If White Women benefit from DEI the most, then why are we mad at Trump for getting rid of it?

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Am I missing something?

I mean everything THINKS its for Black people (which was the intention) but the actual list of beneficiaries are:
  1. White Women/Male CEOs
  2. Latino/Hispanic Americans
  3. Asian Americans
  4. Native Americans
  5. Disabled Americans
  6. Veterans
  7. LGBTQ+
  8. Black Americans
So why are we crashing out and complaing the most? Are we being used for the white liberal movement ...or am I missing something
 

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What you are missing is that we as black people still benefited from it, even if it wasn't to the degree we had hoped.

Trump isn't replacing it with something that is better for black people. He is removing it, so all the black people that benefited will no longer have a leg up.

Celebrating that white women don't benefit from it anymore doesn't negate the black people who will also lose out

Also, DEI for all intents and purposes now stands for 'anything that benefits black people'. It's coded language that basically means "We don't want black people to get a leg up", so not only is he taking away a policy that was put in place to try to help up, he is creating an atmosphere where people go out of their way to make sure we don't get future opportunities.
 

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Am I missing something?

I mean everything THINKS its for Black people (which was the intention) but the actual list of beneficiaries are:
  1. White Women/Male CEOs
  2. Latino/Hispanic Americans
  3. Asian Americans
  4. Native Americans
  5. Disabled Americans
  6. Veterans
  7. LGBTQ+
  8. Black Americans
So why are we crashing out and complaing the most? Are we being used for the white liberal movement ...or am I missing something
Honestly black folks are tired of being called DEI hires and being the face of it while benefiting the least. shyt happened to me. If it goes way then that narrative goes away also :yeshrug:
 

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What you are missing is that we as black people still benefited from it, even if it wasn't to the degree we had hoped.

Trump isn't replacing it with something that is better for black people. He is removing it, so all the black people that benefited will no longer have a leg up.

Celebrating that white women don't benefit from it anymore doesn't negate the black people who will also lose out

Also, DEI for all intents and purposes now stands for 'anything that benefits black people'. It's coded language that basically means "We don't want black people to get a leg up", so not only is he taking away a policy that was put in place to try to help up, he is creating an atmosphere where people go out of their way to make sure we don't get future opportunities.
But that atmosphere only pretedned to help us.

Did Black wealth increase?
  1. White Women/Male CEOs
  2. Latino/Hispanic Americans
  3. Asian Americans
  4. Native Americans
  5. Disabled Americans
  6. Veterans
  7. LGBTQ+
This is millions of people who co-opted the movement esp after 2020...
 

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But that atmosphere only pretedned to help us.

Did Black wealth increase?
  1. White Women/Male CEOs
  2. Latino/Hispanic Americans
  3. Asian Americans
  4. Native Americans
  5. Disabled Americans
  6. Veterans
  7. LGBTQ+
This is millions of people who co-opted the movement esp after 2020...
Long story short, because you somehow feel the need to push back on @Macallik86 post is this:

You're out here making the good the enemy of the great.
 

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Honestly black folks are tired of being called DEI hires and being the face of it while benefiting the least. shyt happened to me. If it goes way then that narrative goes away also :yeshrug:


Exactly.

We are often viewed as unqualified by randos who have no idea how hard we have worked and studied.

When they mention DEI, they’re implying that all Black people are stupid and lucky.
 

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These motherfukkers hate you so much that they relish in the THOUGHT of hurting you and then you ask shyt like this :francis:



Look at that list you posted, they will make sure they take down all those people JUST to make sure they get to you

Think of the amount of hate that takes


and then you ask shyt like this :francis:

KNOW YOUR GODDAMN ENEMY MAN
 

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These motherfukkers hate you so much that they relish in the THOUGHT of hurting you and then you ask shyt like this :francis:
OP behind the screen


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Exactly

We are looked at as unqualified by randos who have no idea how hard we worked and studied.

When they say DEI they’re implying that all Black people are stupid and unqualified.
Can you not see how backwards this is though?

You are trying to make a living in spite of being at a disadvantage for your skin color and people say you are DEI. And so you would rather that they remove DEI that might help future black people who are disadvantaged so that racist won't call you DEI?

I don't think you are quite grasping the world we live in right now. They are more likely to call you a DEI for everything. They called the white military woman who crashed the helicopter a DEI hire even tho she was in the top 20% of her class.
 

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Conservatives target intiatives that benefits race or gender minorities. Those who fight for civil rights, freedoms aren't often the main beneficiaries. It doesn't erase the fact that (a) they did (b) the option existed for them (c) the small number that did benefit are better for it. Repealing DEI is pandora box for discriminatory practises. It'll go from work to education, officials, farmers and any position that has thriving minorities.
 

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Can you not see how backwards this is though?

You are trying to make a living in spite of being at a disadvantage for your skin color and people say you are DEI. And so you would rather that they remove DEI that might help future black people who are disadvantaged so that racist won't call you DEI?

I don't think you are quite grasping the world we live in right now. They are more likely to call you a DEI for everything. They called the white military woman who crashed the helicopter a DEI hire even tho she was in the top 20% of her class.


Thing is

No one white gave me a break …

I got those grades …

I studied …

I seriously doubt that I got a job because I’m Black …

This DEI thing needs to go away …
 

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But that atmosphere only pretedned to help us.

Did Black wealth increase?
  1. White Women/Male CEOs
  2. Latino/Hispanic Americans
  3. Asian Americans
  4. Native Americans
  5. Disabled Americans
  6. Veterans
  7. LGBTQ+
This is millions of people who co-opted the movement esp after 2020...
It didn't pretend to help us. It actually helped us, just not to the degree we would've liked. Affirmative Action is basically DEI. You are convinced that it is some newfangled thing, but it's about giving opportunity to under-privileged people. This is what they are eroding, and I think you are too focused on the phrasing to see what is happening.


Tried something big for minorities that failed <---- This is DEI if you're optimistic
Tried something small for minorities that failed <---- This is DEI if you're pessimistic
Tried nothing
Actively working against black people in small ways
Actively working against black people in big ways
<----- This is Trump removing DEI and anyone that teaches about race in school
 
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