If you are one to say Hiphop is dead. Who are your personal TOP 3 Suspects? :

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Mastamimd said:
Pointing at rappers is disingenuous but the fact that two of the four elements were all but relegated to the underground has to count for something. Aside from a few artists in the 90s and the short revival in the 2000s you never see B Boys/Girls in videos. And with the Telecommunications Act coupled in with the DJ Drama raid the DJ, the most important element in the creation of hip hop, became obsolete.

Commercialization goes back to the 80s but once it became a household commodity in suburbia it was a wrap. I can't blame Eminem alone on this though; when grunge died a lot of the frat boy fans turned to nu metal, which was as far as they would go when it comes to enjoying hip hop. And as that genre was gaining steam in comes Eminem; the perfect storm of a white rapper. Once he came in the commercialization aspect couldn't be put back in the box which destroyed gatekeeping.

One more thing about gatekeeping; I was old enough to remember when most white people HATED hip hop because they were racist as shyt. They refused to even admit they liked it. Now that they do what do you think these record labels are going to do? Target them for profit. Kanye was perfect for that because you had the "safe" guy which opened up a lot. And now we're here.
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Do you still remember when the white boys who listened to Rap never messed with Eminem? Back then there was this 'hiphop card being revoked' type thing. They were strictly crate digging underground NYC heads LOLLL and never even wanted to listen to Em.

Now it is a full 360 till this day MGK - Rap Devil(Eminem diss) is the most disliked YouTube video ever. Em keeps sneaking up the TOP 10 they officially put out in non traditional hiphop platforms. ie. Rollingstone,Billboard Magazine,etc. Eminem crushed the gatekeepers not intentionally but it is what it is though.
 
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BlackDiBiase said:
Do you still remember when the white boys who listened to Rap never messed with Eminem? Back then there was this 'hiphop card being revoked' type thing. They were strictly crate digging underground NYC heads LOLLL and never even wanted to listen to Em.

Now it is a full 360 till this day MGK - Rap Devil(Eminem diss) is the most disliked YouTube video ever. Em keeps sneaking up the TOP 10 they officially put out in non traditional hiphop platforms. ie. Rollingstone,Billboard Magazine,etc. Eminem crushed the gatekeepers not intentionally but it is what it is though.
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Yep it's crazy because those were the few hip hop heads that were right. The snowball effect of Eminem is crazy. Speaking of snowball effect....
 
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We can't understate this. Remember: once upon a time you had to be the best rapper on the block to be considered. Going on the biggest stage and doing this at any other time would be career killing. And let's be real other rappers careers ended because of taking an L: Charles Hamilton for example. But Drake got away with something so cardinal and egregious that it ultimately killed the rap element and skills and integrity didn't matter anymore.
 
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Drake - literally the fakest mf in rap. If you follow dude's career he started off adopting styles and themes from other rappers and always portrayed an image, always came off with some kind of gimmick. Dude is literally 0 substance all hype. First he was this backpacking Kanye wannabe, then he's the "Young Sweet Jones" despite being from fukking Canada, next he's singing his heart out making odes to the hoes, after that he's this mobster type with the mafioso raps, at the same time a pop icon with songs that hardly resemble rap, mf got like 50 personalities and all of em lame :francis:

Jay-Z - same as Drake, just different era. Came up riding other artists waves, taking their styles, ideas and lyrics. Objectively his catalog is mediocre at best. Stans hype him up to be some kind of business genius but in reality the mf is just an opportunist who made the right connections. Not to mention he's been dropping 20 years worth of garbo after coming out of "retirement" trying to come off on some "I'm too cool to flow on a beat" type of shyt :camby:

6ixn9ne - a fukking cancer of an artist, rapped about murders, being a gangster and all that hardcore shyt, law got on his ass, started singing like the opera, even tried to justify his snitching. I'm not even going to touch on the tattoos, colored hair and use of the n-word.

I'm pointing out these three because I think they had a large influence on where the game was headed, not saying there's not a thousand other wack motherfukkers that made shyt music but these are the leaders
 
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BlackDiBiase said:
Do you still remember when the white boys who listened to Rap never messed with Eminem? Back then there was this 'hiphop card being revoked' type thing. They were strictly crate digging underground NYC heads LOLLL and never even wanted to listen to Em.

Now it is a full 360 till this day MGK - Rap Devil(Eminem diss) is the most disliked YouTube video ever. Em keeps sneaking up the TOP 10 they officially put out in non traditional hiphop platforms. ie. Rollingstone,Billboard Magazine,etc. Eminem crushed the gatekeepers not intentionally but it is what it is though.
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Yep for sure. I was in college when Eminem blew up :flabbynsick: and knew a few white "real hip hop heads" who hated Eminem. Which is funny because 99-03 is the era when Em got mad love from the black community, especially in the 2001 and MMLP stretch.
 
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Something else that came to mind: FL Studio. Now I'm all for innovation but once everyone and their momma got their hands on it it killed gatekeeping in production
 
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Mike Wins said:
Yep for sure. I was in college when Eminem blew up :flabbynsick: and knew a few white "real hip hop heads" who hated Eminem. Which is funny because 99-03 is the era when Em got mad love from the black community, especially in the 2001 and MMLP stretch.
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It's funny as hell because if you ask Twitter they'll say nikkas never fukked with Em and that's a lie lol
 
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