If you are white, grow up liking black music, then make money off it..are you vulture status?

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Nah I think once you cross into a discussion about the actual intricacies of an artform, it becomes more about biting, jacking, or being influenced than vulturing. Like I wouldn't call A$AP Rocky a vulture for jacking Texas sounds, or JT and Adele for being milk r&b, because they incorporate those aspects while maintaining their own musical identity, and also don't show outright disrespect to their influences while pretending to be something they're not.

Wouldn't call Desiigner or any random NY rapper who flows over ATL beats vultures either because they're just biting aspects of an adjacent sub-culture that's part of a broader culture they're already in. I mean, NY invented rap for argument's sakes. Meanwhile, you look at Post Malone who basically masqueraded as a hip-hop/r&b artist, with the look and gimmick to go along with it, and who was exposed for that. Vulturing is about more than just the music.

And even if Drake showed love before, it's still vulturing to some degree, because now he's adopting the slang, the accents, the mannerisms, the whole shebang when before there was not a pinch of that fabric in him. He's also been using real reggae artists for features or "inspiration" then subsequently discarding them when he's done with them, he's blatantly lifted entire elements from other reggae songs and played it off as homages, and it doesn't help that he's got a shaky track record when it comes to artistic integrity. I fukk with reggae Drake but we need to keep it a buck and realize funky business when we see it

Good post, although I hear Toronto slang/talk is heavily Carribean influenced just like where I'm from (London)

For example this was maybe the biggest street song out here last year. Dude on the book has no Carribean heritage but it's not a big deal here really. We all use Carribean slang. Only weird thing with Drake is he's suddenly embracing Toronto Carribean influence

 

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Vultures = people who hop on waves or aspects of a culture in order to buttress and supplement their own identity and desire for "originality", even though they originally never/hardly fukked with the culture and will likely drop said culture in the future for the next thing, ie Post Malone, Miley Cyrus, whenever popstars wanna incorporate hip hop slang or mannerisms in their songs and videos, even Drake with his reggae thing

Eminem, Rick Rubin, Alchemist, Mac Miller, etc aren't vultures, because they grew up loving the culture and continue to represent and be involved with it, and likely will until the day they die. There might be other terms you can call them but vulture ain't it

Lol didn't Eminem make a song dissing black women? Wasn't he exposed for using the n word? fukk outta here that racist cac is a culture vulture, just like Rick Ruben beastie boys alchemist or whoever
 

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Lol didn't Eminem make a song dissing black women? Wasn't he exposed for using the n word? fukk outta here that racist cac is a culture vulture, just like Rick Ruben beastie boys alchemist or whoever

First off what the fukk is this Coli thing where people are ragging on Em and "exposing" him for using the "n" word? It's not like he said it maliciously, it was one of those white boy moments where someone says it cuz they think they're down

And you clearly you disregarded my definition of what a culture vulture is and also failed to read the very last sentence of my post "There might be other terms you can call them but vulture ain't it". You can't deny their love and appreciation for the culture, and how they've made money together with blacks, not just off them. Provide your definition of what a culture vulture is and explain why you think Rick Rubin, Alc, and Beastie Boys are vultures, otherwise :camby:
 

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First off what the fukk is this Coli thing where people are ragging on Em and "exposing" him for using the "n" word? It's not like he said it maliciously, it was one of those white boy moments where someone says it cuz they think they're down

And you clearly you disregarded my definition of what a culture vulture is and also failed to read the very last sentence of my post "There might be other terms you can call them but vulture ain't it". You can't deny their love and appreciation for the culture, and how they've made money together with blacks, not just off them. Provide your definition of what a culture vulture is and explain why you think Rick Rubin, Alc, and Beastie Boys are vultures, otherwise :camby:

The fact that u think it's ok for this trailer cac to use the n word in any form or fashion (and then profit off of black culture no less) speaks to your white supremacist mentality.
fukk outta here. Ur opinion is invalid :camby:
 

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you just want a reason to cape for white people.
anybody from UK thats not a yardie is basically a cac.
 

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First off what the fukk is this Coli thing where people are ragging on Em and "exposing" him for using the "n" word? It's not like he said it maliciously, it was one of those white boy moments where someone says it cuz they think they're down

And you clearly you disregarded my definition of what a culture vulture is and also failed to read the very last sentence of my post "There might be other terms you can call them but vulture ain't it". You can't deny their love and appreciation for the culture, and how they've made money together with blacks, not just off them. Provide your definition of what a culture vulture is and explain why you think Rick Rubin, Alc, and Beastie Boys are vultures, otherwise :camby:

Naw, he absolutely 100% used it maliciously...with degrading racist intent
 

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the real vultures are executives like lyor cohen
but white ppl in hip hop are corny more often than not
 
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