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King-Over-Kingz
Why does an object have to "determine" it? Ethics and morals have always been determined by people and subject to change based on opinion. It's weak to need a religion or god or "object" to know what's right and wrong.
You really think nobody would think killing was wrong if they didn't read the bible? If god came to you and said that rape or slavery was ok, then you'd be fine with it?
Its based opinion breh. You said it yourself. So which "opinion" is wrong/right? Killing is wrong, no matter the circumstance or killing is not wrong if it improves anothers condition or way of life? Saying "majority wins" doesnt make it right just as saying "well these certain guys that bleed, breathe and die like me, got together and decided that this is what we should go with" doesnt fly either... So what is it?
You cant discuss this concept without projecting things that I've never said or suggested. Why cant you simply discuss the topic of objective morality and its nonexistence to an atheist?