You can’t refute a question by avoiding giving honest answers because they don’t fit your argument and deflecting to counter questions that have nothing to do with the questions at hand.
What does paying for a first date or approaching a man you find attractive have to do with childbirth or anything else you said?
If men and women were equal, why are men expected to do certain things and women aren’t? Women don’t avoid paying for dates because they’re thinking of childbirth, you just don’t want to spend your money. And none of what you said had anything with approaching a man. Why don’t women make the first move when they see a man they want instead of waiting for him to do it? Because y’all are terrified of rejection.
Now you want to go back to defending traditional gender roles as a deflection when you’ve spent this whole thread arguing they’re archaic.
Dates in 2021 have nothing to do with the original motives of courtship thousands of years ago. It’s just 2 people getting to know each other and seeing if they have a connection worth exploring. But when it’s time to pay, it’s back to traditional roles.
Women have their own money and are independent nowadays, so you don’t have to wait for a man to come to you. So what’s stopping you from approaching the handsome man you see and making a move? Now traditional gender roles come back into play to hide your fear of rejection.
Bottom line is you expect men to be men, which does not correlate with men and women being equal. If men and women were equal, you would not have an expectation for men do do certain things for no other reason than because he’s the man and you’re the woman.
None of this makes sense. I matched questions to yours because they were related to the larger issue of what is being brought to the table by either gender in general. I thought they were hypotheticals b/c we aren’t talking about u and I specifically.As for why men and women are expected to do certain things, using your analogy, apples and oranges do different things as well, yet can still hold equal value and mass. Equality doesn’t mean you have to be or act identical to something else.
As for the rest of what you said, you can have a theory on why women do things but I’m telling you as a woman, the biological impetus behind dating in most women’s heads: make a man prove himself capable of supporting u and your offspring because as a female you traditionally will have to do much more than him to keep the relationship afloat. That includes the cooking, cleaning, childcare, caring for family and the emotional/mental work, AND possibly still having to work.
Those are still the rules of dating if men and women are pursuing relationships that attend to traditional roles. Even in 2021.
And many women even while making their own money, STILL want that from men because many men in 2021 only want to contribute 50/50 to finances, but aren’t picking up the slack in the homes either. So they want the benefits of a traditional wive, plus the benefits of a financially modern woman.
But all of this is irrelevant and off topic.
Original topic is whether primary breadwinners feel they can cheat and many do IMO.
