + price.

 

[Lord Beasley]

i really forgot these xthots were soakin cork @ the sight of Kinect Sports. it dropped and quickly wasn't mentioned anymore

 

[BasedPrime]

XO?

 

[duncanthetall]

I didn't see the Kinect hindering 360 sales....The XO is having some trouble with it, it's why I said ask that question in a couple years...the price of an XO + Kinect will drop....more games will be out and it will look more attractive to those not wanting to cop one this early on because of Kinect + price.

But the time/money put into it drug their first party efforts down due to a lot of them being delegated to making Kinect trash. It serves no purpose

 

[AkaDemiK]

But the time/money put into it drug their first party efforts down due to a lot of them being delegated to making Kinect trash. It serves no purpose

That's MS' fault for making Kinect games a priority for 1st party devs that have created great games in the past. Should have created new dev teams for Kinect games (they did, but obviously more is needed). A team like Rare shouldn't be making kinect only games, that's crazy and i'm glad that they can now focus on other projects. I like the Kinect, it serves a purpose imo and if used properly it can elevate games to another level...shyt I love using it to navigate my box, u;m just not into the zumba and kinect sports games as much...but if it's used in other forms of games that i'm more interested in that could be some dope shyt.

 

[PS5 Pro]

That's MS' fault for making Kinect games a priority for 1st party devs that have created great games in the past. Should have created new dev teams for Kinect games (they did, but obviously more is needed). A team like Rare shouldn't be making kinect only games, that's crazy and i'm glad that they can now focus on other projects. I like the Kinect, it serves a purpose imo and if used properly it can elevate games to another level...shyt I love using it to navigate my box, u;m just not into the zumba and kinect sports games as much...but if it's used in other forms of games that i'm more interested in that could be some dope shyt.

I love the lean feature in BF4

 

[AkaDemiK]

I love the lean feature in BF4

oh shyt...I forgot about that...dope feature

 

[duncanthetall]

That's MS' fault for making Kinect games a priority for 1st party devs that have created great games in the past. Should have created new dev teams for Kinect games (they did, but obviously more is needed). A team like Rare shouldn't be making kinect only games, that's crazy and i'm glad that they can now focus on other projects. I like the Kinect, it serves a purpose imo and if used properly it can elevate games to another level...shyt I love using it to navigate my box, u;m just not into the zumba and kinect sports games as much...but if it's used in other forms of games that i'm more interested in that could be some dope shyt.

Like how? How is it going to be incorporated into core games to make them actually better? Its been 4 years and we haven't seen a single instance.