IF you are Black, do you feel like you're being PUSHED/expected to hate Trump?

[Gravity]

Well, white supremacist extremism has been here for centuries, so I don't see why as a black person I would be so shook now

Unless you live in a different American then I live in. Because this country was then and is now a white supremacist country

So, what about Trump is so different? Other than him being trollish enough to say sh#t out loud

Peace

If you can't see the difference in trump then you're not smart enough to speak in public and should just keep your mouth shut.

If there's no difference in whites then why donyou think that all the white supremacists organizations back trump over Clinton?

 

[Mowgli]

We were going to far left. I'd hoped a less extreme conservative would be in office but it is what it is.


Obama giving trainees bathrooms is a sign we need to pull that back to the right a bit but Trump is a little to far solely because he's not really a politician and has Nazis in his cabinet.
That alone is enough reason for him to be someone who's moves should be studied more then LeBron james.

 

[mcdivit85]

If you can't see the difference in trump then you're not smart enough to speak in public and should just keep your mouth shut.

If there's no difference in whites then why donyou think that all the white supremacists organizations back trump over Clinton?

The middle of the road/left leaning white supremacists, most of the people you would probably consider "liberal" or "non-racist white people" don't like extremist rhetoric. That doesn't mean they're not white supremacists as they still have no issue with the status quo of white people dominating the political, economic and social landscape of America and the world. They just want don't want to see the ugliness of white supremacy.

So, in that regard, I don't see a difference between Trump and Clinton because neither was seriously asking black people for their vote via actual policy and legislation aimed at helping the black population and punishing those who commit harm to the black population.

You may not mind scraps off the political table, but I do. I don't vote for the lesser of two evils.

A candidate either offers a real agenda aimed at steering resources and public policy towards benefiting black people or they don't.



All the white extremist organizations support Trump because he seemed to key into dog whistles they liked

Clinton was simply using diet dog whistles

Peace

 

[Gravity]

The middle of the road/left leaning white supremacists, most of the people you would probably consider "liberal" or "non-racist white people" don't like extremist rhetoric. That doesn't mean they're not white supremacists as they still have no issue with the status quo of white people dominating the political, economic and social landscape of America and the world. They just want don't want to see the ugliness of white supremacy.

So, in that regard, I don't see a difference between Trump and Clinton because neither was seriously asking black people for their vote via actual policy and legislation aimed at helping the black population and punishing those who commit harm to the black population.

You may not mind scraps off the political table, but I do. I don't vote for the lesser of two evils.

So which is it, are all whites the same or is there a such thing as a lesser of 2 evils? You're too stupid to even see that you're contradicting yourself. Acknowledging that trump is more evil or a more extreme racist than Clinton contradicts saying or implying that there's no difference between them. Of course here's a such thing as a lesser of two evils. During the civil war southern whites fought southern whites. Now they were all white racists who were going to maintain white supremacy but it was obvious why blacks benefitted from siding up with the northern whites over the southern whites. Your dumbass would've stayed on the sideline talking about "I'm indifferent".

trump represents a greater evil than Clinton did. That doesn't mean that Clinton wasnt racist or wasn't going to maintain the status quo. The point is that trump ran on a platform to worsen the status quo for blacks and strengthen white supremacy which is why all of the white supremacist organizations backed him over Clinton. You sound stupid man. By your logic there's no difference between hitler and racist white liberal feminist. Too many of you are just downright stupid. It's disheartening.

 

[b_low_brown]

No I don't hate people who don't follow liberal thinking and ideas, I have disgust for people who try to hide behind being "open to both sides of the argument" as a cover to just openly or slyly shyt on black people based on your own insecurities or lack of insight on complex topics.

Not my fault you can't handle the heat.

If you're implying that's what I'm doing then you obviously aren't even trying understand the complexities of opposing perspectives and why they exist in the first place

Neither side of American politics give a shyt about black people. How's that for insight?

 

[Wildhundreds]

Alot of us were to young to know what took place in the 60's, but if you envision black people our there by ourselves fighting the world with no help from other races then you need to pick up a fukking book.

You really don't mean this.

When Bernie Sanders ran his campaign on his involvement in the civil rights movement.

The two white civil rights men who was killed working with a black man in Mississippi.

When the panthers was getting support from all over the world, specifically vietnam.

and many more im to tired to mention

 

[iFightSeagullsForBread]

If you're implying that's what I'm doing then you obviously aren't even trying understand the complexities of opposing perspectives and why they exist in the first place

Neither side of American politics give a shyt about black people. How's that for insight?

You're a peon.

 

[mcdivit85]

So which is it, are all whites the same or is there a such thing as a lesser of 2 evils? You're too stupid to even see that you're contradicting yourself. Acknowledging that trump is more evil or a more extreme racist than Clinton contradicts saying or implying that there's no difference between them. Of course here's a such thing as a lesser of two evils. During the civil war southern whites fought southern whites. Now they were all white racists who were going to maintain white supremacy but it was obvious why blacks benefitted from siding up with the northern whites over the southern whites. Your dumbass would've stayed on the sideline talking about "I'm indifferent".

trump represents a greater evil than Clinton did. That doesn't mean that Clinton wasnt racist or wasn't going to maintain the status quo. The point is that trump ran on a platform to worsen the status quo for blacks and strengthen white supremacy which is why all of the white supremacist organizations backed him over Clinton. You sound stupid man. By your logic there's no difference between hitler and racist white liberal feminist. Too many of you are just downright stupid. It's disheartening.

That's a bad example, because once the Emancipation Proclamation was on the table as a war tactic to cripple The Confederacy during the Civil War, black people had a concrete, objective benefit for fighting with one side of white supremacy vs the other. The official end of their enslavement...in writing...signed by the President.

You can't name a concrete, objective policy that Clinton offered for the exclusive benefit of black people over and above what Trump offered. Because neither offered anything directly aimed at helping black people and fighting the systemic inequality laid at black peoples' feet.

All you can point to is how much worse you believe Trump is than Clinton. Not concrete policy that "the lesser evil" would have offered you. So, since neither was going to give you anything and both sounded the same on police brutality against black people, you have no point here. You basically voted for who made you feel better.

How can Trump represent a "greater evil than Clinton" before he even entered office when we have concrete evidence of what Clinton pushed while in the White House with her husband? She helped her husband push policy that may have had the largest negative impact on the black population since slavery itself. The Crime Bill was created to target black people and helped make imprisoning black people an explosive industry.

So much so that the prison system has been lamented as the new plantation system.

Not saying Trump may not implement some draconian measures hurting black people, but let's not act as if Clinton doesn't ALREADY have a track record of doing just that.

So, yes I'm indifferent to Trump because Trump is just another white supremacist sitting at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. The same white supremacist we've been fighting since Jamestown. The same type of man that has been sitting in the Oval Office ever since there's been an Oval Office. The same type of evil that black people needed to have been and need to continue fighting against.

And with that said, if you weren't thinking about the issues caused by white supremacy until Trump got in office, then you're the dumb one, sir.

Peace

 

[BrehWyatt]

No.

That said, I am trying to fight the urge to tell all white people that this bullshyt is their goddamn fault and they ought to be stomped for it.

 

[Gravity]

That's a bad example, because once the Emancipation Proclamation was on the table as a war tactic to cripple The Confederacy during the Civil War, black people had a concrete, objective benefit for fighting with one side of white supremacy vs the other. The official end of their enslavement...in writing...signed by the President.

You can't name a concrete, objective policy that Clinton offered for the exclusive benefit of black people over and above what Trump offered. Because neither offered anything directly aimed at helping black people and fighting the systemic inequality laid at black peoples' feet.

All you can point to is how much worse you believe Trump is than Clinton. Not concrete policy that "the lesser evil" would have offered you. So, since neither was going to give you anything and both sounded the same on police brutality against black people, you have no point here. You basically voted for who made you feel better.

How can Trump represent a "greater evil than Clinton" before he even entered office when we have concrete evidence of what Clinton pushed while in the White House with her husband? She helped her husband push policy that may have had the largest negative impact on the black population since slavery itself. The Crime Bill was created to target black people and helped make imprisoning black people an explosive industry.

So much so that the prison system has been lamented as the new plantation system.

Not saying Trump may not implement some draconian measures hurting black people, but let's not act as if Clinton doesn't ALREADY have a track record of doing just that.

So, yes I'm indifferent to Trump because Trump is just another white supremacist sitting at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. The same white supremacist we've been fighting since Jamestown. The same type of man that has been sitting in the Oval Office ever since there's been an Oval Office. The same type of evil that black people needed to have been and need to continue fighting against.

And with that said, if you weren't thinking about the issues caused by white supremacy until Trump got in office, then you're the dumb one, sir.

Peace

Stop n frisk is a concrete policy that trump ran on. It's obvious you're an idiot stuck on stupid and we can end it there.

 

[DerrtySouthpaw]

sure he's lost housing discrimination cases, his pops was arrested at a kkk rally, still swears the cp5 are guilty, but no theres no reason to assume hes racist. its definitely the liburl media stirring shyt up

 

[satam55]

I didn't vote for the guy, I don't back his policies, nor did I like his campaign etc......but right now I'm just to this whole thing so far.

I feel like the narrative right now is, "if you're not White....you better be 100% outraged at Trump"

People are saying that Black folks should be disgusted b/c we know how it feels to be mistreated. Well, ok....but why are we even being thrown into this convo to begin with? For once, we're the minority in the racial treatment of minorities. Don't even ask me how....

And while we do know how it feels....when it happens to us nobody(ie minorities) stands with us except for a few White ppl... Even if these other groups get thru this, they're gonna go right back to biz as usual.


When & if Trump ever comes at our heads specifically, then we should be concerned. Until then, we have too much on our plate already in day-to-day life

co-sign

 

[Biscayne]

Nope. I've hated Trump for at least 6 years, back when he started popping off at the mouth and was pushing that birther BS. That combined with all the ignorant crap he spewed(and still does) on Twitter.

Pretty much. I've said on here before, the Trump hatred was just as much of a Trump creation as it was a media creation. People been hated Trump because of unpopular opinions he had, looong before he decided to run. One of those opinions being that Obama wasn't born in America. Long before he decided to run, I don't know many black people who were in love with Trump(even if they never outwardly hated him).

People need to stop acting like Trump hatred came out of the void. Or it was just Liberal-created.

 

[Yesterday]

I dont care if you agree with all his politics or "agendas" you should be anti trump as a black person off principle.

What principles are those?

 

[Sensitive Christian Grey]

I would've thought the ACA repeal might have been a big enough anti-Trump push factor in itself actually, but I don't know the coli's consensus on ACA anyway so