If you broke don’t have kids

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Henri Christophe

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Instead of reducing our numbers & cancelling people's access to reproduction - we should be focused on putting systems and infrastructure in place to sustain our current & future populations.

Even if we reduce our numbers by 90% with only 10% of black people allowed to reproduce - we're still gonna be broke and powerless as a collective.

Its a cheap fix to a large problem.

For example, Its been millions of abortions performed in the last 40 years and zero progress has been made.... nikkas still broke.

Having less kids does not lead to more wealth & power.
 

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Not saying people should be popping out kids with no plan but most of the global population is broke nikkas... so it sounds crazy to say that there must be a certain amount of money made in order have children

I come from a blessed family but most black people are broke as a joke - therefore their access to reproduction would be automatically cancelled and we would no longer exist.

most of the current economic conditions that black people face - were created long before we were born.
Sure, putting a hard number on it is a bit utilitarian and cold but people overly romanticize having children. Of course a lot of this is dictated by government policy and inequitable wealth distribution (I have a feeling you want speak on that), but personal accountability is also at play. Why does the U.S. birthrate go down as household income and education increase?

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Instead of reducing our numbers & cancelling people's access to reproduction - we should be focused on putting systems and infrastructure in place to sustain our current & future populations.
Yep, I had a feeling you'd go there. And I don't disagree with you. But I also don't think we should make the situation worse by having kids we can't afford.
 

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Why does the U.S. birthrate go down as household income and education increase?

because women have the option and freedom to choose their own path in life.

and given the option to choose - most women would rather go work at some dude's company instead of raise your children.

America is not a place for building family.... this is a trap house... its about getting money and smashing hoes... capitalism baby.... we chasing paper.... fukk a family... thats the mentality here.

My main point is, most black people today are broke because our ancestors lost a series of wars.

I dont think we should cut off people's access to reproduction because of that.

its not their fault they were born into a race of people thats been under attack for multiple centuries.... we should be working together so our people can become self-sufficient .... thats the only way to fix the problem.

The problem won't be fixed by cutting off reproduction to 90% of us.... its a quick fix that doesn't really solve anything in the grand scheme of things
 

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because women have the option and freedom to choose their own path in life.

and given the option to choose - most women would rather go work at some dude's company instead of raise your children.

America is not a place for building family.... this is a trap house... its about getting money and smashing hoes... capitalism baby.... we chasing paper.... fukk a family... thats the mentality here.

My main point is, most black people today are broke because our ancestors lost a series of wars.

I dont think we should cut off people's access to reproduction because of that.

its not their fault they were born into a race of people thats been under attack for multiple centuries.... we should be working together so our people can become self-sufficient .... thats the only way to fix the problem.

The problem won't be fixed by cutting off reproduction to 90% of us.... its a quick fix that doesn't really solve anything in the grand scheme of things
This is a whole lot of untruth, my guy. Higher income and education homes have less children because its financially prudent to do so. Its also true that the less you have going on in life, the easier it is to do unproductive things all day...one of them being having sex. Sex leads to children.

Folks who want to live quality lives put ducks in a row before having kids. Those that don't will pump them out.
 

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I think it’s better to say you shouldn’t have kids if you know for a fact you won’t be able to properly take care of and protect them.

Bringing children into a fukked living situation is selfish. You have countries where loser parents sell their own children for food/money when times get hard smh.
 

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This is a whole lot of untruth, my guy. Higher income and education homes have less children because its financially prudent to do so. Its also true that the less you have going on in life, the easier it is to do unproductive things all day...one of them being having sex. Sex leads to children.

Folks who want to live quality lives put ducks in a row before having kids. Those that don't will pump them out.

My point is - the problem isn't the children.

The problem is black people (as a collective) do not feed, educate, employ, and provide medical treatment to their own children.

If you reduce the black population by 90% - these issues still exist....still gonna be a powerless group that cant support its most basic needs

Doesn't matter how much you reduce the population if you can't even feed or employ your own people.

The problem is bigger than just reducing the population... Black children aren't the reason that black people are broke.
 

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IF and only IF the people are willing to do that, say have elders watch children, then it works. Otherwise generational poverty is not solved by just having more kids and hoping a couple turn out well.

As a group that does everything opposite our good interests it won't work. Rebuilding ourselves into a proper group that values education, returning to the group with education in tow and accountability changes all of that.

Permanent vulture or survival mode of thinking doesn't leave much for the future generations. If we think of them at all...
 

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My point is - the problem isn't the children.

The problem is black people (as a collective) do not feed, educate, employ, and provide medical treatment to their own children.

If you reduce the black population by 90% - these issues still exist....still gonna be a powerless group that cant support its most basic needs

Doesn't matter how much you reduce the population if you can't even feed or employ your own people.

The problem is bigger than just reducing the population... Black children aren't the reason that black people are broke.
Bruh imma say it like this...the people with the least free time and inclination to do all of that work are the folks with kids who have immediate needs. It behooves people with time and resources to plan what you are saying out because that requires infrastructure. Kids are a gigantic time and energy sink.

It is not about population reduction so much as using the time you have to set yourself up for the best outcomes for you are yours. When you are already in the thick of poverty AND add kids, you don't have time nor desire to act.
 

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Bruh imma say it like this...the people with the least free time and inclination to do all of that work are the folks with kids who have immediate needs. It behooves people with time and resources to plan what you are saying out because that requires infrastructure. Kids are a gigantic time and energy sink.

It is not about population reduction so much as using the time you have to set yourself up for the best outcomes for you are yours. When you are already in the thick of poverty AND add kids, you don't have time nor desire to act.

I feel you

I guess what I'm saying is - we wouldnt even need to have these convos if we already had self-sufficient systems in place to provide for our people.

We would be able to plug people in directly into our systems... from education to employment to buying/selling within the community.

Those at the bottom would be able to sustain themselves by the infrastructure created from those at the top.... it would be a mutual symbiotic relationship.

Poverty wouldn't be so hard to escape if we could provide the basic needs of our community... food, medical, education, employment, products/services.

Again - I'm not advocating random sex and degeneracy.... I'm just looking at the overall big picture as to why we even have these conversations .... because we dont have enough resources to sustain our populations.
 

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That sounds like eugenics...

But I think it’s stupid to have kids that you can’t afford.
 

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everyone should have kids if they want, fukk how much money you have

but if you're broke, you shouldnt get any support after two. you had your two kids :hubie: focus on them. put all your resources into them
 

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The population in America tripled in the last 50 year's, while quality of life and basic needs (food, water) have been going down In quality.
 
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