If you could ask "Jesus" one question
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Entrapta310
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@Ark
can we honestly debate this?? you come from a doctrine that says anyone who questions JESUS as GOD is evil and the anti christ.
your religion tells you to not to believe me and think you're right and i'm wrong.
jesus isnt god! and your religion wont allow you to open your eyes and SEE IT in the new testament,
you dont see that JESUS never said he was GOD?
what book do you have near your bed?
can we honestly debate this?? you come from a doctrine that says anyone who questions JESUS as GOD is evil and the anti christ.
your religion tells you to not to believe me and think you're right and i'm wrong.
jesus isnt god! and your religion wont allow you to open your eyes and SEE IT in the new testament,
you dont see that JESUS never said he was GOD?
what book do you have near your bed?
Kwéyòl
Moon walking seeing moon people
why have you forsaken black people
who is being put to test here , is it not Jesus Christ?in Genesis1:2 “And the earth was without
form, and void; and darkness
was upon the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God moved
upon the face of the waters."
now why didn't it just say and God moved upon the face of the waters? this is the bible trying to tell us that God is three but ONE if not he wonldnt have said what he said in Gen1:26....In Genesis1:26 it says " And God said, Let us make
man in our image, after our
likeness" Now don't even come in here saying that God asking help from the Angels he created to help him and create man when he just when he created the universe by the words of his mouth....wait a minute The WORD
The WORD was made FLESHin john1:1-4 In the beginning was the Word, and the
Word was with God, and the Word was God.
He was with God in the beginning.
Through him all things were made; without
him nothing was made that has been made[/b[.
In him was life, and that life was the light of
all mankind. Here the bible talks about Jesus Christ the word that was made flesh.
John1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt
among us.......
John12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will
draw all men unto me
why didn't he say i will draw all men unto GodIn Matthew 12:30-32 He that is not with me is against me; and
he that gathereth not with me scattereth
abroad.
Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin
and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men:
but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost
shall not be forgiven unto men.
And whosoever speaketh a word against
the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but
whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it
shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world,
neither in the world to come. Here Jesus talk about him and the Holy spirit being God thereby having power over sin and Jesus states he can forgive all that is done against him but the Holy Spirit will not forgive the one done against him(now isn't it some to think about) and i think it is that part of the bible that every true Christian should know about.
in John 14:7-14 If ye had known me, ye should have known
my Father also: and from henceforth ye know
him, and have seen him.
Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the
Father, and it sufficeth us.
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long
time with you, and yet hast thou not known
me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen
the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show
us the Father?
Believest thou not that I am in the Father,
and the Father in me? the words that I speak
unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father
that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
Believe me that I am in the Father, and the
Father in me: or else believe me for the very
works' sake.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that
believeth on me, the works that I do shall he
do also; and greater works than these shall he
do; because I go unto my Father.
And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name,
that will I do, that the Father may be glorified
in the Son.
If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will
do it.
in my nameJohn10:30 i and the father are [B[ONE
John20:28 Thomas looks at the risen Jesus and says "my lord and my God"
1John2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath
not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth
the Son hath the Father also
Matthew28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father, and
of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost
who is being put to test here , is it not Jesus Christ?in Genesis1:2 “And the earth was without
form, and void; and darkness
was upon the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God moved
upon the face of the waters."
now why didn't it just say and God moved upon the face of the waters? this is the bible trying to tell us that God is three but ONE if not he wonldnt have said what he said in Gen1:26....In Genesis1:26 it says " And God said, Let us make
man in our image, after our
likeness" Now don't even come in here saying that God asking help from the Angels he created to help him and create man when he just when he created the universe by the words of his mouth....wait a minute The WORD
The WORD was made FLESHin john1:1-4 In the beginning was the Word, and the
Word was with God, and the Word was God.
He was with God in the beginning.
Through him all things were made; without
him nothing was made that has been made[/b[.
In him was life, and that life was the light of
all mankind. Here the bible talks about Jesus Christ the word that was made flesh.
John1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt
among us.......
John12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will
draw all men unto me
why didn't he say i will draw all men unto GodIn Matthew 12:30-32 He that is not with me is against me; and
he that gathereth not with me scattereth
abroad.
Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin
and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men:
but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost
shall not be forgiven unto men.
And whosoever speaketh a word against
the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but
whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it
shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world,
neither in the world to come. Here Jesus talk about him and the Holy spirit being God thereby having power over sin and Jesus states he can forgive all that is done against him but the Holy Spirit will not forgive the one done against him(now isn't it some to think about) and i think it is that part of the bible that every true Christian should know about.
in John 14:7-14 If ye had known me, ye should have known
my Father also: and from henceforth ye know
him, and have seen him.
Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the
Father, and it sufficeth us.
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long
time with you, and yet hast thou not known
me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen
the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show
us the Father?
Believest thou not that I am in the Father,
and the Father in me? the words that I speak
unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father
that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
Believe me that I am in the Father, and the
Father in me: or else believe me for the very
works' sake.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that
believeth on me, the works that I do shall he
do also; and greater works than these shall he
do; because I go unto my Father.
And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name,
that will I do, that the Father may be glorified
in the Son.
If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will
do it.
in my nameJohn10:30 i and the father are [B[ONE
John20:28 Thomas looks at the risen Jesus and says "my lord and my God"
1John2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath
not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth
the Son hath the Father also
Matthew28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father, and
of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost
Taadow
The StarchBishop™️
What did Satan ask here, though?
Luke 4:9, 10
He then led him into Jerusalem and stationed him on the battlement of the temple and said to him: “If you are a son of God, throw yourself down from here, for it is written, ‘He will give his angels a command concerning you, to preserve you,’ and, ‘They will carry you on their hands, so that you may not strike your foot against a stone."
Who is the "he" here that will command the angels to save Jesus' flesh? God.
It looks like Jesus is the only one being tested here, but Jesus saw through this tactic of Satan and knew it was
also a test of God, which is why he responded with "you must not put God to the test".
Now if Satan knew that Jesus and God were the same, he wouldn't have even asked Jesus to do this
because he would have knowledge that Jesus could save himself - even in his human form.
in Genesis1:2 “And the earth was without
form, and void; and darkness
was upon the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God moved
upon the face of the waters."
Where in this verse does it mention Jesus? The spirit of God is a force of God that does whatever he wants it to do,
it's not an entity in itself.
Actually, I will come in here to tell you this, because the Angels were created before the Earth...and Job 38:1-7
says when the Earth was created the angels (the verse calls them "morning stars") applauded. Now the Bible
calls Jesus the "Bright Morning Star" meaning he must have been the chief angel. So if God said "let US make man
in OUR image - it's quite plausible he was talking to all of angeldom, and it may not have been just Jesus.
in john1:1-4 In the beginning was the Word, and the
Word was with God, and the Word was God.
He was with God in the beginning.
Through him all things were made; without
him nothing was made that has been made[/b[.
In him was life, and that life was the light of
all mankind. Here the bible talks about Jesus Christ the word that was made flesh.
John1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt
among us.......
John12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will
draw all men unto me
In Matthew 12:30-32 He that is not with me is against me; and
he that gathereth not with me scattereth
abroad.
Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin
and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men:
but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost
shall not be forgiven unto men.
And whosoever speaketh a word against
the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but
whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it
shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world,
neither in the world to come. Here Jesus talk about him and the Holy spirit being God thereby having power over sin and Jesus states he can forgive all that is done against him but the Holy Spirit will not forgive the one done against him(now isn't it some to think about) and i think it is that part of the bible that every true Christian should know about.
in John 14:7-14 If ye had known me, ye should have known
my Father also: and from henceforth ye know
him, and have seen him.
Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the
Father, and it sufficeth us.
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long
time with you, and yet hast thou not known
me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen
the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show
us the Father?
Believest thou not that I am in the Father,
and the Father in me? the words that I speak
unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father
that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
Believe me that I am in the Father, and the
Father in me: or else believe me for the very
works' sake.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that
believeth on me, the works that I do shall he
do also; and greater works than these shall he
do; because I go unto my Father.
And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name,
that will I do, that the Father may be glorified
in the Son.
If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will
do it.
John10:30 i and the father are [B[ONE
John20:28 Thomas looks at the risen Jesus and says "my lord and my God"
1John2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath
not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth
the Son hath the Father also
Matthew28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father, and
of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost
I'll tell you what Bruh...@Entrapta310 gave you a litany of verse that show Jesus saying
how he and the father are not the same. Yes, they "are one" - but that doesn't mean they
are "the same". The same way a man can marry a woman and in that union they "are one",
that doesn't mean they are the same person.
So i'll just leave this here, and you do with it what you will...
1st Corinthians 15:20 -28
But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep in death.
For since death came through a man, resurrection of the dead also comes through a man.
For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive.
But each one in his own proper order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who belong to the Christ during his presence.
Next, the end, when he hands over the Kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. For he must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet. And the last enemy, death, is to be brought to nothing.
For God “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’
it is evident that this does not include the One who subjected all things to him.
But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him,
that God may be all things to everyone.
So the Bible here should help you to know that:
1. It says Christ "has been raised" - not that he "raised up". Somebody had to raise him.
2. God has given some authority to Jesus. He could not do that if they were the same, as they would have the same powers.
2B. clearly as day: even though God gave some authority to Jesus, it "is evident" that he didn't give Jesus
authority over him. If God and Jesus are the same, this statement makes no sense at all.
3. It says that God "puts all enemies" "under Jesus' feet", not Jesus.
If they are the same, why doesn't it say Jesus will put all his enemies under his own feet?
God has his own, separate part to do in that.
4. There will be a time ("the end") when Jesus has "all things" (things - not God, God is not a thing) subject to him.
When that happens - he will hand over his duties and power as King of Gods' Kingdom.
If he's supposed to be equal to God, this transferrence of power would be unnecessary.
4B. Then - Jesus will then subject himself to the Father. He COULD NOT "subject himself" to himself.
If you don't understand this after that, iono what to say...
Entrapta310
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Entrapta310
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JESUS ISNT GOD you stupid fool who wont quote me or debate me,
the book you sweat and hold SAYS IT
hooked on phonics?
the book you sweat and hold SAYS IT
hooked on phonics?
Entrapta310
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funny how CHRISTIANS who are stemmed into catholicism thinks a man who never ONCE SAID he was god, is GOD.
how stupid and cacish can you be?? give GOD his glory without saying he is JESUS.
even muhammad didnt do that. and notice those who believe jesus isnt GOD is in the same place as those who jesus defended. poor and judged.
JESUS ISNT GOD... white fool @Ark
how stupid and cacish can you be?? give GOD his glory without saying he is JESUS.
even muhammad didnt do that. and notice those who believe jesus isnt GOD is in the same place as those who jesus defended. poor and judged.
JESUS ISNT GOD... white fool @Ark