If You're the Breadwinner...

[Un-AmericanDreamer]

High value is determined by the market, so if women are willing to get with a known cheater. What does that tell you?

 

[Un-AmericanDreamer]

High value men do cheat. Plenty of upstanding men cheated. MLK cheated and I would consider him moral. Don't confuse moral with perfection. If men can't beat no fap without relapsing, what makes you think hes never going to cheat on his wife, especially if she's not living up to her end of the bargain. We need to stop idealizing a concept of a man and accept men for what we actually are, flaws and all. Lebron definitely cheated, but he's also a good man imo. A good man is willing to deal with the other woman if she gets out of line. Thats because they legitimately care about their wives, even if they're not built for monogamy but want a family. No man truly wants to be married, because it's a bad deal for us. We do it for y'all.

 

[TNC]

I posted the video so people could see what he said and I summarized what he said.

He told her to stay with the cheater and work out an arrangement so that he could cheat breh. Even told her to possibly get some on the side too.

But you mischaracterized what he said. Whenever someone does that, it kind of shows alterior motives...

and KS kept it real with her. She has a 6’6 rich former collegiate athlete, he cheated but so long as he doesn’t do it again, can’t that be worked out? Because she’s not likely to do better than him without the same problems. And FARRR more likely to do worse WITH the same problems.

 

[Umoja]

Nah it isn't okay to cheat.

It is okay to put a deal on the table and say "take it or leave it".

 

[SheWantTheD]

Kevin Samuels is entertaining. He exposes some fukked up mindsets some women walk around with. However he talks a lot of rubbish and nobody really calls him out on it.

Is he doing something so egregious and damaging that it needs to be called out? I don't think so.

And there are plenty of people that are actually, they are just small time and get no views or traction. I believe any person with a decent sized following won't make their platform just about critiquing Kevin Samuels. I'm sure most made one video or post on it and kept it moving.

 

[tuckgod]

If yall agree to it sure, but why lie and get serious in the first place if you just want to run up in strange

 

[DropTopDoc]

Again, how you can men claim to be leaders when they don’t have the heart to even be honest? What is the point of going through the motions and building something when the lies will eventually catch up with you and destroy everything you built. Just seems like a cowards way to approach the situation.

Being a leaders means accepting responsibility.

being a leader means knowing yourself, knowing what you are against and approach it in a way that’s conducive to you, and creates minimum issues, If we lived in a society where that was accepted cool, but we don’t, I’ve said this in so many ways if men were brutally honest in their approach to women, men would forever be single, there are not gobs of women who would be comfortable with a man dealing with multiple women, while dealing with her, and while he happens to like her, like what she’s about, he will like other women because he likes certain things in them, but they lack somewhere and that’s why he would not set them in the same category as the one he pursues the relationship in, he may do what he does, but it’s that woman he likes the most, not saying it’s right, but again he can’t tell her I’m outchea and be with her beyond casual conversation, so he’s left with the choice conform or bounce, but he likes her so he conforms and never does anything or conforms in theory and does his thing but tries to not have those two situations come together

Something I’m curious about is why people who want to cheat WANT relationships.

Im not talking about the people who go into relationships with the best intentions and then get caught up. Nor am I talking about two petty, immature individuals who want to get back at each other.

Im talking about the men or women who literally feel ENTITLED to loyalty, respect, love and honesty from their partners.....but also feel entitled to side dikk or side chicks.

Why not just stay single? And keep your assets safer as well. There’s a psychological element to this shyt too.

because you can like a woman and even see a relationship with her, but have a desire to see what other women are about, some men act on it some never do, in a perfect world you find a situation that allows you both, but odds say that’s highly unlikely, men would love casual sex with multiple women, women are not like that, i know every woman screams it’s plenty of women who want that, but not necessarily and doesn’t mean with him or he will find them. Women who like to step outside their situation do it for other reasons, because realistically they could get casual sex all day. ( usually it’s the other guy makes more money, has more clout, fukks her better, or makes her feel more desired)

 

[King Poetic]

He majority of the time is right when he talks to women but he was wrong in this case

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Most high-earning men are focused on goals and building. That focus can come off cold in some areas but it helps explain how they become successful in the first place.

Asking permission to have extramarital sex is a major distraction and a headache that they would prefer to do without if possible. Nevermind the act, just broaching the topic invites your spouse to be an insecure wreck for at least the next few months (not all women of course, just explaining the logic).

If it were more socially acceptable I believe we'd see a lot more extramarital sex and fewer secrets. At least with the middle class on up.

I can't speak for bum ass dudes. I'm not sure why they believe they have the right to step out.

Again, why build something up just to have it fall apart? I'm sure a divorce is a bigger distraction than an upset girlfriend.

You're basically saying it would be inconvenience to be honest.

 

[mamba]

I dont believe in a narrow window of perfection. The folks that are on this online space that do have that slim tiny window of perfection as their ideal, I believe, are men who lack experience with women period. Which is why their views on women are so limited and short sighted and unrealistic.

I value imperfections in a woman whether physically or philosophically or mentally or whatever. I'm imperfect myself so why hold her to some ethereal unrealistic measuring stick?

I dont follow Kevin Samuels nor do I believe he's a good "role model" for men. One breh on here said it best. Kevin has "auntie swag"


So I'm not looking to an obvious zesty dude for advice and it's kind of alarming that so many do.

But in a way, I understand it. There's an increasing level of frustration between men and women - on both sides.

But someone like Kevin is able to come along, pepper in some things to make men feel good while simultaneously calling into question the worthiness of women. And with that explosive collide of ideas, a following is born.

It's almost genius. Women listen to him because women seek validation. And the more a man does NOT validate women, the more women seek it. So they are intrigued by what Kevin says because its almost as if he's issued a challenge to women's ego. He's telling women that they are not worthy so it almost seems like every woman that speaks to him is hoping to be that one worthy woman? I don't know. Thats my theory but I don't listen to him to know for sure.

And of course men love to listen because Kevin gets the opportunity to tell women to their face what thousands and thousands of frustrated men would like to say to yall.

A summed up version of "you want us men to be perfect? You aint perfect ya damn self. How you aint a virgin and been giving ya p*ssy away to all these men but expect to get the cream of the crop when you're ready to settle down? You passed over all the good men who wanted to make you an honest woman and instead went for dudes that were no good, you're not young anymore and a lot of you are out of shape, so why should we listen to what you want?"


It's a place of anger, a place of grievance, and that's what it seems Kevin has been able to tap into. He's the mouthpiece for the frustration of many men.

That sums it up, perfectly!

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Let's say said women is 25, she a 8, 130lbs, no kids, getting married to HVM who earns north of 150k.

Fast forward 10 years, hvm man is earning 200k. The wife is now 35 years old 145 lbs, 2 kids slightly lower the a the 8 she use to be but still pretty.
Let's say hvm man cheats, she wants a divorce, problem is, this women still expects to get married to the same type of man she is leaving which is a hvm earning north of 150k.
Problem with that is she is no longer 25, she also has 2 kids, she also 15 pounds bigger but still pretty, she's not going to get the same value she did when she was 25 an childless boy she expects to, but those men have access to the 25-28 childless version of what she once was. She now has baggage but she not making the adjustment to what she can really expect to get once single, Ks is right, someone like her will have to make a deal, finding a good man that makes about 65-70k a year which is roughly half of what her ex husband makes, which means, she she is going to lose her lifestyle and way of life.
So in actuality it's better for her to stay in her marriage in order to not take a huge step backwards trying to find another man similar to the one she just left....the ones available on market arent going to want a lesser version of herself, 1 to 2 kids deep 5 years from 40.
Yea...its better to work it out with her huhsband

1. That scenario is not the case. She's still very young, has no child and her marriage is 60/40.

2. If you run in HV circles you will find another HV man.

3. If she's smart she should have used his resources to upgrade herself and budgeted according so that she can live a good lifestyle without him.

4. You are completely ignoring the mental aspect. Again, staying just for the money is the type of thinking that leads to sleeping in separate beds. Ya'll really thingk women can just turn off those feelings? Lol Down grading to the condo from the mansion is a sacrifice that could very well be worth it to protect your mental health for both parties

 

[Zero]

OP Why don't you spend this energy on your husband?

The replies that get sidestepped on here

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Ima have to rewatch the video.

And like I said I don’t agree with everything he says and I agree there are men who make six figures and make poor dating decisions, are simps etc but KS says he’s not talking about those men.

But let’s put all that aside. Even so, the percentage of black men that make over six figures let alone as much or more than the women who call in saying the man has to be both attractive and equally yoked (woman making like 350k said this).

What is the percentage of men that fits those criteria? Like 2-3% maybe?

I know a fine woman making 300k + a year and is single because she has to have a man that makes just as much of more than her. She also has to be attracted to him and that spark gotta be there.

And I don’t think an overwhelming number black men love to hear black women being bashed that’s just ridiculous.

That’s just his audience and I see plenty of black women in his comments section also singing him praises.

1. Black men don't have to be the only option. If these relationships are based off of money why would it matter the race of a man

2. If a woman is dating purely off of income from a W2 you know right there she's doesn't know shyt about wealth. Rich people marry for family wealth. That’s why these conversations are ridiculous. Broke people have these rich people fantasies. A man can make 50K, have a paid off house and a trust fund. That's a HVM but KS plays into rich people fantasies for the uninformed. Like I said, if you run in these circles you know this and it won't be hard to find another especially if you are attractive. KS plays into the fact that people are ignorant about money and social circles to shame and scare women into desperation for the entertainment of men.

3. Your friend needs to upgrade her social circle and adjust her standards.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

High value men do cheat. Plenty of upstanding men cheated. MLK cheated and I would consider him moral. Don't confuse moral with perfection. If men can't beat no fap without relapsing, what makes you think hes never going to cheat on his wife, especially if she's not living up to her end of the bargain. We need to stop idealizing a concept of a man and accept men for what we actually are, flaws and all. Lebron definitely cheated, but he's also a good man imo. A good man is willing to deal with the other woman if she gets out of line. Thats because they legitimately care about their wives, even if they're not built for monogamy but want a family. No man truly wants to be married, because it's a bad deal for us. We do it for y'all.

Can a woman be a good woman and also be a cheater?

 

[MikelArteta]

1. Black men don't have to be the only option. If these relationships are based off of money why would it matter the race of a man

2. If a woman is dating purely off of income from a W2 you know right there she's doesn't know shyt about wealth. Rich people marry for family wealth. That’s why these conversations are ridiculous. Broke people have these rich people fantasies. A man can make 50K, have a paid off house and a trust fund. That's a HVM but KS plays into rich people fantasies for the uninformed. Like I said, if you run in these circles you know this and it won't be hard to find another especially if you are attractive. KS plays into the fact that people are ignorant about money and social circles to shame and scare women into desperation for the entertainment of men.

3. Your friend needs to upgrade her social circle and adjust her standards.

like prob 6% of black men are "HVM" by kevin samuels definition and that includes short men, ugly men, gay men, men in relationships, men married, men who don't date black women and most HVM black men are prob concentrated in maybe 5-6 cities in amerikkka - la, nyc, dallas, san fran, atlanta, houston