If the Seahawks Dont Pay Russell who will?

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it'd be real interesting to see a big name QB in his prime like russ go on the open market to see how much he could get from these QB thirsty teams

that said, seattle's going to cash him out eventually. they pretty much have to
 

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He was just on sports talk radio in NC talking about he's "weighing his options" ...


He's posturing, right?








http://mmqb.si.com/2015/06/08/russell-wilson-seattle-seahawks-contract-nfl/


Three reasons why I think the talks between Wilson and the Seahawks could be in trouble:

  • Rodgers is a baseball guy, and it’s clear he loves the prospect of his players maximizing their value on the open market … some day. As does Wilson. I don’t know what Rodgers wants, but I can assume it must be close to making Wilson the highest-paid quarterback in football. This is a little complicated. The highest-paid player in football today, in average compensation, is Green Bay quarterback Aaron Rodgers, at $22.0 million. He signed the contract in 2013, when the league’s salary cap was $123 million. Suppose Wilson signed a deal averaging $22 million per. This year the cap is $143.3 million. Rodgers’ deal, in year one, was for 17.8 percent of the Packers’ cap. Wilson’s $22 million average deal, if that’s anything near what he wants, would be for 15.4 percent of the Seahawks’ 2015 cap. I only say that because it’s fair to think Mark Rodgers would be taking into account the fact that teams have $20 million more to spend this year, and the cap is only going to go up.
  • Schneider is a football guy, schooled in the Ron Wolf/Ted Thompson way of personnel management. All three understand you don’t win without a quarterback. But Schneider watched Wolf make cold-hearted decisions when needed. He watched Thompson stick with the unproven Aaron Rodgers when the momentarily retired Brett Favre wanted to come back to the Packers in the summer of 2008. Schneider is proud as heck of sticking his neck out for Wilson, but his “we’d love him to be our quarterback but…” statement this spring sounds very much like a man who believes in sticking to the value the team sets for a player, whatever it is.
  • This opinion from Mark Rodgers: “Sometimes, the best deal is the deal you don’t do. For me, there would be a greater disappointment in taking a below-market deal than there would be in honoring the fourth year of a contract.” This is not how an agent talks if he’s thinking of taking a hometown-discount deal for his client.
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Seattle GM John Schneider (Ted S. Warren/AP)
All I’m trying to do is read tea leaves. I don’t know where this is headed. And Seahawks fans, a lot can happen in two years. But I’d ask you this: What if Wilson wants Aaron Rodgers money now, and a deal doesn’t get done, and what if Wilson in 2015 simply does what he’s done in each of his first three seasons—have a passer rating near 100, make the playoffs and get the team in or close to the Super Bowl? What happens then, when the cap will be at least $30 million higher than it was when Aaron Rodgers signed his deal? Let’s just say I doubt the asking price will be the same next year as it is now. It’ll be higher. So that’s a spur for the Seahawks to get something done this offseason.

I would have liked to get Schneider’s point of view on this. But he declined comment when I reached out Sunday.

Many of you might be wondering why I’m writing about Wilson and not Andrew Luck, who, like Wilson, doesn’t have a new long-term deal either. The difference is, as a first-round pick, Luck can have a fifth year automatically added to the contract at a pre-set number, which the Colts did two months ago. Luck will make $3.4 million this year and $16 million next year, and owner Jim Irsay—who absolutely, categorically, will not let Luck out the door—said earlier this year it’s likely the Colts will get serious on trying to get a long-term deal done with Luck early in 2016. Contracts for players taken after the first round do not have fifth-year options. So for Wilson, it’s either a new deal or some form of free agency in 2016.

I don’t often write about contract stuff, and I’m not convinced in any way that Wilson and the Seahawks are headed for splitsville. But I find it a compelling story, and an important one for the future of the NFC’s flagship franchise today.
 

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When has the last time a qb been franchise?..you do that to franchise qbs because you dont want to make them mad and sit out and force their way off the team..

You dont do that to the most important position in the league
drew brees was franchised two years after his team won the SB
 

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Yes. Its a QB driven league and about half the teams in the NFL don't have a franchise QB

Unless you have an all time great defense, you arent getting anywhere with a trash QB

Why do people keep mindlessly repeating this? It's a QB driven league if you have Brady, healthy Peyton, ARod (Bress used to be on here and Luck may be on his way). That's the list. Unless you have an all time great QB you aren't getting anywhere tying up that much money in the QB position either.
 
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I like him and all but nope! Seahawks know that so they're in a quarrel. His stats do not say scream pay him 9 digits. Then him making more than Brady after throwing the pick is crucial and replayed every time they're about to hand that contract back to his agent.

Most of the starting QBs including those who haven't been to back to back SBs make more than Brady so what is your point? You don't pay guys strictly for numbers (if you are smart that is) and it's not like his numbers are shytty. If 3 playoff trips in 3 years and back to back SB trips with one ring ain't enough then none of these QBs should be getting paid.
 

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If your cleve, jets, and buffalo you should not hesitate on giving up those picks
 

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Why do people keep mindlessly repeating this? It's a QB driven league if you have Brady, healthy Peyton, ARod (Bress used to be on here and Luck may be on his way). That's the list. Unless you have an all time great QB you aren't getting anywhere tying up that much money in the QB position either.
You dont need an all time great QB. Just a franchise one.

Flacko and Eli won ring(s) and they are far from all time great
 

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Most of the starting QBs including those who haven't been to back to back SBs make more than Brady so what is your point? You don't pay guys strictly for numbers (if you are smart that is) and it's not like his numbers are shytty. If 3 playoff trips in 3 years and back to back SB trips with one ring ain't enough then none of these QBs should be getting paid.
And that defense had nothing to do with it especially against the Packers.
 

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He's not going anywhere. Seattle is signing him. He wants in the range of 5 years $100-110 million. The Seahawks are asking for 4 years $80 million and to play out his rookie contract at $1.5 million. So in a sense it would be 5 years at $81.5 million. The signing bonus would be for around $17 million. So he might only be making $1.5 this year on the field, but he gets the signing bonus of $17 to come out to making $18.5 this year. They are currently not seeing eye to eye on the small details, but his contract will look something like that. In the end Russell isn't going to play for $1.5 million this year. The Seahawks right know hold all the cards. They don't have to sign him at all and can let him play out this year. Russell eventually will sign.
 

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He can get franchised next year anyways...he wont hit FA.
he can get signed by another team, thats the biggest danger because that team will put a lot of poison pills into the deal which might prevent seattle from keeping him but they would get 2 firsts

:manny:
 

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You dont need an all time great QB. Just a franchise one.

Flacko and Eli won ring(s) and they are far from all time great

They aren't he only ones. The thing is none of those guys were getting paid like that either. You aren't going anywhere paying an average to good QB like he's great.

And that defense had nothing to do with it especially against the Packers.

Who said or suggested this? I'm not saying he did it all by himself. But at the same time you can't just discount that kind of 3 year run and act like he had nothing to do with it.
 

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seattle seems content to let him play out his rookie deal this year, and franchise him next year if need be. looks like they are gonna close on wagner first, and see how much room that leaves them with
 
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