Interesting.
If the Moors never Civilized Europe, would Systematic White Supremacy exist?
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O ou ver ap nybody ost n his ite.....eing erious
Marvel
Psalm 149:5-9
Well, maybe not the Mande directly since they were further west but people within the Mali empire were taken by Arabs further inland. The ones on the coast were traded by rival tribes.
This is the dynamic of Liberia:
Native Liberians were being oppressed by the Americo Liberians who came an established the nation we know of being Liberia today. It wasn't in the sense of slavery or lynching, but denying natives to do things such as get jobs, get eductions, etc. Because Natives were deemed "Uncivilized". Once Natives began to accept the American Culture things got a tad better but still there was the dynamic where in a situation for example if you had an "African NAme" you would be denied opportunities such as college, so you had many natives take on American names and such.
Now all during this Liberia was becoming a world economic power, and Pan Africanism was big (it was literally birthed in Liberia, look up Edward Blayden). Around the time of the Cold War , Liberia began to distance its self from the USA, since it was booming economically, for example Liberia cut ties with Israel because it did not support what was going on with them and I believe Egypt during the time.
Being that Liberia was becoming independent the USA was afraid Liberia would start to side with the Soviets, which was not the case. So the US popped off the first Coupe in which they funded some rebels and also sent in some CIA cats who murked the Present (President Tolbert, who was an Americo Liberian as were all prior presidents. the USA put Samuel Doe in Power who was of an indigenous tribe, and they did the whole "The Americo Liberians oppressed you so support Doe" agenda. Now with Doe in power I believe he began to show favoritism to his tribe which was I think the Krahn tribe, and dude was wild corrupt, so the USAs plan pretty much Backfired. The USA then broke Charles Taylor out of prison (he was in prison in Boston for something I forget) and funded him and some rebels to take out Doe, they also had Charles Taylor on CIA payroll because they used him to spy on Ghadaffi (Ghadaffi trained Charles Taylor), but when Charles Taylor got in power he starting going ham and was wild corrupt also.
That said, I cant say one native group oppressed others, my Tribe was in the interior so they weren't that accessible to the Whites to be trading slaves, if anything I would assume my tribe would have been the people getting kidnapped and sold by the tribes closer to the coast.
Another interesting Fact, where my mom went to School at was on the coast, and every day she would see the castles or where they call em where they round the slaves up before sending them off to the Western World.
Arabs had no involvement in the Trans-Sahara Trade. It was controlled by the Sudanese(West African) and Berbers were used as vessels. Slaves were a low commodity exported by the Mali Empire. Mostly gold, salt and ivory. Any slaves were mostly local or sometimes imports in the Mali Empire.
Arab slave trade though was more booming in East Africa, where Muslim Africans were taking non-Muslim Africans more inland and selling them to Arabs.
Marvel
Psalm 149:5-9
This is the dynamic of Liberia:
Native Liberians were being oppressed by the Americo Liberians who came an established the nation we know of being Liberia today. It wasn't in the sense of slavery or lynching, but denying natives to do things such as get jobs, get eductions, etc. Because Natives were deemed "Uncivilized". Once Natives began to accept the American Culture things got a tad better but still there was the dynamic where in a situation for example if you had an "African NAme" you would be denied opportunities such as college, so you had many natives take on American names and such.
Now all during this Liberia was becoming a world economic power, and Pan Africanism was big (it was literally birthed in Liberia, look up Edward Blayden). Around the time of the Cold War , Liberia began to distance its self from the USA, since it was booming economically, for example Liberia cut ties with Israel because it did not support what was going on with them and I believe Egypt during the time.
Being that Liberia was becoming independent the USA was afraid Liberia would start to side with the Soviets, which was not the case. So the US popped off the first Coupe in which they funded some rebels and also sent in some CIA cats who murked the Present (President Tolbert, who was an Americo Liberian as were all prior presidents. the USA put Samuel Doe in Power who was of an indigenous tribe, and they did the whole "The Americo Liberians oppressed you so support Doe" agenda. Now with Doe in power I believe he began to show favoritism to his tribe which was I think the Krahn tribe, and dude was wild corrupt, so the USAs plan pretty much Backfired. The USA then broke Charles Taylor out of prison (he was in prison in Boston for something I forget) and funded him and some rebels to take out Doe, they also had Charles Taylor on CIA payroll because they used him to spy on Ghadaffi (Ghadaffi trained Charles Taylor), but when Charles Taylor got in power he starting going ham and was wild corrupt also.
That said, I cant say one native group oppressed others, my Tribe was in the interior so they weren't that accessible to the Whites to be trading slaves, if anything I would assume my tribe would have been the people getting kidnapped and sold by the tribes closer to the coast.
Another interesting Fact, where my mom went to School at was on the coast, and every day she would see the castles or where they call em where they round the slaves up before sending them off to the Western World.
Death and Hell follows the so-called white man everywhere he goes. He sets up people only to orchestrate his madness through his puppets,
Threads like this are good for the soul.
They only history black people know about themselves is that of huts and spears and Feed the Children that's been fed to them by white propaganda.
Without a history and strong knowledge of self we are homeless vagabonds easily influenced by the dominant culture. Fatherless fukbois in other words.
They only history black people know about themselves is that of huts and spears and Feed the Children that's been fed to them by white propaganda.
Without a history and strong knowledge of self we are homeless vagabonds easily influenced by the dominant culture. Fatherless fukbois in other words.
I think think its good for blacks to subscribe to different schools of thoughts as long as we realize its one group that is oppressing us all.
Mathieu DaCosta was an black ladino Moorish Jew of Iberian origins. He was a Portugese Moor, and his family had lived in Portugal for at least 600 years as the lords of the land before they were brutally conquered, and expelled from Portugal by the barbaric hordes of Reconquista Gothic crusaders, under the banner of the papacy of Vatican. The Moors of Portugal were expelled by 1497, with the Edicts of expulsion and the “Leis de Limpeza de Sangue”(The Laws of the Cleaness of Blood).
The “Laws of Cleaness of Blood” stated that: All Moors and Jews had to flee the Penisula. And that any gothic chretin crusader who aspired to have a middle to high ranking office in the Kingdoms had to prove that he had no Moorish or Jewish ancestry for at least five generations (until the fourth or fifth generation). The laws lasted until the end of the 18th century.
Da Costa’s family was a sea trading family, probably descended from the Muurish Phoenicians of the ancient times otherwise variously called the Cartheginians, or the Canaanites, or the Moors. His family name Dacosta means “of the sea”, that they were traditional sea farers. His name, Dacosta also indicated that he was a blood Jewish Ladino, a Muurish Canaanite Jew like Louis Torres another Muurish Jew, who performed the role of interpreter for Christopher Colombus on his first American voyage. As was his family tradition, Mathieu Dacosta grew up into an able sea man, a maritime trader, and a global adventurer.
Sea-farers played a crucial role in the relief of the imperiled Moors subjected to genocidal criminality by the gang of gothic reconquistadas. Upon their interdiction in Iberia by the “Bull of Toledo”, gangs of Muurish sea men organized to rescue hundreds of thousands of fleeing Moors. For instance, it is recalled that Moorish Portuguese sailor Sequeira had sailed to area now known as Lagos in 1472 with a ship load of Moorish refugees.
Others like the Moorish sea farering families like the Ninos and the Pinzos of Spain (e.g. Pierto Da Nino who brought Columbus to the Americas), Estevanico also known as “Stephen the Moor” the explorer of what is now the southwest of the United States of America, and Mathieu Dacosta, who brought Champlain to Canada, were at hand to ferry the Moorish refugees from southern Europe to the continents of Africa and the Americas, to more friendly shores wherein they could start anew.
Not much is written today about the life of this great black-a-moor ladino jew named Mathieu Da Costa, but the more we learn about him, the more we are convinced that the life-story of this incredible almost impossible black man, must be heard by the searchers of truth, so that much enlightenment, knowledge and beauty can be brought to culture the mental conception of modern humanity in an upful manner.
Da Costa is significant because he is the start of Black Canadian culture and heritage. He combined a Ladino Jewish heritage, with a then vanishing black European heritage.
He was one of the earliest, if not the earliest Canadian multi-lingualist on record. Canada has always been a multicultural country, it is thus expected that Canadians will cherish the history of this great moorish sailor, who typfied everything that Canada has become today… metropolitan, elan, panache, travel and muliticulturalism.
THE FIRST WESTERNER IN CANADA
There is documented evidence that Mathieu Dacosta had been frequenting the shores of Canada on trade and exploratory vogages for many years before he met Champlain, the man who is mistakenly known as the first European in Canada. See Endnotes.
Mathieu Dacosta was so familiar with Canada, that he was said to be able to speak several first nations languages between the coast of Nova Scotia and the Saint Lawrence River valley. The harbours and coasts most commonly identified as places of contact between Europeans and Amerindians are the most likely spots where he would have travelled.
He might also have reached places like Canso, the Bay of Fundy, and up the St. Lawrence River. It is possible that he might have made it as far inland as the Huron country, even up to the present day Ottawa valley. By the early 1600s Mathieu Da Costa could have made trips to many different locations in the service of a variety of Moorish captains and merchant backers.
The Moors of Europea and West Africa were very familiar with the northeastern corner of North America, stretching from New York to Newfoundland and up the St. Lawrence River. The Moors of Iberia and Morocco had long established trading networks in those areas and were making innumerable trading and exploration voyages throughout the late 1500s and into the early 1600s.
PIDGIN BASQUE
One often encounters in this area of history assertions that a certain “pidgin Basque” language had evolved between the “naigres” the blacks and the aboriginals of the Americas which had been used as the major international trading language throughout the pre-gothic conquest Atlantic world. According to Marc Lescabot, a French author, poet and lawyer, best known for his Histoire de la Nouvelle-France (1609), the aboriginal peoples of the Atlantic regions of the Americas used their own language when communicating with themselves but “for the sake of convenience spoke to us in a language which is more familiar to us with which much Basque is mingled”.
This pidgin Basque (really “Afro-Amerindian”) is indisputable evidence of deep and enduring cultural contact between two indigenous peoples facing each other across the atlantics. There is nothing more substantive than language, as proof of cultural contact between two people.
Centuries of sustained contact between the black Moorish Portuguese ladino Jew and Muslims of pre-gothic Portugal, and their brethrens living on the west coast of Africa in the mid-1400s had created a new language and culture, known as a pidgin which flourished all around the rim of the Atlantic, from Africa to Americas back to the coastal regions of southern Europe. It offered a blend of old latin, Arabic, Hebrew, Portuguese vocabulary interspersed with African and Amerindian terms.
It generally followed West African grammatical rules and syntax. In time, the pidgin evolved into a more formal language known as a creole. Creole English, i.e. Jamaican Patois, Haitian Patois, Nigerian Pigin English are derivatives of this former global language.
In this area of historiography, one often hears de-contextualized accounts from western writers about how Africans were preferred as interpreters of those languages by the visiting Europeans (presumable whites this time) in America, without an explantion of the context that saw the so-called negro becoming the arbiter of cultural contact between the visiting whites and the first nation indigenes of the Americas.