If Obama campaigns for Hillary will African Americans fall for it?

[Prince.Skeletor]

Say what you will about Obama, dude has avoided multiple major conflicts that we'd be knee deep in with a McCain or Romney presidency. But I'm not sure Hillary will avoid this stuff. She seems bent on proving that she is "strong."

yall gonna be missing Obama in a couple years...

Missing Obama?
Bro, in 20 years from now Obama will simply be known as the first black president.
That's it! He has had zero milestones during his presidency

 

[Truth200]

Missing Obama?
Bro, in 20 years from now Obama will simply be known as the first black president.
That's it! He has had zero milestones during his presidency

I don't wan't people talking down on Obama in my thread because if Hillary wins we will be begging for Obama back.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Missing Obama?
Bro, in 20 years from now Obama will simply be known as the first black president.
That's it! He has had zero milestones during his presidency

If you think the ACA isn't a milestone you're dumb. It'll be the basis of single payer universal healthcare in the coming years.

Not to mention the fact that the country recovered decently from a great recession during his tenure. He'll be fine.

 

[Truth200]

What type of question is this. Black people are going to vote for Hillary regardless of what Obama does. Republicans have spent 7 years saying slick ignorant shyt about black people, yall think we're suddenly going to give them a shot? Yall falling for Rand Paul's shyt after he said he wouldn't have voted for the CRA?

fukkoutahere. Black people are stuck with democrats unfortunately because there is no alternative. In fact I think the country is stuck with democrats because there is no alternative, hence why Hillary will win. Whoever the GOP trots out will be some backward extremist who turns off young people, women, blacks, Hispanics, Arabs, etc etc etc. Everybody except old white people.

But if Barry's approval ratings are still low in 2016 he might get the Bush treatment and be asked to stay away lol.

@DEAD7 waiting and requesting for your response to this post.....

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

If you think the ACA isn't a milestone you're dumb. It'll be the basis of single payer universal healthcare in the coming years.

Not to mention the fact that the country recovered decently from a great recession during his tenure. He'll be fine.

Bro I live in Canada
We have single Payer Univ. healthcare here, and.......... IT SUCKS!!!!
Don't debate with me on this, I live under the system that you seem to want, I have first hand experience throughout my life living under such a system, all you got is what MSNBC tells you.

Costs will go up & quality will go down, and I mean overall quality from lineups, to time to seek a specialist, to costs to the quality of the medical professional, the nurses, the entire staff and a long healthy life and so and so forth.
You know univ healthcare is? It's free healthcare once you are at the edge, which means ZERO preventive care, have kidney failure only then get finally access to a kidney specialist.

You do not want this system in a country even MORE infested than Canada with massive special interest groups from insurance monopolies to the pharmaceutical industrial complex.
That is NOT the life that you want!

All the rich people will go to private centers, don't be stupid.

 

[Truth200]

Bro I live in Canada
We have single Payer Univ. healthcare here, and.......... IT SUCKS!!!!
Don't debate with me on this, I live under the system that you seem to want, I have first hand experience throughout my life living under such a system, all you got is what MSNBC tells you.

Costs will go up & quality will go down, and I mean overall quality from lineups, to time to seek a specialist, to costs to the quality of the medical professional, the nurses, the entire staff and a long healthy life and so and so forth.
You know univ healthcare is? It's free healthcare once you are at the edge, which means ZERO preventive care, have kidney failure only then get finally access to a kidney specialist.

You do not want this system in a country even MORE infested than Canada with massive special interest groups from insurance monopolies to the pharmaceutical industrial complex.
That is NOT the life that you want!

All the rich people will go to private centers, don't be stupid.

I tend to agree with this because people on Medicaid here have alot better insurance than you do.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Bro I live in Canada
We have single Payer Univ. healthcare here, and.......... IT SUCKS!!!!
Don't debate with me on this, I live under the system that you seem to want, I have first hand experience throughout my life living under such a system, all you got is what MSNBC tells you.

Costs will go up & quality will go down, and I mean overall quality from lineups, to time to seek a specialist, to costs to the quality of the medical professional, the nurses, the entire staff and a long healthy life and so and so forth.
You know univ healthcare is? It's free healthcare once you are at the edge, which means ZERO preventive care, have kidney failure only then get finally access to a kidney specialist.

You do not want this system in a country even MORE infested than Canada with massive special interest groups from insurance monopolies to the pharmaceutical industrial complex.
That is NOT the life that you want!

All the rich people will go to private centers, don't be stupid.

use anecdotal evidence brehs

the US has one of the most inefficient healthcare systems in the developed world, and the ACA is beginning to fix that. Costs are going down, hospitals are being forced to modernize, etc. The law isn't perfect, but neither was Medicare or Social Security when they were first passed; black people weren't allowed to benefit from SS initially. Expect the law to get better and be morphed into Medicare for all at some point. It was always a trojan horse.

 

[acri1]

Bro I live in Canada

*makes note to disregard opinion on American politics*

So basically you have no idea what the American healthcare system is like for people who have no insurance. Well as somebody who has been without it, I can tell you that I'd much rather wait to see a doctor or specialist than not be able to see a doctor at all outside of the ER.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

use anecdotal evidence brehs

the US has one of the most inefficient healthcare systems in the developed world, and the ACA is beginning to fix that. Costs are going down, hospitals are being forced to modernize, etc. The law isn't perfect, but neither was Medicare or Social Security when they were first passed; black people weren't allowed to benefit from SS initially. Expect the law to get better and be morphed into Medicare for all at some point. It was always a trojan horse.

You are a Trojan horse!

First of all you do not understand the term "anecdotal evidence" it seems.
anecdotal evidence is to use short events or claims as an example of what may happen and usually involves a lot of generalization and cherry picked examples, that is the meaning of anecdotal evidence.

What I gave you is an example of living under years of first payer univ healthcare and living around an entire country, where I moved a lot so saw a lot, that's not short cherry picked example. Then I topped it off with how the U.S. would be even an even worse breeding ground for corporate corruption.

LOL at this fool saying "The ACA is begginig to fix that". Spoken like a true ultra-partisan politician!!

*makes note to disregard opinion on American politics*
So basically you have no idea what the American healthcare system is like for people who have no insurance. Well as somebody who has been without it, I can tell you that I'd much rather wait to see a doctor or specialist than not be able to see a doctor at all outside of the ER.

Lived in U.S. too breh.
I work in IT for a major manufacturer, worked for other manufacturers too. When you work for IT manufactuers you tend to get moved around with many manufacturers, like from HP to Dell to Cisco To Palto Alto to extreme networks, aruba and so on.
Having a career life like that will have you moving around quite a bit between Canada and the U.S.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

Why you say that?

If Sarah Palin is running then it don't matter who Obama stumps for they ain't voting for Palin regardless.

 

[Piff Perkins]

You are a Trojan horse!

First of all you do not understand the term "anecdotal evidence" it seems.
anecdotal evidence is to use short events or claims as an example of what may happen and usually involves a lot of generalization and cherry picked examples, that is the meaning of anecdotal evidence.

What I gave you is an example of living under years of first payer univ healthcare and living around an entire country, where I moved a lot so saw a lot, that's not short cherry picked example. Then I topped it off with how the U.S. would be even an even worse breeding ground for corporate corruption.

LOL at this fool saying "The ACA is begginig to fix that". Spoken like a true ultra-partisan politician!!

First off there are already differences between Canada's system and what the US will ultimately have. One could argue that Medicaid is already better than some Canadian services. And yes, it is anecdotal because I know people who haven't had any problems with Canada's system - yet I'm not going to bring them up to prove shyt.

Canada doesn't have the most effective single payer system. The advantage the US will have is that the system is already in place for the transition: Medicaid and Medicare. I expect them to become the main insurances. The ACA increased the reimbursement rates for Medicaid which has led to more hospitals accepting it. I'd expect that to continue.

 

[Yapdatfool]

I tend to agree with this because people on Medicaid here have alot better insurance than you do.

The best insurance I ever had

 

[Poitier]

@Piff Perkins you might be the most on The Coli

 

[Piff Perkins]

@Piff Perkins you might be the most on The Coli

impressive argument breh

 

[DEAD7]

@DEAD7 waiting and requesting for your response to this post.....

I plan to vote for the libertarian candidate...
...and offer no defense for the GoP.
In fact I hope the republican party collapses completely here in the near future...