If we being honest Jay is not top 10?

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We need a HoF list (legacy acts that were in the 10 ten historically... Let's stop debating Hov, Pac, Nas etc.. No debating their successes or GOAT level careers/moments

and make a new top ten. Top 5
Kendrick
Cole
Gibbs
Drake (questionable due to ghostswriters)
Etc.
 

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Just outside the Top 10....

His career from 2018-2025 has been pretty awful...

Also too many duds during his prime... Blueprint 2 and 3, MAGA Carter,Kingdom Come, Unfinished Business.
 

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he "won" at life and insecurities about their own "losses"

"is this what success is all about?/a bunch nikkas acting like bytches running their mouth?"

"jay is a real nikka dream/my only goal to make real nikkas feel seen/sometimes it make fake nikkas hate life/never my intention, the consequences of my way of life"
Nah, his music just mid :mjlol:

Tryna psychoanalyze nikkas for not liking his shyt is crazy work though :laff:
 

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Nah, his music just mid :mjlol:

Tryna psychoanalyze nikkas for not liking his shyt is crazy work though :laff:

not liking him because you think his music is trash is fine. My response was to a person who asked "why does he trigger yall?" I think plenty artists music mid...they dont trigger me, i just dont care.

But people who HATE him (not like fans hate but hate hate) or have an urge to see him fail..it aint because Magna Carta wasnt hitting.
 

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not liking him because you think his music is trash is fine. My response was to a person who asked "why does he trigger yall?" I think plenty artists music mid...they dont trigger me, i just dont care.

But people who HATE him (not like fans hate but hate hate) or have an urge to see him fail..it aint because Magna Carta wasnt hitting.
His question was disingenuous

People always try to act like people hate the man but it ain't that serious :manny:

If anything, people would hate him because he's a greedy capitalist who sold out his people for a seat at the table. Thing is, most people ain't shyt either so people ain't thinking like that outside of a few
 

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He is top 10, but he owes a significant part of that to Kanye's production...

Without Kanye, Jay does not have the songs and albums that have been a key part of his latter years
Hell no. Ye barely produced for him outside of some songs/hits.

Timbaland and Pharrell did more for Jay production wise. Hell, arguably Just Blaze too.
 

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This is dumbest shyt Ive seen in the thread so far, for a myriad of reasons.
Yeah I don’t know where the Jay needed Kanye myth started.

Kanye was literally a nobody in the music industry before he had the privilege of producing for prime Jay Z.
 
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