If the universe eventually 'dies' - how can it stay dead forever?

[Unknown Poster]

This reminds me it's time to get high as fukk and watch Carl Sagan videos on YouTube.

 

[TheAlbionist]

Time is just an aspect of the Universe. If there's no universe, there's no time. Forever doesn't happen. Nothing notices.

 

[Ozymandeas]

Prove it

What’s outside the universe

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

idk but im sure somebody on the coli knows

 

[Dameon Farrow]

God

I always found this response to be in poor taste. It makes God's existence into some kind of cheap end all be all when folks feel the question requires too much thought. It's lazy and arrogant.

Suppose God put it in the scientist's minds to come up with the scientific theory they have as of this date. And if we aren't to know God's Plan how come so many are so quick to throw his entire existence out as some base answer for so many of life's questions and wonders.

It's a flawed thought process full of hypocrisy and catch 22s.

 

[Dameon Farrow]

What’s outside the universe

Other universes based on some models. It's how 'mutiverse' works.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

"nothing" cant exist

singularities are not possible

 

[Kenny West]

Right on cue scorned Gatheists and sandpaper vags provide subs but no rebuttals whatsoever

 

[Kenny West]

I always found this response to be in poor taste. It makes God's existence into some kind of cheap end all be all when folks feel the question requires too much thought. It's lazy and arrogant.

Suppose God put it in the scientist's minds to come up with the scientific theory they have as of this date. And if we aren't to know God's Plan how come so many are so quick to throw his entire existence out as some base answer for so many of life's questions and wonders.

It's a flawed thought process full of hypocrisy and catch 22s.

Yet this post describes none of said flaws, just how you feel its a cheap explaination.




God wins

 

[acri1]

What’s outside the universe

The universe by definition is everything there is, so there is no "outside".

 

[Ozymandeas]

The universe by definition is everything there is, so there is no "outside".

There has to be something outside. Otherwise the universe is a floating mass of black nothingness suspended in nothing. It’s like the boundaries of a video game. In real life we know what exists outside the video game is computer code, servers, hardware, chips, cables, and eventually the human world. You’re telling me our universe is just the video game and there’s nothing else

Other universes based on some models. It's how 'mutiverse' works.

What’s outside of them

 

[Propaganda]

As @GnauzBookOfRhymes the two most popular theories are the "Big Chill" (Also known as "Heat Death") and the other is a cyclical nature to the universe expanding and contracting which is the "Big Crunch" theory. Based on my layman understanding of which theory is most popular, it seems the heat death option seems the most likely based on current evidence.

But, fukk who knows. The heat death theory is a depressing one to think about. Also, time is a measurement relative to some sort of change somewhere in the Universe. In our case, we measure time against the rotation of the earth and orbit of the sun. We measure it also as changes of states such as movement (i.e. miles per hour). Something that makes one point in time distinct from another point of time.

However, in a heat death scenario, energy conversions cease to exist. So, I guess, in this case, time also ceases to exist? There is nothing to measure time against. Everything is "dead" and at a complete standstill.

Anyways, you made me google "What is time?" and I found this article where this guy tries to define it.
What Is Time? One Physicist Hunts for the Ultimate Theory

even in the heat death scenario, things CAN still happen, such as quantum fluctuations and quantum tunneling, which could in theory, create a new universe.

 

[acri1]

There has to be something outside. Otherwise the universe is a floating mass of black nothingness suspended in nothing. It’s like the boundaries of a video game. In real life we know what exists outside the video game is computer code, servers, hardware, cables, and eventually the human world. You’re telling me our universe is just the video game and there’s nothing else afterward

I think you're misunderstanding.

I'm not saying there's "black nothingness" outside of the universe, I'm saying that the concept of "outside" doesn't even apply to the universe as a whole. Anything that exists would still count as part of the universe.


That might not be satisfying but it's the scientific answer. There is no boundary, it just goes on forever no matter how far you go there's just more universe

 

[Dr. Acula]

This reminds me it's time to get high as fukk and watch Carl Sagan videos on YouTube.

I need to do this. I got Cosmos, his version, on my plex server still. I might do this over the weekend. I remember watching that years ago every night before bed. It's such a relaxing but mind expanding series. One of the GOAT.

I haven't watched the NDT version yet simply because I had such fond memories of the Sagan one and I didn't want to see something that may not be as good. I heard good things about it but I just wonder if its just as good.

 

[Pressure]

Thanks for reminding me to finish season 3 of dark.