If Obama campaigns for Hillary will African Americans fall for it?

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Hillary hasn't impressed me so far at all but if she's running against a fukktard republican candidate I might be a sucker for love and but that check mark next to her name come voting day.

I don't feel inclusive with the GOP or conservatives and no one, so as a black man I feel stupid voting for them or supporting them.

After Obama, I can't really and truly look at a white politician the same...biden barely slides by

 

[Kritic]

Are you trolling breh? Obama never used the race card unless you're saying acknowledging you're black=playing the race card. Are you a cac, no offense...

The fact that Obama dodged the Wright megaton with a speech was pure black excellence, I don't care what you think about Obama the president/corporatist, you gotta respect that. He didn't back down, he instead basically said "my white grandmother said racist shyt and so do all your grandparents, stop acting like I'm the only person who knows older people with questionable views."

Hillary lost plain and simple. I was there, her team didn't understand the rules and got destroyed.

The banks would have been fine with all three of the candidates (Obama, Hillary, McCain), let's be real.

barack campaign used the race card against bill clinton.. when clinton said something to the effect of barack being the guy bringing them tea
bill clinton is a certified g and he can say whatever he wants but what he said was spun to say something else.
what he said about thhis grandmother wasnt racist imo.

hillary got destroyed cause there's just simply no rules. and when the establishment has made up their mind there's nothing you can do about it.

and yes all the final contestants are all puppets.

 

[Truth200]

After Obama, I can't really and truly look at a white politician the same...biden barely slides by

Like it's not all bread & circuses anyway...

 

[Piff Perkins]

I'm sorry but if you don't think there was a racial component to Bill Clinton telling Teddy Kennedy that "x years ago this guy would be getting us coffee" I dunno what to say.

"A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee," the former president told the liberal lion from Massachusetts, according to the gossipy new campaign book, "Game Change."

The book says Kennedy was deeply offended and recounted the conversation to friends with fury.

After Kennedy sided with Obama, Clinton reportedly griped, "the only reason you are endorsing him is because he's black. Let's just be clear."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...ama-coffee-years-game-change-article-1.197492

 

[Kritic]

I'm sorry but if you don't think there was a racial component to Bill Clinton telling Teddy Kennedy that "x years ago this guy would be getting us coffee" I dunno what to say.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...ama-coffee-years-game-change-article-1.197492

no it's not. he was simply saying someone with the level of experience as barack didn't belong in that league at the time.

sure if your looking for racist comments it can be twisted to be racist.

imo it's ridiculous spending time talking about bill clinton being racist. in that case then all white ppl.. even black ppl say racist shyt all the time or one point in their life... does that make them racist


look at the big picture.

other ppl have said worse and they're not racist @BarNone

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Qadaffi didn't have anyone's interests in mind except his own. Stop falling for dictators brehs. I didn't support attacking Libya (let them fight their own civil war) but let's not act like Qadaffi was some saint.

The problem about Hillary...is the messages she sends. She thinks laughing about Qadaffi's death is a sign of strength. Likewise, she praises war criminal Henry Kissinger as being a "realist with good ideas"...again, sending messages. I don't get it. Her base doesn't even want war, she doesn't need to sabre rattle to win the election...so why is she? Because she's a legit hawk, brehs. Remember in 2008 when she couldn't even logically explain her vote for the Iraq war, and Obama kept hammering her? She couldn't because she sincerely believed we should have attacked Iraq, and probably thinks we should still have troops there.

Say what you will about Obama, dude has avoided multiple major conflicts that we'd be knee deep in with a McCain or Romney presidency. But I'm not sure Hillary will avoid this stuff. She seems bent on proving that she is "strong."

yall gonna be missing Obama in a couple years...

I keep telling people this but they're not listening...if these cats could fathom what this country would look like if Romney or McCain won those elections

 

[Truth200]

no it's not. he was simply saying someone with the level of experience as barack didn't belong in that league at the time.

sure if your looking for racist comments it can be twisted to be racist.

imo it's ridiculous spending time talking about bill clinton being racist. in that case then all white ppl.. even black ppl say racist shyt all the time or one point in their life... does that make them racist

Fair point...

 

[Fat Kevin]

Hillary will get the black vote either way, do you really think we're gonna vote for Rand Paul?

That being said, I hope a real liberal like Bernie Sanders wins the primary.

 

[Piff Huxtable]

Brian Schweitzer 2016

 

[Jello Biafra]

I'm sorry but if you don't think there was a racial component to Bill Clinton telling Teddy Kennedy that "x years ago this guy would be getting us coffee" I dunno what to say.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...ama-coffee-years-game-change-article-1.197492

Neophytes in politics like a junior Senator get the same treatment that a rookie footballer player gets. When you first show up to camp you are carrying the vets pads and shyt like that and politicians are the same way. They treat newbies like newbies.
But in 2008 you couldn't do anything but blow kisses at Barack Obama or you were turned into a racist. The shyt was ridiculous.

 

[Truth200]

Neophytes in politics like a junior Senator get the same treatment that a rookie footballer player gets. When you first show up to camp you are carrying the vets pads and shyt like that and politicians are the same way. They treat newbies like newbies.
But in 2008 you couldn't do anything but blow kisses at Barack Obama or you were turned into a racist. The shyt was ridiculous.

Maybe your analogy is off a bit here...

 

[Self_Born7]

If people didnt learn from the first mistake, simply voting strictly for the color of skin, now voting for hillary b/c she's a woman..

 

[No1]

I am still cracking up that so many Obama Stans are still holding a grudge against Hillary for having the nerve to actually put up a fight in 2008.
That shyt was a long time ago and there isn't a lick of difference in policy terms between the two of them so all this anger seems like a misplaced waste of time.

Nah, there are pretty clear foreign policy differences. Hillary is a straight up interventionist that believes the US should dictate to the world. Obama and Biden are the reason the US isn't even MORE heavily embroiled in shyt.

 

[ltheghost]

I don't care if Jesus comes back and says vote for the bytch...I'm not voting for her. She will start WW3. And that is a promise. Arrogant ass has something to prove and she is going to get people killed trying to prove she belongs. And no I'm not voting for a racist ass Republican either. I'm just going to keep my vote local, school milage or some shyt, but I'm not voting for her no matter what.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

I hope runs just to see what Barack would do. He's not gonna endorse Hillary with his VP running would he? He'd probably say positive things about both and then defer to saying he supports whoever America votes for or something.

Personally, I'd love to see Bernie Sanders make moves but the recent interviews with him showed that even he acknowledged he'd be facing a steep uphill battle and definitely wouldn't have the infrastructure to run as an Independent. Pretty much no one does anyway. I respect Bernie thoroughly and think he'd do a very good job in the Oval Office but he's not winning the nomination unless A) A miracle happens akin to Jesse Ventura's election B) Hillary doesnt run and he legitimately beats someone out C) The R's make a back-room deal to have Hillary not run so they can get the office back and want Bernie up there as a sacrificial lamb candidate. I don't think the R's would take that risk though this time around

I refuse to vote for any Clinton or any Bush for the rest of time, and I encourage others to follow suit. This isn't a damn monarchy. I'll vote third party or stay home over that. I also plan on voting against Hillary in the primaries here like I did in 08 just on principle and because I believed an Obama presidency was an important precedent to set a new era in America regardless of how good or bad he would actually be (yes im white).

@Piff Perkins for knowing your shyt. Ive been in the trenches for years as well and it gets far dirtier than people think, dirtier than even most of the people who already think its dirty. It makes me swing from very interested to completely apathetic in politics and back. I dont know how some of these life-time people do it..they gotta be addicted to it